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Please list the following with your post:
1. Year & sedan/wagon
2. AWD or 2WD
3. Auto or manual
4. turbo or naturally aspirated
5. any pertinent mods that may affect your mpg

Do your best to list a "city" value, as well as a "highway" value.

Thanks!

Well, looks like the intelligent people already replied, anybody else have anything worthwhile to read?

Hate to break it to you, but I doubt any magazine is going to report on cars that are 14-20 years old. I'm in the market for a Legacy and am trying to decide which setup would yield the mileage I hope to get. Plus, it's an interesting comparison between the various setups in regards to AT/MT, AWD/2WD, and then how much variation there is between drivers.

there are a billion of these gas mileage threads with most of the information you wanted stated in them

most will be probably in this Engine section, other in the Misc. section i would think

if you're looking for a legacy to achieve the perfect gas mileage, you're going to fail.


AWD has significant drivetrain losses, even moreso with an automatic transmission; and turbo charged cars can get poor mileage depending on your style.

Perhaps you go buy a diesel something-or-other made in the 80's or 90's; those had great mileage usually, or a new hybrid car if you want good mileage.

Not saying the legacy can't get good mileage, it's just a poor platform for one.

First off, you guys are very quick to judge. Shows a lot for your character. Secondly, do ANY of you EVER remember being new to these boards? Think about that for a second. Give the guy a fucking break.

Lastly, scuzzy, where did this guy ever post that he was looking for a car with perfect gas mileage? He simply asked for some simple gas mileage specs for different year legacy's.

Once again, another thread ruined by the douchebagery of interweb pricks.

bla bla bla me me me.

1992 Legacy Turbo Sedan
AWD
Manual
Turbo
intercooler/TD05-16g (although gas mileage didnt change much with these mods)

City: Around 15mpg probably
Highway: Anywhere from 20-23mpg

Edit: I live in the California foothills, and my average day to day mileage is around 20mpg.

Devan, the beauty of this message board was/is the fact that most people value the search feature and they use it. This forum is so different from most others because most of its members are knowledgeable and willing to help.

When you get a bunch of people (new comers or older members alike) posting threads asking for data that they could easily source by using the search button it gets annoying. It gums up the who message board with pointless threads. Which leads to a forum like NASIOC!

BUT, there is no need to be so damn hostile to the guy, he only wanted to ask a simple question.

Imprezive wrote:bla bla bla me me me.

1992 Legacy Turbo Sedan
AWD
Manual
Turbo
intercooler/TD05-16g (although gas mileage didnt change much with these mods)

City: Around 15mpg probably
Highway: Anywhere from 20-23mpg



Devan, the beauty of this message board was/is the fact that most people value the search feature and they use it. This forum is so different from most others because most of its members are knowledgeable and willing to help.

When you get a bunch of people (new comers or older members alike) posting threads asking for data that they could easily source by using the search button it gets annoying. It gums up the who message board with pointless threads. Which leads to a forum like NASIOC!

BUT, there is no need to be so damn hostile to the guy, he only wanted to ask a simple question.

well put.

Thank you, that's exactly what I'm looking for. I'm not new to forums or cars, just to Legacy's. I searched through a lot of threads but didn't find what I was looking for so didn't think it would hurt to open a new thread. There's not really a "general" category so I threw it in engines.

I realize the legacy isn't the optimal car for mileage by any means, but like you guys have found, I think it does what it does very well.... a jack of all trades. I had a 80's VW turbo diesel that got around 35 mpg but it was no good in the cold and was a dog at 68hp. Also, diesel is more costly than gas, which it had not been previously.

The variations you can have on the car (that I asked be listed) all play a significant role in the gas mileage. You can't really compare mileage between a legacy without taking into effect how it's set up. Obviously you'll have more weight and driveline loss with the automatic vs manual, and the same for the AWD vs FWD. Turbos can sometimes help mileage, but often the "fun factor" with a turbo leads to lower mileage. This is partly personal preference, but if gas was free most people would prefer the AWD with the turbo, and the auto/manual choice is up in the air. Since gas isn't free, I'm trying to decide which combo will yield me the mileage I'd like. Yeah, having the AWD and turbo would be sweet, but this will be my "mileage" car as I've already got a 4x4 but it sucks gas. I'm leaning towards FWD wagon, naturally aspirated, with a manual. By all logic this combo should give the best mileage. I just wanted some actual numbers to gauge where that would put a car. I don't know where else one would find this info so that's why I posted on this forum. Yes there are EPA estimate for each year and options, but everybody knows the EPA estimates real world numbers can be far off.

So, hopefully that's justification enough for those who seem to be up in arms that I haven't posted before. No, I don't even own a Legacy, but obviously I will in the near future. Thanks in advance for those who help out... and to the "less-than-friendly" posters... well, every forum has them.

Imprezive wrote:bla bla bla me me me.

1992 Legacy Turbo Sedan
AWD
Manual
Turbo
intercooler/TD05-16g (although gas mileage didnt change much with these mods)

City: Around 15mpg probably
Highway: Anywhere from 20-23mpg



Devan, the beauty of this message board was/is the fact that most people value the search feature and they use it. This forum is so different from most others because most of its members are knowledgeable and willing to help.

When you get a bunch of people (new comers or older members alike) posting threads asking for data that they could easily source by using the search button it gets annoying. It gums up the who message board with pointless threads. Which leads to a forum like NASIOC!

BUT, there is no need to be so damn hostile to the guy, he only wanted to ask a simple question.

1990 Sedan LS 300k miles
AWD
4EAT
N/A
City: 24mpg (i never drive JUST city so thats a guess)
Highway: 30mpg (sometimes just a little more)
Normal 50/50: 26mpg
No mods that would affect gas mileage all the time

i used to drive it in a fairly spirited manor, but the gas required for that is expensive so now i do things like trying to keep it under 3k rpms all day, im also trying to get at least another 50k miles before it needs a rebuild

am I gonna have to say it in every thread? clean the sand out guys
when I was living at ~8000' I would get 31 mostly 2 lane highway commuting, 60-120mph .
now Im at 4900 and get about 26. its been snowing so Im probably under 20 right now.
'91 ej22e w/2.5 bottom end ~11:1, 4.11 5mt, 205/55/16s, pretty even mix of cruising around at 1500rpm and pinnin it.

98LimitedCustomized wrote:Please list the following with your post:
1. Year & sedan/wagon
2. AWD or 2WD
3. Auto or manual
4. turbo or naturally aspirated
5. any pertinent mods that may affect your mpg

Do your best to list a "city" value, as well as a "highway" value.

Thanks!

1. 94 Sedan
2. AWD
3. A/T
4. NA

city 15mpg last time I checked. I typically do 200 per tank, and I'm all city.

1. 92 Wagon
2. FWD
3. A/T
4. NA
5. front trans seal leak
17mpg hwy/city combo I was told. too low because of the trans leak so we "sold" it.


your driving will be the single biggest factor in your MPG. how far do you commute to work? is it highway? side streets? main streets? does the car get up to temperature before you arrive at your destination? do you spend alot of time between start and stops?

Specs for my beater -
1. 91 Indiana built LSI sedan
2. AWD
3. Auto
4. naturally aspirated
5. 02 WRX wheels with dunlop sport a2, torque converter no longer locks

Combined 21.5 mpg average, 60% highway 40% city

1. 94 touring wagon
2. AWD
3. Manual (converted from Auto to 4.11 5MT)
4. Turbo

~18 city / ~25 pure highway.

1. 93 SS
2. AWD
3. Manual
4. TD05-Super 16G

All highway: 22-24 ( If I keep my foot out of it)
City( combined): 19


Pre- Mods
with the VF-11
Highway: up to 28
City: 22



and to add my 2 cents to the rant on this post:

I am 99% sure we did a fuel MPG comparison about 6 months ago, so the post is there. I too, was a bit taken aback by the post, and being one of the first of this user's posts, it would have been much better to also post why you are asking for the info.

We are a smaller board, and this is a good thing and a bad thing.
good, because we do not have the issues of flaming like Nabisco, the negative is when new people come up and post like you did, they often do get flamed for not going to search first.

SO, welcome; but until you get to be known, you might want to be friendly and more informative on the WHY of your post.

Any off-topic, whining replies will be deleted, and the user will be on timeout from the board for 1 week. No exceptions.

98LimitedCustomized, there are quite a few gas mileage threads out there. Please try searching again. If you are unable to find the information you would like, please post with your search criteria.

98LimitedCustomized wrote:Please list the following with your post:
1. Year & sedan/wagon
2. AWD or 2WD
3. Auto or manual
4. turbo or naturally aspirated
5. any pertinent mods that may affect your mpg

Well...

1. 1992 SS
2. AWD
3. 5mt (4.11)
4. Tuerbo
5. My right foot...

I usually get around 21mpg in my city/highway mix...but if I do pure highway I can get 25-26.

98LimitedCustomized wrote:Please list the following with your post:
1. Year & sedan/wagon
2. AWD or 2WD
3. Auto or manual
4. turbo or naturally aspirated
5. any pertinent mods that may affect your mpg

Do your best to list a "city" value, as well as a "highway" value.

Thanks!

1. 91 Sport Sedan
2. AWD
3. Manual
4. Turbo
5. LW Crank Pulley and 11 psi otherwise it's stock

City: ~21 MPG
Highway: ~25 MPG


1. 93 LS
2. AWD
3. Auto
4. N/A
5. LW Crank Pulley

I never payed attention to each with this car, but combined it would be anywhere from 22-27 MPG.

92 t sedan
awd, 185/70s
manual
turbo
tdo4, and a right foot that weights more then the whole car
i see about 12mpg city, i don't drive hwy enough to say.

95 Legacy Wagon AWD 2.2 L (I think)
5 speed
163,000 miles
Mobil 1 10W-30
Roughly 80% highway driving, 26 mpg avg. over last 2 years (120 mile per day commute)

Also, recent emissions check and the numbers were very low - way under the limits for HC and CO.

91 Legacy L sedan 2.2 L N/A
5 spd manual
196k miles
mobil 1 10w-30
no engine mods

i get about 20 to 21 miles avg.
mostly highway driving

i did an experiment because i have 1992 legacy AWD Turbo Automatic (with no mods yet) and i was getting about 300-320 km on 60L (which is a full tank) compared to my previous volkswagen that got 500-600 km on 40L i thought this was rediculous.

so with regular driving i do about 90% city i got about 13mpg

my experiment was to drive keeping the rpms below 2500 (which is when the turbo spins up) or even 2000RPM when possible. i havent finished this experiment but when i got to half a tank i had already driven 270km now i'm at a quarter of a tank and i've driven almost 400km thats about 20 mpg.

so in conclusion the way you drive can influence a subaru alot! it probably made such a big difference for me because of the turbo but in any case a subaru can be made alot more fuel efficient at the cost of fun driving you just have to ask yourself is it worth it?

-Alex

98LimitedCustomized wrote:Please list the following with your post:
1. Year & sedan/wagon
2. AWD or 2WD
3. Auto or manual
4. turbo or naturally aspirated
5. any pertinent mods that may affect your mpg

Do your best to list a "city" value, as well as a "highway" value.

Thanks!

well, just wana your point about that dude
1-1992 / wagon
2- 2WD
3-manual
4-naturally aspirated
5- 399.000 mileage.