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Cheap(er) USB Cable for Select Monitor

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 5:32 am
by wtdash
The cable described below is based on access to cheap/free cables available in either your humble abode or @ the local Goodwill/thrift store. I may be assuming (!) a lot (and maybe I'm just a packrat), but including the USB adapter, total cost should be under $30. It doesn't include the cost of any software.

Parts list:
- USB to RS232 TTL-based FTDI chip connector
- CD-Rom audio cable – one 4-wire or two 3-wire
- 5-volt car charger

So, with the mods I've put on my car I wanted to use the Select Monitor connector to see what was going on.
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Initially I used VRG3's ECU scan tool by buying the Metra 70-1780 speaker connector @ a local car audio store for about $20 (not required-see below), and buying a parallel/printer cable @ the local thrift store for $1 (it was 1/2 price day :-) ).

This allowed me to see parameters one @ a time with VRG3's DOS based software tool.

I then found this SITE built by Phil Skuse/b3lha for the SVX/Alcyone. Most of this software required a USB/Serial connection, which meant my printer cable wouldn't cut it.

Based on Phil's site I found a USB adapter based on the FTDI chip on Ebay for about $15 shipped. Called a USB to RS232 Signal Module Based TTL Connector FT232BL:

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This adapter is required as it supports the TTL to RS232 conversion needed to connect to the Select Monitor. A standard USB-to-Serial cable can't read the signal. (Please read Phil's site to clarify, if needed.)

I then grabbed two 3-wire CD-Rom audio cables (using 2 wires from each) from my PC parts collection like these :
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To use the USB adapter I needed a 5-volt source. The easiest source I could think of was a car charger that plugs into the cigarette lighter. I got lucky as I had a 4.5v rated charger on hand that actually put out 5v.

I took the Transmit and Receive from the Metra connector and connected them to 2 of the connectors on the CD-rom cable, and then took the power and ground from the car charger and hooked them to the other 2 connectors on the CD-rom cable. This connected to the USB adapter's 4-plug connector. The Metra connector is not needed. It wouldn't be too tough to just tap into the Transmit and Receive wires on the Select Monitor. Please see VRG3's document on wiring HERE.

I then used a USB cable to connect to my laptop, installed the USB/Serial adapter's software...and lo and behold it worked!

Here are some pics (function over form):
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 1:17 am
by b3lha
Good work.

A couple of questions:

1) Does it really need an external charger? Some of the FTDI modules can draw their 5v power from the USB cable.

2) I presume you also connected to ground on the Metra connector, not just Rx and Tx?

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 3:52 am
by log1call
The ftdc chip is powered off the usb port. All you need is the chip, or a cable with the chip in it, the rx and tx wires and an earth to the car.

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 3:38 pm
by wtdash
b3lha wrote:Good work.

A couple of questions:

1) Does it really need an external charger? Some of the FTDI modules can draw their 5v power from the USB cable.
It shows it in this diagram for the chip I bought:
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I initially tried it by just connecting to the ground next to the 5v pin (VCC), and the PC didn't 'see' the USB-to-Serial adapter.

I connected my 5v source and it started to work.
b3lha wrote:2) I presume you also connected to ground on the Metra connector, not just Rx and Tx?
I did not. It worked w/out it. According to Mike @ Revtronix (ECU chip) it's not needed.