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EJ20G -92, valve lifters (HLA) click, some questions.

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:24 pm
by petterekman
Hi there.
First off, sorry for creating a new thread on the subject, but hear me out:

A while ago, my Legacy started clicking from the heads. Assumed it was the lifters, and after reading on this forum I reached the conclusion that it was the HLA's that were acting up.
Because of the fact that it is quite a big operation on the EJ20G, and the fact that it leaks a bit of oil, I decided to pull the engine.

Now, I've searched the forums and read a bunch of the threads on the subject, but it rarely touches on the EJ20, so that's why I started a new thread.
The click from my heads was intermittent. It was rough when cold (in winter), and got alot better when the engine warmed up, going away and coming back when driving.
I tried putting in some HLA-cleaning additive and draining the oil plus changing filter, twice, to no avail.

Questions I have:

1. How do I pull the HLA's from the heads? I've read that you should just pull on them with pliers, but I've tried and they didn't come. Now I'm wondering if the EJ20Gs are different?

2. Can I check the function of the HLA's when removed from the heads? Can I clean them in some way and put them back in, or will I have to replace them? How do I then know which ones to change, don't know which ones were clicking, so is it possible to spot them?

3. Finally, a question that doesn't have anything to do with the lifters but to save time and space, I'll ask here:
Which seals can you change without splitting the entire engine?
Don't have the time to split the engine, but would still want to change as many seals as possible.

Thank you for your time,

Petter

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 1:58 am
by Arctic Assassian
You shouldn't have to split the block to change any seals.

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 5:01 am
by cjc
what i would recomend is down loading the factory service manual, i beleive there is a copy posted on this sight, if not rs liberty site has it posted.

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 9:20 am
by AWD_addict
Anybody know which USDM replacement parts (valve seals, retainers, etc.) would work in 20G heads?
There are some good 20G part number threads, but parts from other markets can be hard to get.

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 4:22 pm
by petterekman
cjc wrote:what i would recomend is down loading the factory service manual, i beleive there is a copy posted on this sight, if not rs liberty site has it posted.
Could anyone point me in the right directions or give me a direct link?
Haven't found a factory service manual during the 2 years I've owned my car. Perhaps I'm just blind...

Anyone else have any ideas about the HLA's?

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 4:29 pm
by Arctic Assassian
I hate hla's. I was told to avoid at all costs, and go for bucket heads.

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 4:59 pm
by Legacy777
US ones
http://bbs.legacycentral.org/viewtopic. ... sc&start=0

I know there's one posted for the 1992 manual for overseas versions....but not sure where that is right now.

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 2:17 am
by Arctic Assassian
hes asking for an ej20g FSM. Those just don't exist over here.

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 3:06 am
by PhyrraM

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:44 pm
by Legacy777
That's what I was looking for.