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N/A front pipe options?

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 7:17 pm
by internetautomart
any options that don't require bending pipes to match up other than another cat assembly?

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 8:47 pm
by skid542
Not sure I'm following you. Are you talking about the headers?

If so there aren't a lot of options other than stock. You can look at equal length headers, I know Borla makes some, Cobb (I think) and OBX has a set (I own but haven't installed - good quality).

What are you trying to do?

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 8:53 pm
by DLC
Cobb doesn't make headers for NA cars anymore, but they're around in the used market. They and the TWE are Equal-Length. OBX may have made some EL headers also. MRT as well.

Stromung, OBX and Borla make UEL headers that should bolt on, but I'm not sure about how they'd match up to the stock cat section.

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:08 pm
by internetautomart
my front pipe appears to have broken, and I'm not to keen on putting a $300 front pipe into the car, so I was hoping there is another front pipe (maybe w/o a cat) that would swap in to save me some $$$

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:19 pm
by vrg3
Can't you find a used non-turbo exhaust manifold on NASIOC? Wouldn't they all fit as long as they came with the cat?

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:28 pm
by internetautomart
I know this sounds stupid, but from looking at the pipe it looks like it bolts straight to the head ?

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:35 pm
by vrg3
Yes, it does.

My understanding is that on your car, the exhaust manifold and the front catalytic converter are all one unit. It bolts to the heads on one end and to the midpipe (with the rear cat) on the other end.

Newer models have the exhaust manifold separate from the front cat. The exhaust manifold bolts to the heads and to the front cat, and the front cat then bolts to the midpipe with rear cat.

I seem to remember hearing or seeing or somehow otherwise learning that the newer manifold-plus-cat can be bolted in place of the old manifold-including-cat.

Maybe somebody else can verify this. Perhaps someone who owns a non-turbo Legacy.

I do know that an entire BD/BG non-turbo exhaust will bolt up. I believe subyluvr2212 did that swap.

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:12 pm
by internetautomart
turns out my front pipe is fine, and my muffler are fine
everything in between though :-\
anyone know of a non-catted midpipe that is a direct bolt in?

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:15 pm
by DLC
I doubt you can buy one from anywhere.

It should be really easy to have built at a muffler shop.

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:27 pm
by internetautomart
DLC wrote:I doubt you can buy one from anywhere.

It should be really easy to have built at a muffler shop.
they want $165 :(
if I had the time I'd fabricate up the pipe myself, but I need to give back the car I'm driving on sunday.

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:34 pm
by DLC
Is there only one shop around? That seems very high for such a job.

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:01 pm
by internetautomart
nah, there are several.
I think the issue falls to the fact that there is a converter in the pipe.
I'll talk to another guy tomorrow about it.