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I just ran across this and thought Dammit somebody beat me to it.

It's cool though.


http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2009/ ... e-concept/

Definitely a good idea, very well balanced motors that's for sure!

Wow,sickness.

damn, thats crazy, now we just need some super rich guy to put it to work haha

Or one of us.

Mattheww044 wrote:damn, thats crazy, now we just need some super rich guy to put it to work haha

Call up Leno!

yeah ok, possible design flaw. The turbo 2 inches below your balls. Hope you dont plan on having kids...

Nice looking bike! And the guy learned Solidworks while he was doing it. Best of all, someone in the comments listed a link to a shallow 5 qt oil pan for Subaru EJs. Might come in handy.

hey gotta keep those balls warm!! but wow haha

oh my god. how do you keep the front down? looks like about an 8 second bike.

magicmike wrote:yeah ok, possible design flaw. The turbo 2 inches below your balls. Hope you dont plan on having kids...

That's just the optional heated seat package!

Hope you dont plan on having kids

Check.

I see no problems here.

double layer triple insulated seat pan with a turbo wrap.....

All I'm saying is that they should make mechanical engineers take some classes on practicality of design and also make them spent say a minimum of 100 hours in a machine shop. That way they would understand that just because they can design it, that doesn't make it feasible or even good.

If I had a nickel for every time a mechanical engineer told me that "it works on paper" when I was trying to make some POS contraption work I'd be a millionaire...

magicmike wrote:If I had a nickel for every time a mechanical engineer told me that "it works on paper" when I was trying to make some POS contraption work I'd be a millionaire...

Not all Mech engineers are like that......however there are a lot like that. I am not one of them

Legacy777 wrote:Not all Mech engineers are like that......however there are a lot like that. I am not one of them

Well you are into Subaru's so you obviously have a clue All I am saying is that most (and I'm using that loosely) ME's have this strange personal god complex with their designs where their judgment and focus on the final product becomes clouded with their own personal wet dreams on making something cooler or more complex than it needs to be thus making it harder to manufacture which translates to higher cost.

I worked with a ME that could not make a prox bracket out of a piece of bar stock with 2 holes in it. What I mean is that all we "needed" was a prox to hang over a conveyor and sense a gear go by. Easy enough right? Well you could make a bracket out of bar stock for $10 material and labor max. But no this prick would spend 2 days designing a 3d model of some intricate aluminum bracket that required 5 or 6 different milling operations to produce and had 3 different radii on different surfaces and a notch and all this extra bullshit that had nothing to do with the function. so, it would take him 2 days to design (do the math based on what you make average an hour), then it would take maybe 3-4 hours to make in the machine shop (do the math), then you have the cost of the aluminum (do the math). A $10 dollar part ends up costing $300 dollars. Not to mention that the time is considerably longer before an assembler can put the part on which pushes the whole project back.

I had asked this guy one time if he could reduce the amount of operations on his designs to reduce the cost. His answer "I'm aways within my design budget". The problem with this is that the more complicated this shit was to make the more time it took the purchasing department to make it, thus delaying the project. But they didn't give a shit because they delivered the design on time.

Now, I would say that perhaps I just worked for a messed up company but I also dealt with A LOT of ME's with my work in the years and they were all the same.

I'm going on 355 days since my layoff, do you think I am still bitter?

Mike, I agree but I think in this case you should be complaining about designers who should know the same thing. It was like that for me in school. One example below:
"Cool looking car. Is this for handicapped people?"
"No. What are you talking about!?"
"It's for a double leg amputee, right? Where would his feet go if he wasn't?"
"Oh. Um. They'll fit."
(no they wouldn't).

Constantly I was annoyed by obvious oversights of the laws of physics or unavailable/impossible technology. The engineers I've had trouble with were more of a lack of understanding of how things work in the real world than flights of fantasy taking precedence over reality.

Almost made an engineer cry when I told him his reflow pallet design sucked. I didn't know it was his design until after I went off on it.

Most engineers I've encountered are incompetent and I blame a lot of that on society. Engineers are seen as dorks with respectable, but boring middle-class jobs and the schools tend to collect students looking for that. There almost should be no need for designers and engineers as an engineer should be both. Designers should be more just stylists (as many seem to want to be anyway). The best of the engineers would also be inventors of a sort. Unfortunately, passionate, talented engineers are in short supply. At least they're not as hard to find as humble designers! Jesus Christ, the egos in design school made me look like friggin' Ghandi.

I think a lot has to do with the industry engineers are in. I have my thoughts on the matter being an engineer and also an individual that likes to create things from scratch to solve problems in a simple matter (hence the subaru work I do).

However when it comes to industry there's a lot more BS that's get put into the mix. For example, what I did with my seat belt conversion.....I couldn't do that for a production type setup without running a lot more analysis/calculations to make sure it was idiot proof. Then I'm sure someone would step in about the asthetics....in comes the designer.....anyway....I'm kind of rambling.