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This movie is perfect.

I had high hopes and they were exceeded. That doesn't happen very often.

It ought to be nominated for Best Picture and Heath has Best Actor all wrapped up in my books.

The writing is really tight and I loved the script. It's such a challenge to write about heroes in the context of a gritty reality with desperate consequences. Even Tim Burton's 'Batman' - dark as it was - seems hokey b/c of it's simplicity when compared to Christopher Nolan's. He had some great support here and tied many heavy themes together.

In an era deprived of originality and the guts to tell a real story this movie delivered. Even with a PG rating (edied here - at first I thought it was R somehow....) it sits heavy because it successfully supercedes the black and white perspective, acknowledging the complexity of the desperate situation we create for ourselves as a society.

Are we inherently evil. Is there such thing as good? Is order just a facade? Is anything worth fighting for?

Holy crap! Batman just showed up.

I agree.

It's a shame that Heath Ledger won't be around to receive all of this praise. I truly believe this was his most brilliant performance yet. I nearly shed a tear during the credits. It's hard to imagine what he may have been going through around the time of his death.

I thought it's rated PG-13.

The social questions the movie raises are really penetrating. I really wonder if there's such a thing as a truly well-natured person. We can help ladies across the street all we want, but is it because we believe they deserve to be helped, or are we doing it for the "thanks" or the acknowledgment? Doesn't the latter seem a little selfish?

It's really sad to think about that kind of stuff, especially in an inebriated state such as mine. The scene involving the two ships really shed some hope on the situation, but what would happen in reality?

Really, though, I have to say that this movie sits at or near the top of my list of favorites. I was never a fan of comic-related movies, but this one passes.

I especially loved how the opening wasn't just another credit reel. It got straight to the point.

Maggie Gyllenhall was magnificent, as usual.

Whoaaaa. I am OUT TO LUNCH on the rating. It's PG! Eff. I don't even know what I was thinking about.....

I feel shame, *goes to edit first post*

I though Maggie Gyllenhall was the weakest link in th emovie. Not because she isn't a great actor and not because I wanted Holmes back. I just think it was a specifically poor cast and that she didn't fit the part.

Yeah it's that classic Friends question: is there such a thing as a selfless good deed.

Nope.

But that is the beautiful secret. We spend so much time being truly self centered and trying to please ourselves. Maybe the best way to be joyful is to focus more on helping others.

I really think the only thing that truly makes me happy is helping other people. But I rarely do it for pure selfless reasons.

You could say helping others because it makes you happy is pretty self centered even. lol

Batman is hardly a selfless hero, though. The fact that his morals are so strong embodies that. You have to be willing to overstep your own bounds to help others. You're just as much at fault for the deaths of the people around you when you *don't* do anything about it, as when you're the one doing the killing.

"If you're not helping solve the problem, you're part of the problem" holds true in that light.

Fkyx wrote:We can help ladies across the street all we want, but is it because we believe they deserve to be helped, or are we doing it for the "thanks" or the acknowledgment?

Intent is irrelevent. Only the action carries meaning.

I haven't seen the film yet, but I now think that I want to.