legacycentral bbs

Here is a thread for posting the different/larger wheel and tire combinations you've had and how they fit. Things like wheel size, offset, camber, and suspension modifications are all generally relevant and should be included. So I'll start:

Car: 1993 L AWD

Combo 1 - WRX wheels and tires
Wheel size: 16x6.5
Offset: +55
Tire: 205/55-16 Bridgestone RE-92
Suspension: Stock
Rubbing: None, but it was really close to the rear spring perches.
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Combo 2 - WRX wheels
Same as above, but with 04 sti suspension. Until I added negative camber with some aftermarket bolts, the tires rubbed slightly on the rear fenders.
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Combo 3 - 00-01 2.5RS wheels
Wheel Size: 16x7
Offset: +53
Tire: 225/50-16 Bridgestone RE750
Suspension: stock 04 sti
Alignment: about 1.5 degrees negative camber all around
Rubbing: YES. On hard cornering the tires would rub on the rear fenders. It was mostly on the tab where the bolt is to connect the rear bumper to the quarter panel. A small amount of "rolling" with a prybar took care of it.
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Combo 4 - RS wheels
I put some new tires on the RS wheels. Same size, but Falken ZE-912s which were slightly narrower than the RE750s so there's more room.

I also noticed that a lot of compression in a sharp turn would cause the fronts to catch the front fenders. There isn't much room on the inside either. Rear tires are very close to the struts, and there are some slight rub marks on the fender liners from the front inside of the tire.
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A few weeks ago I rolled the crap out of all four fenders with an actual fender roller. With a little less offset I expect to be able to fit 235s easily.

Combo 1 - 2003 WRX wheels + studded winters
Wheel Size: 16x6.5
Offset +55
Tire: Gislaved Nord-Frost 5 205/55 (comes studded)
Suspension: Ver VI STi struts and hats, STi Pink lowering springs
Rubbing: none at all but the rear clearance is very tight to fender and perch

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Combo 2 - 2008 Forester 17s + Ver VII STi Takeoffs
Wheel Size: 17x7
Offset: +48
Tire: Bridgestone Potenza RE-070 225/45
Suspension: Ver VI STi struts and hats, STi Pink lowering springs
Rubbing: definately had to bang the rear quarterpanel wheel-wells out to accomodate, front is fine.
***only easy street driving so far, will let you know about high speed corners.....

Combo 1 - WRX wheels
Wheel size: 16x6.5
Offset: +55
Tire: 215/45-16 Falken Azenis rt-615
Suspension: front=monroe strut rear=Stock
Rubbing: None, that I am aware of.

Combo 1 - WRX wheels
Wheel size: 16x6.5
Offset: +55
Tire: 205/55-16 Continental ContiExtremeContact
Suspension: AGX
Rubbing: Rubbed on spring perch. Fixed it with a sledge hammer.

Combo 1 - BBS RX
Wheel size: 16x7
Offset: +40
Tire: 205/50/ZR16 Bravius Barum
Suspension: Tein HA coilovers from a GC8 on full low, maxed negative camber adjustment on coilover bodies themselves.
Rubbing: Yes. But only when slammed. Stock ride height was fine. Fixed with fender rolling tool/fender pull.

Combo 1 - JDM BG5 factory wheels
Wheel size: 17x7
Offset: +53
Tire: 215/45/17 Toyo Proxes 4
Suspension: Tanabe Sustec Pro adjustable coilovers (~3 inch drop)
Rubbing: Absolutely none.

Combo 1: RS wheels
Wheel size: 16x7
Offset: +53
Tyre: Bridgestone Potenza RE010 ->205/50/16
Suspension: stock
Alignment: stock
Rubbing: NO

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Combo 2: WRX STI MY02 wheels
Wheel size: 17x7.5
Offset: +53
Tyre: Bridgestone Potenza RE050 ->215/45/17
Suspension: stock and BC Racing (stock height and lowered 3-4" )
Alignment: stock
Rubbing: Yes, rolling rear fenders works. No rubbing at the back anymore. Front only rubs during hard cornering.

could you please post the tire size? It would be a lot more helpful.

Combo 1: '02 WRX wheels
Wheel size: 16x6.5"
Offset: +55
Tyre: 205/55-16 Pirelli P-Zero Nero M+S
Suspension: KYB GR-2 struts, H&R springs
Alignment: stock specifications
Rubbing: slight rubbing at full lock

Vehicle: 1991 Legacy Sport Sedan.

All Season rubber:
Wheels: 1998 2.5RS five spoke.
Wheel size: 16x7
Offset: + 53, I think.
Tire: Yokohama Avid A4S 225/50/16
Suspension: STi v. 7 struts & springs, 20mm front sway, 22mm rear sway.
Alignment: Front -1.3 degrees. Camber bolts in the rear set to -0.9 degree.
Clearance: No rubbing. Rear inner side wall is EXTREMELY close to the strut body.

Summer rubber:
Wheels: 2000 2.5RS six spoke.
Wheel size: 16x7
Offset: + 53, I think.
Tire: Falken 451 205/50/16
Suspension: STi v. 7 struts & springs, 20mm front sway, 22mm rear sway.
Alignment: Front -1.3 degrees. Camber bolts in the rear set to -0.9 degree.
Clearance: No rubbing. Rear inner side wall is very close to the strut body.

Unfortunately this is mostly data for sports tires with sports suspension. I've just got some 215/60R16 snow tires on steel wheels from a Subaru Forester that I'd like to use this winter on my stock suspension. Anyone know if this will work? Well, I'll let you know what happens either way.

That's about 8% taller than the standard size. I suspect the tires will scrape the bottom of the spring perches. Can anyone offer any insight?

Found a good site: http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

The new tires are 1 inch larger in radius, so I should be able to measure vertical clearance. They're 30mm (1 & 3/16ths an inch) wider, so they might be quite prone to rub, I'll have to try them on soon, it's about time now.

Alright, keep us posted. I'm also thinking of running 205/70-15 winter tires on my stock height Legacy Turbo. I suspect I'll have to roll the fenders a bit.

That's only a tenth of an inch bigger in diameter, so the fitment comparison of our tires in that dimension is so close that they could be the same if your tires were worn a bit.

It's looking good (though close!), but I have to road test (see below).

Wheels: Steel from a Forester (stock wheels are steel)
Wheel size: 16x6.5
Offset: +55 (I think, there was "EJ55" stamped on the wheel after the rim size)
Tire: 215/60R16 Bridgestone Blizzak WS-50 (stock tires are the stock 185/70 R14 size)
Wheel/Tire Assembly Weight: 41.0 lbs (stock size rubber on steel was 35.5 lbs)
Suspension: Stock
Alignment: Stock
Rubbing: There's about 3 mm between the tire and rear spring perch on the strut, if the tires weren't worn I think it would rub just a hair. On the inside of the front there's no more than 2mm between the tire sidewall and strut.

Road Test: Tire pressure set to 32 psi all around (I run 35 psi all around in my stock tires). There was only rubbing on the front of the front-left wheel-well liner, which I think can be corrected. I didn't notice any other rubbing even in cornering. The car feels like an SUV now, but still handles well. Bumps are much more pronounced, but are not harsh and rather bouncy. Braking takes much more force, this bothered me, but was expected. Nothing off on the highway, except the speedometer..

EDIT: I'm pretty sure this is the max size that will fit on a stock first generation legacy, check out the clearance pictures:

Rear clearance; this is such a close shot it's hard to tell that the gap is only 3mm:

Front clearance; the gap is no more than 2mm:


UGLY:


--But effective; one full inch more ground clearance:

This is good info. Everyone be sure to list the car since there are differences between FWD and AWD, suspension components and whatnot.

I'm hopefully picking up a set of WRX wheels 16x6.5 soon for my AWD wagon and want to make sure I get tires that won't rub. The X factor on this car is that it was formally pneumatic susp, so the conversion kit may have different perches than stock. I'll investigate.... might go with 205/50's just to be safe in that regard, would hate to waste the loot on buying tires, paying mounting/balance etc and then have to get rid of them

jamal wrote:could you please post the tire size? It would be a lot more helpful.

Sorry, I'm a bit late, but I added the tyre size in my original post

1990 Legacy LS FWD NA

Combo 1= 2005 Legacy GT rims, 5X100, 17X7
Tire= Kumho Ecsta AST 215/45-17
Offset=55
Suspension= stock springs, upgrading to WRX soon. KYB struts all around
Clearence= front good. rear bad, had to buy 15mm spacers, now rub the fender. plan on doing some rolling today.

Wheel size: 17x7 AMP
Offset: +42
Tire: 225/45/17 cont contact pro
Suspension: Stock
Rubbing: spring perch fine, lots of room, rolled rears only with a baseball bat. it rubbed when loaded heavy or on big bumps, but that is on a tired all original suspension,

alighnment: stock


combo 2.... soon to come
size: 16 by 6.5 wrx 04
offset: 55
tire: Hankook k106 205/16/50
suspension and alighnment stock
no rubbing anywhere, no rolling the fenders

Sorry to interrupt, but your car looks great! Muffler hangs a bit low.

ha ha, thanks, thats fixed and now has a 4" titanium tip.

heres a calculator, jamal, maybe you could put this link in you post at the top
http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp

this will read tire size as well, click on tires

Bookmarked. Very nice, let me add this wheel and tire size calculator as well (it gives lots of stats):

http://www.rims-n-tires.com/rt_specs.jsp?showAd=-1

Car: 1993 turbo AWD

Wheels: 2001 Mustang GT
Wheel size: 15x7
Offset: +24 (25mm adapters and a 8mm spacer brings the offset to -10)
Tire: 205/50/15 Falken Azenis
Suspension: Jic coilovers, sti rear bar, lateral and trailing arms
Alignment: -3.5 front and - 2.5 rear
Rubbing: Rears only on hard corners with a bump
Fenders Rolled: Front and rear about 30mm wider

Combo 1:
02 WRX Wheels
94 Leg Wagon AWD
Brand new Nexen N5000 tires 205/55/16
Stock Alignment
Very slight rubbing at full lock, will probably go away with wear on tires

91 Legacy Sedan FWD

04 WRX Wheels
65% life Fuzion HRi 205/55R16
BONE Stock suspension
5mm spacers in the rear to prevent rubbing on the spring perch
rubbing in rear on bumps/hard turns.

no rubbing in front.

swapping to stock STi springs/perches w/92 and newer rear struts soon to remove need for spacers