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My old disks won't come off - suggestions please

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:52 am
by Gerry
I pounded on the old disks, heated them up, lubed them and those bastards will still not budge, I assume that they are rusted in place but I would like to know if I am missing something.

93 Legacy turbo wagon.

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:16 am
by Legacy777
You need to heat them up more. You'll probably need something more then a propane torch, MAP Gas or an oxy acetelene torch.

I did the brakes & rotors on my old boss's eclipse. Had to use an oxy acetelene torch. I banged on those things for a while before doing that.

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 4:02 am
by 86ruguy
You need to get a BIGGER HAMMER and hit the center area of the rotor.
I have done hundreds of brake jobs and never had to use heat.

Maybe a little WD40 on the hub area but never had to use heat.

BTW...when I say bigger hammer I mean like a mini sledge hammer.

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 4:27 am
by vrg3
First, if you're talking about the rear brakes, make sure the parking brake is off.

Then, get two M8x1.25 bolts. The brake discs have threaded holes in them for exactly this purpose. Thread them into the holes evenly until the discs pop off the hub.

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 4:51 am
by 555BCTurbo
Yeah, I made a puller for doing mine...out of a piece of flatbar and 2 bolts...took all of 5 minutes...and works great

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:30 am
by New92
vrg3 wrote:First, if you're talking about the rear brakes, make sure the parking brake is off.

Then, get two M8x1.25 bolts. The brake discs have threaded holes in them for exactly this purpose. Thread them into the holes evenly until the discs pop off the hub.
+1 - works perfectly.

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:37 pm
by DLC
I used the bolt trick on my rear rotors this summer and it did the trick perfectly.

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:34 am
by Gerry
My rotors don't appear to have these holes, which kind of stinks.

So I guess I am back to heat and hammering.

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:56 am
by evolutionmovement
I can't imagine what Chinese junk (the cheap crap, not the boats) wouldn't have the holes. Spray the hell out of it with some good penetrant - Zep is the best, but PB Blaster is easy to find and let it sit for a day or two, maybe reapplying a few times in between. Thread a lug nut or two on the bolts and whack it as you rotate it from the back. Bearings don't like heat, so be careful going that route.

It's not a bad idea to put some grease on the back of the new rotors to keep them from bonding.

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 7:03 am
by 92ss satinsvoice
New92 wrote:
vrg3 wrote:First, if you're talking about the rear brakes, make sure the parking brake is off.

Then, get two M8x1.25 bolts. The brake discs have threaded holes in them for exactly this purpose. Thread them into the holes evenly until the discs pop off the hub.
+1 - works perfectly.

i did the same thing. much better then risk warping other components with heat or weakening them.

Great news, I got the disk off!!

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:51 am
by Gerry
Purchased

2 x can "3 and 1" Penetrating Lubricant (in the orange can)
1 x 4lb sledge hammer

It dawned on me that if I were turn the wheels that I would have a better vantage point as the car is not jacked up too high. If you feel behind the disk there is a ring of teeth that match up with the hub. I sprayed a lot of the lube in there over a two day period. Then I pounded the perimeter of the disk with the sledge. Then I gave it about 20 good wacks on the back while rotating the disk. Then hammered one side of the front until finally I saw it move.

So I again started rotating the disk while hitting from behind and then it finally came off.

God love the sledge hammer, it makes a man feel mighty.

I am including some before and after pics (they were taken with my phone so the quality isn't all there.)



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This picture is blurry but you can still tell what I am dealing with

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No wonder it gets corroded the hub isn't solid. Water and salt have an open door. I wire brushed the hub down then I coated the perimeter with anti-seize. I shouldn't have the problem again.

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Here is a close up of the corrosion in my disk, it's way worse than what the picture displays

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Here is my new disk and pads, I am a happy man.

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 5:31 am
by 86ruguy
AHHHHH!!!!!!! :D

The spoils of sucess.
:smt026
Looks good!! :smt038

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 6:21 am
by vrg3
Ack, your new discs also lack those threaded holes! Didja put antiseize on the hubs?

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:30 pm
by 86ruguy
QUOTE"I wire brushed the hub down then I coated the perimeter with anti-seize. I shouldn't have the problem again." UN QUOTE

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:37 pm
by vrg3
I'm awesome at reading, and am never distracted by pretty pictures.

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:58 pm
by asc_up
vrg3 wrote:I'm awesome at reading, and am never distracted by pretty pictures.

Hahahaha. I hate it when that happens.

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:49 am
by Gerry
The rear disks have holes.

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:21 am
by subytech
86ruguy wrote:You need to get a BIGGER HAMMER and hit the center area of the rotor.
I have done hundreds of brake jobs and never had to use heat.

Maybe a little WD40 on the hub area but never had to use heat.

BTW...when I say bigger hammer I mean like a mini sledge hammer.
I would only do this as a last result, banging that hard on the hub can do bad things to a wheel bearing.

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:22 am
by 86ruguy
That's funny because I've been doing it for 25 years and never had any trouble

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:43 pm
by subytech
Guess your lucky then I've seen it happen a couple of times, all be it on newer models but still.