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Something in the engine.....
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:05 am
by stipro
I am at the point of tearing down the motor that going into my rally car. When I got to the part where I flipped the motor over on the stand, I heard something loose in the oil pan. "Weird" I thought, and carried on. When I pulled the oil pan off, something fell back into the motor, underneath the baffle. Low and behold it was an oil squitter. I pulled the motor down completely and found it belonged to the #4 cylinder. You can see on the back on the piston where it banged around a little, then magically missed all the other rotating parts an fell into the oil pan. I can only imagine its been there awhile. Anyone else ever seen or heard of this before?. Just a thought.
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:20 am
by Splinter
Pretty damn common. My old roommate, RS25, had an EJ22T that had the oil squirter get loose and badly chew up the crank and one of the rods...
Either plug the galleys or put in a new squirter with red loc-tite
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:20 pm
by n2x4
My oil squirters are gonna fall out? How can I prevent that?
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:23 pm
by Splinter
they arent GOING to fall out
they may have, or might fall out...
Prevention? Take the heads off, take the pistons out, take out the oil squirters, put loctite on them, put it all back together
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:41 pm
by n2x4
That sucks. I guess there isn't anything I can do about it besides rebuild the motor. I've never heard of this before either.
Anyone have a scan of how the oil squirters go in?
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:53 pm
by Splinter
they just screw in at the base of the cylinder wall
Bottom left
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 4:37 pm
by n2x4
Hmm, thanks for the pic. This news has got me all bothered. LoL, such as life.
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:49 pm
by IronMonkeyL255
Splinter wrote:...put in a new squirter with red loc-tite
Except you can't buy the squirters individually.
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 1:18 am
by Splinter
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 1:23 am
by IronMonkeyL255
I stand corrected.
Maybe I should have said that you can't buy them individually NEW.
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 1:47 am
by Splinter
When I said new, I meant one that hasnt fallen through a crankshaft
I should have been more clear
A lot of people who build EJ22T/EJ20Gs remove the squirters and plug the galleys for higher oil pressure at high RPM
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 4:20 pm
by n2x4
Bumping an old thread. This same thing has happened to me. Flipped over an engine I was working on and I heard one loose. How bad is it if I don't replace the squirter and just leave it as is? Will my oil pressure be hurting?
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 4:43 pm
by def09
I found mine in the oil pan when I rebuilt it. It might have contributed to the engine feeling old and tired. Im sure it would lower oil pressure a lot. If you are going to raise boost go in and fix it. If you dont want to tear it down make sure your oil pump is sealed up or get a fresh oil pump.
Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 3:07 am
by n2x4
Sealed up as in check to be sure it's not leaking? I'm only nervous about attacking two things on a car - transmission and engine internals, so I'm trying to be cautious.
oil squirter
Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 4:41 pm
by def09
Hmmm I would probably use a magnetic oil pan drain plug till you recover the squirter. Short of tearing the engine in half the only thing you can do is make sure the oil pump can deliver all it can. If it hasnt been done to your knowledge remove the pump and reseal it. This "only" involves removing the timing belt and crank pulley. The oil pump rotor
cover screws on the back side can loosen too so I always threadlock them. I can email you the picture I put together.
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:13 pm
by n2x4
Bumping for an answer on how much my oil pressure might change with a missing oil squirter...