Effective and simple turbo water tank repair.
Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 10:41 pm
We are all familiar with the way the nipples on the stock plastic water tank's of the 22T's disintegrate over time. Looking at them carefully it's apparent that the plastic (which is really more of a composite material embedded with some kind of fiber) has broken down and become soft - allowing the nipples to snap off easily.
At some point in the past the large upper nipple to the turbo on the back of my water tank was repaired using JB weld or some similar product. The individual appears to have tried to do a good job but the JB weld cracked and began to weep within a couple thousand miles of me putting the car on the road.
I then acquired another used tank from a member here but after installation the upper nipple cracked on it's own after a few days of driving because it too was soft from being 15 years old. This was becoming intolerable and was going to be expensive if I had to buy a new one at $100. Further I will be installing an '07 TMIC and I haven't even decided I want to keep the plastic style tank so buying a new one would be a waste of money if I then decided to go with a metal tank later anyway.
I put the weeping JB welded tank back in to drive the car and took a look around at my options for replacing or repairing the nipples. I considered a few options but after cutting the existing nipples off flush and looking at the dimensions I had to work with I noticed that the body of the tank itself is actually quite thick - around 1/4" where the nipples attach. The thicker material of the body did not exhibit any of the signs that the nipples did of being soft. The holes are sufficiently small to be easily drilled and tapped to 1/4" NPT so I went in search of nipples that would fit. It turns out that the hoses are 13mm ID which is basically 1/2" so I just needed 1/2" x 1/4" NPT hose barbs to make new nipples. The only question left was how to properly seal them. They would likely seal on their own due to the body being plastic but I didn't want to thread them in extremely tight and potentially break the plastic tank wall as the NPT threads are tapered. I had a few options for "goop" that would probably do the job but with the different expansion rates of the plastic and the brass I would have to use a goop that doesn't harden and I didn't like the implications of using a non-hardening paste around coolant. I decided on a true-seal Teflon ring seal to seal tightly against the body of the tank. This provides a mechanical seal for the threads, allows them to not be extremely tight, and has no pipe goop to react with the coolant.
The install is very simple. You cut the plastic nipples off flush, drill the holes to 7/16", tap them to 1/4" NPT, and install the hose barbs and true-seal's. On the bottom hole a standard NPT tap doesn't go in very far but it wasn't a problem for me. If it became a problem I was going to use a bottoming tap to get farther up on the threads but I have been running this tank now every day for three weeks and not a single drop or weep of coolant to be seen. With it only being 13 psi and these barbs/threads easily capable of 200 psi I don't see there being any issue with it ever.
I'm now thinking I'll keep the plastic tank and move it rather that replace it with a metal version. I have a spot in mind where the narrowness of the plastic tank will work to my advantage anyway.
GD
At some point in the past the large upper nipple to the turbo on the back of my water tank was repaired using JB weld or some similar product. The individual appears to have tried to do a good job but the JB weld cracked and began to weep within a couple thousand miles of me putting the car on the road.
I then acquired another used tank from a member here but after installation the upper nipple cracked on it's own after a few days of driving because it too was soft from being 15 years old. This was becoming intolerable and was going to be expensive if I had to buy a new one at $100. Further I will be installing an '07 TMIC and I haven't even decided I want to keep the plastic style tank so buying a new one would be a waste of money if I then decided to go with a metal tank later anyway.
I put the weeping JB welded tank back in to drive the car and took a look around at my options for replacing or repairing the nipples. I considered a few options but after cutting the existing nipples off flush and looking at the dimensions I had to work with I noticed that the body of the tank itself is actually quite thick - around 1/4" where the nipples attach. The thicker material of the body did not exhibit any of the signs that the nipples did of being soft. The holes are sufficiently small to be easily drilled and tapped to 1/4" NPT so I went in search of nipples that would fit. It turns out that the hoses are 13mm ID which is basically 1/2" so I just needed 1/2" x 1/4" NPT hose barbs to make new nipples. The only question left was how to properly seal them. They would likely seal on their own due to the body being plastic but I didn't want to thread them in extremely tight and potentially break the plastic tank wall as the NPT threads are tapered. I had a few options for "goop" that would probably do the job but with the different expansion rates of the plastic and the brass I would have to use a goop that doesn't harden and I didn't like the implications of using a non-hardening paste around coolant. I decided on a true-seal Teflon ring seal to seal tightly against the body of the tank. This provides a mechanical seal for the threads, allows them to not be extremely tight, and has no pipe goop to react with the coolant.
The install is very simple. You cut the plastic nipples off flush, drill the holes to 7/16", tap them to 1/4" NPT, and install the hose barbs and true-seal's. On the bottom hole a standard NPT tap doesn't go in very far but it wasn't a problem for me. If it became a problem I was going to use a bottoming tap to get farther up on the threads but I have been running this tank now every day for three weeks and not a single drop or weep of coolant to be seen. With it only being 13 psi and these barbs/threads easily capable of 200 psi I don't see there being any issue with it ever.
I'm now thinking I'll keep the plastic tank and move it rather that replace it with a metal version. I have a spot in mind where the narrowness of the plastic tank will work to my advantage anyway.
GD