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Sooo... I went for a drive, following my moms husband on a motor cycle, its a dual sport so we went up some gravel roads, and when we were comming back down... especially once we hit the pavement...

I noticed..........









































I HAD ALMOST NO BRAKES!!!!

Holy shit... The had some for the first inch of pedal travel, once I got past that they were toast, they didnt really do much... at all...

So i got out after pulling into a long drive way, due to passing a state trooper at 80 in a 45, and got out...

Um yeah, smelt them, then looked, and they were smoking, pretty damn bad...

So i let them sit for awhile before leaving again and they still dont feel right. I'm just gonna live with them for awhile before I replace them with WRX brakes...

So yeah, that was interesting... Lets not do that again....

your moms husband? you mean your dad or step-dad?

you must have been riding them pretty hard to have them smoking, the only time ive ever seen it happen is when our 88 Rangers f/l caliper froze on the way home.

lol... were he my dad I would have said dad... I suppose (even though i hate refering to ANYONE as that...) he is my STEP-dad... aka moms hubby... lol


And I suppose I was riding them hard!!! lol

you shouldn't do that!!!! LOL

BTW...you could get by with some upgraded pads for a while. just make sure you ruff-up the pad surface on the rotors.

Im betting on your pads being worn out. I heard it is possible for the pad material to slip off, maybe that is what happened. If I were you, I would grab some cheap pads for now.

Hmmm... I'm thinkin.......... 4 Pots......

W/ Brembo Rotors and EBC reds...

Hopefully that will help the fade...

I'm gonna try and figure what pads chry 300c srt8s use... because after 6-7 full 90-0 stops... No fade, and no smoke... (we were breaking in the new brakes... kickass brembos if I do say so).

ericem wrote:Im betting on your pads being worn out. I heard it is possible for the pad material to slip off, maybe that is what happened. If I were you, I would grab some cheap pads for now.

The've been in use for only 6 months...

I probably better pull the wheels off and look at them, just in case.

smh0101 wrote: EBC reds...

Don't run competition pads on your daily driver...

Unless you like coming into a corner with cold brakes and not stopping

Oh, huh, I thought the reds were fine for DD... and the Yellows were the comp ones?

*Is checking*

Do you have better fluid and lines yet?

meh. They're all fairly streetable. I'm going with Porterfield R4s or Hawk HP+ for my next set. I'd like the ferodo ds2500s but they're way more expensive. You don't really have to worry until you get into real race pads.

And yeah make sure you do a full fluid flush.

I've got the EBC reds on the impreza....they're fine for daily driver.

I'd probably go with yellows if I had to do it over again.

I'm running EBC yellows and they work great. Cold stops and after running the twisties for a while. I'm very pleased.

My suggestion to you though Smh, change out your fluid. The excessive pedal travel is not related to overheating the pads themselves. I suspect you boiled your old fluid and now have air in the system.

I've had my brakes smoking on my old car before, it's pretty amazing.

And smells terrible.

skid542 wrote:I'm running EBC yellows and they work great. Cold stops and after running the twisties for a while. I'm very pleased.

My suggestion to you though Smh, change out your fluid. The excessive pedal travel is not related to overheating the pads themselves. I suspect you boiled your old fluid and now have air in the system.

I've had my brakes smoking on my old car before, it's pretty amazing.

It wasnt necessarily excessive travel, I was pushing as hard as I could and not stopping, but I'll do that when i change out the brakes.

I am wondering though...

Is it possible that I "de-warped" them by getting them so hot?

Suddenly, since that and letting them cool, they seem not only fine, but arent vibrating anymore, they were slightly warped before...

Stainless lines and good racing fluid does wonders. Those pads are fine on the street. I love my WRX calipers, compared to stock.

ha ha i just read the new C&D article on this.
reminded me a bit

your brake fluid itself probably got reeeeealy hot, lol maybe boiling.

i'd let er' sit and maybe put brake juice in that can handle more heat.

Perhaps the vibration was from uneven wear on the pads themselves and you burnt off the problem since it's not likely your brakes would work like a lathe and fix the rotor.

+1 for EBC yellows, they don't squeak and grab even when they are frozen

a perfect Daily Driving Performance pad to match the spirit of the SS

smh0101 wrote:I am wondering though...

Is it possible that I "de-warped" them by getting them so hot?

Suddenly, since that and letting them cool, they seem not only fine, but arent vibrating anymore, they were slightly warped before...

Have you read stoptech's whitepaper on "warped rotors"?

http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/wp_wa ... disk.shtml


What Steve mentioned is probably what you experienced, and by doing some "hard" braking you wore the uneven deposits off.

That's one of the downsides from performance pads in street application. They just don't get "warmed up" often enough, and start leaving uneven deposits on the rotor which can cause brake shudder.

My guess... thats exactly what happened!

And thats a good read thanks!