This clutch, that clutch?

race_to_live · Post by **race_to_live** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 4:55 am

I need to get a clutch for the 91, the question, is what clutches fit the leggy? I know 91-94, but do the 02-05 wrx clutchs fit?

And what are the thoughts on the brands of clutches and flywheels?
Such as...
ACT
Fidanza
Clutch Masters
Exedy

n2x4 · Post by **n2x4** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:29 pm

race_to_live wrote:do the 02-05 wrx clutchs fit?

The WRX clutch works fine, though the clutch disk is apparently a few mm larger than the Legacy disk.

In my experience (and in many others) this is a non issue. I've yet to hear of any problems as a result of running the WRX clutch. I've got just about 40K miles on mine without the hint of an issue.

I just purchased an Exedy OEM clutch kit off of ebay for like $140.

kimokalihi · Post by **kimokalihi** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 3:03 pm

That's what I did. Bought the 91 turbo exedy clutch kit off ebay for probably about $140 and bolted that up to a clutchmasters lightweight WRX flywheel and put that on my EJ20G motor.

I haven't ran it yet though.

gijonas · Post by **gijonas** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 4:57 pm

Yeah wrx stuff is the way to go.Its a debate but i wouldnt bother with anything other than stock flywheel though if that is something you were thinking about.Unless its stock wrx which is what i used.

Mattheww044 · Post by **Mattheww044** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 5:33 pm

my old 91 had a WRX tranny with an exedy stage 1 clutch and it was great. For daily driving, and launching. Just depending on what your plans are for the car I would build around that. It's funny when people think they need a stage 3 clutch for a DSM with a boost controller.

Post by **Legacy777** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 7:05 pm

I'd definitely recommend stock flywheel. A LW flywheel really affects the drivability of the car for daily driving. Driving smooth takes A LOT more effort.

biggreen96 · Post by **biggreen96** » Sat Oct 24, 2009 2:17 am

Just takes a bit getting used to. I will be putting a light flywheel into every car I ever have.

The day I bought this wagon from Dave I stalled it, then never again. Hell my GF drives it just fine too. It's a non-issue.

kimokalihi · Post by **kimokalihi** » Sat Oct 24, 2009 2:23 am

It's interesting to see the different opinions on the lightweight flywheels. I've never used one before.

Doesn't it make it easier to double clutch with the lightweight flywheel?

biggreen96 · Post by **biggreen96** » Sat Oct 24, 2009 2:44 am

Yup, makes it easier.

brand · Post by **brand** » Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:39 am

My 94 has a lightweight (although not super light) flywheel compared to my 91 and I much prefer the feel of the 94.

Dynamic Entry · Post by **Dynamic Entry** » Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:49 am

+1 on the WRX clutch and Exedy LW (14 lb) fly wheel

It's funny because I forgot that I have the light weight flywheel, you just get really used to it

Faster rev matching makes driving 'easier' in a way

It's certainly a preference/intention issue, but I agree that I will always want a light/er/ish flywheel

Mattheww044 · Post by **Mattheww044** » Sat Oct 24, 2009 9:25 pm

I've never used one either, but I've always planned for it when my car calls for a new clutch

kleinkid · Post by **kleinkid** » Sat Oct 24, 2009 11:34 pm

I had a Exedy stage one and Exedy LW flywheel, what junk those parts were. Clutch lasted about 5000 mi., flywheel was noisy, no real performance gains. Just garbage. Replaced with ACT SB4-HDSS clutch and stock STi flywheel. Works great. Pure bliss, shifts really easy, piece of cake to drive. I will never, EVER, in my lifetime, or yours, use anything Exedy. So there![makes farting noise with lips]. This is in my '91 with '06 STI six speed.

n2x4 · Post by **n2x4** » Sun Oct 25, 2009 3:33 am

I think the LW flywheel has it's +'s and -'s. I have an easier time rev matching with the stock heavy flywheel than the lightweight one. I think that's just because I suck at it though - lol.

An Exedy clutch that lasted 5K miles doesn't seem right to me. I've been happy with every clutch kit from them I've installed (4 or 5).

macipusy · Post by **macipusy** » Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:42 pm

I heard of people having problems with the clutch pedal not returning to its position properly with the WRX clutch. Can anyone confirm this. I need to get a new clutch for my 91 SS and need to decide weather to go with a stock one or a WRX.

Airgne · Post by **Airgne** » Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:03 pm

i ahve had problems with every exedy clutch i have had. they cant handle my driveing. if you have the money to spend on a good clutch go with a spec combo or cusco clutch.

LW flywheels are easy to drive. i dont know whta everyones problem is. i recommend a LW flywheel for and clutch change.

the spec flywheel has a changeable friction disc. this way you never have to buy a LW flywheel again. just change the disc.

93forestpearl · Post by **93forestpearl** » Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:26 pm

ACT gets their disks from Diakin though.

kimokalihi · Post by **kimokalihi** » Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:26 pm

That's how my clutchmasters LW flywheel is. I got it for free basically because it came with my EJ20H and it was in pretty good condition but the friction disc was pretty worn. So I bought a new one (cost like $115 just for the stupid insert!) but the retail on that flywheel is like $475. So says the clutchmasters site. So I figure I wasn't going to get it for less than $300 new or $200 used so it wasn't a bad deal.

Dynamic Entry · Post by **Dynamic Entry** » Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:50 am

macipusy wrote:I heard of people having problems with the clutch pedal not returning to its position properly with the WRX clutch. Can anyone confirm this. I need to get a new clutch for my 91 SS and need to decide weather to go with a stock one or a WRX.

I can confirm that when I put in a WRX clutch I did NOT have any problems with the pedal positioning.

race_to_live · Post by **race_to_live** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:38 am

ok don't make fun of me but i ordered a wrx clutch. and yes it is a stage 3 and a lw flywheel. but i do like the stage 3 and lw flywheel feel. It makes me feel like im driving my racecar. Also a friend had stage 3 with lw flywheel on his mazda's (1988 626, and rx7) and they are a blast to drive because it is so damn....racelike.

Matt Monson · Post by **Matt Monson** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:36 am

Good luck with that.

asc_up · Post by **asc_up** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:54 am

Oy, no bueno. I have a Stage 2 and it's ok, but I really wish I had stayed stock or at the most a Stage 1.

206er · Post by **206er** » Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:39 am

I'm in the middle of reading about clutches because I need one myself. It's a cable clutch so not totally the same as a hydro setup, dunno how much different they really are stage 1 to stage 1. I want it to hold up to the 22t with all the common bolt ons, havent done those yet but do need a clutch now. I'm guessing 300BHP is about what I'm looking at for maxing out the stock ecu with different turbo, intercooler, FCD, TBE, etc. please correct me if I'm wrong.

Here's what I can gather from reading mostly on nasioc and here.
F1 Racing off of ebay: slipping at 8k miles on a modded wrx? dunno, would like some beta on the 6 puck stage 3 which is ~$160 cheeeep!

SPEC Clutch: some people are saying they wear fast, I saw $320 for stage 1 from a nasioc vendor. subiegal said she loved the stage 1 but didn't really give much follow up info. Don't buy stage 2 kevlar, it wears fast. stage 3 is supposed to be decent if you want a 6 puck clutch.

Exedy Stage 1: Good reviews all around. supposedly has good wear resistance. dunno what power levels its actually good for. I saw $373 or something.

Clutchnet?

ACT?

asc_up · Post by **asc_up** » Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:49 pm

I have an F1 Stage 2 clutch. It's been in for about 2.5 years and doesn't show any signs of slipping. Although, I'd like to try a Stage 1 this next time around.

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