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MAF Swap

Post by smh0101 »

So I was thinking about selling my FWD NA Legacy...

It has the Jecs Plastic MAF

Is it possible to swap my metal low-flow one with the other one for future stuff... Or will the one out of my SS not work properly in the NA car?
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Post by 555BCTurbo »

The Hitachi MAF won't jive with the JECS ecu...

Honestly...I scored a plastic MAF at the junkyard for $10...they ain't hard to come by...
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Post by smh0101 »

well, i just figured since i had one...
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Post by PhyrraM »

The JECS will lean the engine in a SS/TW unless you've got some type of EM. I would just sell the car as it is.

Then keep your eye out for a good deal on a JECS to 'put on the shelf'. That way when your upgrades get to the point of engine management, you've already got it.
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Post by smh0101 »

Okay, cool, good to know before I did it!
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94 Legacy Ti Wagon (5mt ej22e)
91 rhd Legacy GT Wagon (factory 5mt, ej20g)
93 rhd Legacy GT type S2 Sedan (4eat, ej20g)
91 rhd Legacy Ti Type S 1.8
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Post by smh0101 »

If used in conjunction with 440cc grey top injectors would that help with the leaning out without EM... I thought they make it run a tad rich?
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94 Legacy Ti Wagon (5mt ej22e)
91 rhd Legacy GT Wagon (factory 5mt, ej20g)
93 rhd Legacy GT type S2 Sedan (4eat, ej20g)
91 rhd Legacy Ti Type S 1.8
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Post by smh0101 »

And thus allow you to run more boost safely?
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94 Legacy Ti Wagon (5mt ej22e)
91 rhd Legacy GT Wagon (factory 5mt, ej20g)
93 rhd Legacy GT type S2 Sedan (4eat, ej20g)
91 rhd Legacy Ti Type S 1.8
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08 300 SRT8
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Post by 555BCTurbo »

smh0101 wrote:If used in conjunction with 440cc grey top injectors would that help with the leaning out without EM... I thought they make it run a tad rich?
No...because the leanness would be due to ecu parameters...
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Post by PhyrraM »

That combo will be better. Can't say for certain untill it gets tried, but I would think it's safe.

Widebands are cheap these days. They can be had all day long @ $200 on Ebay. Insurance.

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Post by BXSS »

+1 on the plastic MAF /440 injector combo being something that someone may want to test out.
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Post by smh0101 »

Hmm... After I get my IC done I may buy a wideband, 440s and use or get a different plastic MAF... If it doesnt work decent I'll just swap on the old stuff and wait until I get some EM.
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94 Legacy Turbo (550 Robtune/ej20h v2 Sti RA drivetrain)
94 Legacy Ti Wagon (5mt ej22e)
91 rhd Legacy GT Wagon (factory 5mt, ej20g)
93 rhd Legacy GT type S2 Sedan (4eat, ej20g)
91 rhd Legacy Ti Type S 1.8
03 Lincoln LS V8 Sport
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Post by TwinTurbine »

I know this is an old post but it's something I've tried over the winter when i was bored the plastic one will run just fine, if you left you boost levels stock.

However, i prefer the aluminum one because you can modify it so that you can richen your injectors and run higher boost levels. The plastic one can't be modified.

We collect the aluminum MAF's for the ability to be drilled out where the hot wire is. This should not be attempted with your only MAF

Mine are now sitting around because i don't use a MAF anymore but run a 3Bar map sensor. Ah...Gotta love Motec
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Post by 93Leg-c »

Can you post exactly how you modify the aluminum MAF and what kind of readings you get?
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Post by TwinTurbine »

I can, but even my best friend I will not give this info to. My testing is not totally complete. If I find something definate next season I will post it. Funny enough I'm going to use his car for testing, Shh don't tell him :-D Beacuse I don't run a MAF sensor anymore his car is the perfect candidate.
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