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decided for my TW 5 speed swap to go with a 06 LGT 5 speed trany because the price was right. Going to try to post plenty of photos through the process, and make things as clear as possible. , List of parts are still tentative not all homework done

Quick Parts list- Not complete please feel free to add in:
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Tranmission - 06 LGT 5 speed Tran 04 Forester XT 5spd
Shifter and linkage - 09' to 11' STI shift linkage forgot which, will have to modify to get it to work
Flywheel - LW from 02 wrx trany 06 lgt or 06 wrx LW flywheel
Clutch and pressure plate - performance from 02 wrx using 06 wrx clutch
Rear diff - late 90s LGT 4.11 LSD, will see 04 XT 4.44 LSD
Pedal Assembly - 02 wrx pedals AP Racing Pedal Box, Tilton Slave Cylinder
Hydraulic Clutch line - braided

Center Drive - TW auto trany, xt
Rear main seal - EJ22T
Tran Mount - STI mounts, think they work
Rear diff mount - ? stock TW
Rear Separator Plate
8 bolts for flywheel

You'll also need the 8 bolts that bolt the flywheel to crank, and the six that bolt the pp to clutch disk. Small things i forgot. The auto flexplate bolts won't work. As for the flywheel/clutch, make sure they work because i remember someone saying the lgt used a dual mass flywheel. If the deal falls through, i got a full swap out of my 01 rs Im parting out.

I forgot starter needs to be modified i.e. grinded or changed, I believe

i think i will get the bolts for the flex plate from my buddy,

thanks for the offer, prob sticking with the LGT

I don't know that the starter can be modified. Looks very different from the manual one.

Assumed it was the same, guess I need to source one.

Anyone know if the casing is the same for the 05 LGT trany and the 6 speed sti trans, first glance it looked pretty similiar

that clutch wont work as well as the flywheel. that is a push style trans.

From the drive train section stick Gear Ratio and LSD info chart
http://spda-online.ca/modules/tinyconte ... tc_28.html

Appears they are all listed as pull style clutch transmissions

5MT Transmission (Pull Clutch)

US Legacy Turbo GT MY05
US Impreza WRX MY02
US Impreza WRX MY03

I also can tell you that 5 spd starters are different from six speed

Think I am going to go with the 05 LGT starter

Out of your list, are you referring to the 6spd STi shift linkage or just a 5spd "STi" short throw shifter linkage? The AT drive shaft will not work, it is too short. You will need a MT drive shaft.

6 speed linkage which I plan to modify to work with the LGT trany , has a kartboy short shifter with shifter bushing

wrx manual driveshaft should work i think

anyone know if the LGT trany mount will work?

Not saying it can't be done, but getting a 5MT shifter linkage setup will probably work better in the long run.

The WRX driveshaft may be too short. It's been noted that the WRX exhausts need to be lengthened in the mid-pipe section to fit our cars, so it's very plausible that the driveshaft would be shorter as well.

njdriver04 wrote:From the drive train section stick Gear Ratio and LSD info chart
http://spda-online.ca/modules/tinyconte ... tc_28.html

Appears they are all listed as pull style clutch transmissions

5MT Transmission (Pull Clutch)

US Legacy Turbo GT MY05
US Impreza WRX MY02
US Impreza WRX MY03

K dude, buy a pull style clutch if you want. Wont work

have you seen a lgt trans and clutch setup in person? I have.

i dont think the trans will work anyway... the 05 LGT trans is a 3.90.

either way, i have a driveshaft, pedals, hydraulics etc... just no trans atm.

sqc151 wrote:i dont think the trans will work anyway... the 05 LGT trans is a 3.90.

either way, i have a driveshaft, pedals, hydraulics etc... just no trans atm.

its a 4.11 final

MikeyMeyagi wrote:
K dude, buy a pull style clutch if you want. Wont work

have you seen a lgt trans and clutch setup in person? I have.

Most these parts are takeoffs from other subarus, the idea is to not buy more parts, If you specifically saw a 05 LGT clutch and flywheel please explain further I am just going by what the chart said so i don't run into these issues when my car is on a lift. Maybe the Rallispec Gearbox Chart is wrong, i don't think I missinterpreted it. I am guessing you saw a different model year LGT trany other than the 05 . For example 03 and 04 LGT trans were push style, I owned a 00' LGT when I somehow blew 5th gear on the NY State thruway when I swapped tranys I saw it "in person".

ur right, i got my 91SS trans mixed up with the LGT. durrrr...

Mikey is correct, the 05 LGT trans is a push style clutch setup. Here's the clutch info page from the 05 Legacy factory manual.

http://www.main.experiencetherave.com/s ... h_Info.pdf

Mikey you are right, just talked to my buddy who is selling the trans it is a push style, I am going to use an 06 wrx clutch not the 02-03 wrx clutch

Picture of the shifter linkage

Hi,
I just swapped in a '98 Forester 5-speed and an '00 4.11 rear LSD, so been there/done that on a couple of these items.


I saw it mentioned above, but you didn't "edit" your list. You'll need a different FW to go w/the Push-style clutch setup. After about a week I'm happy w/the ACT Streetlite I got used and had turned before install.

You'll need different rear axles for that LSD rear diff - it's an 'inny' not an 'outy' like your TW...or you might be able to re-use the stubs from your TW?

I don't know the size of the LGT trans, but a 5-speed drive-line from a '95-99 wouldn't fit my install - too long. A '93 did, BUT I had to swap the pinion flange on the 4.11 diff to match the older drive staff's flange...they changed bolt spacing along the way...BTW, that flange is PITA to get off the rear diff. I could've used the front half of the drive line from the '93 and rear half from a '95, but swapped the pinion flange instead.


Be aware of the speedo gear you may need to change/swap HERE is a post on NASIOC...If I read it correctly you need to split the case to do this.

GL,
Td

I am hoping my friends LW flywheel isn't too noisy he had some complaints about it in his wrx,

I am thinking of using as much of the LGT drive train as possible, hopefully the entire drive line, VLSD from a 00' RS and LGT rear axles, would like to avoid the issues with the flanges you listed above.

Before I decided to go with the LGT trans i researched the speedo gear issue, don't feel like paying that much for the gear from the dealer so i am going to the u pull for it.

Since you're looking @ doing this: Rear main seal - EJ22T (which may not be leaking)

You should also do the Rear Separator Plate - $25. (which probably IS leaking)

Td

njdriver04 wrote:Picture of the shifter linkage
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn27 ... CN8722.jpg

That linkage may work, but I've never heard anyone trying to use the 6spd linkage in the 5spd and whether it works or not.

wtdash wrote:Since you're looking @ doing this: Rear main seal - EJ22T (which may not be leaking)
You should also do the Rear Separator Plate - $25. (which probably IS leaking)
Td

good to know, this is my first ej22t, I have had

Legacy777 wrote:

njdriver04 wrote:Picture of the shifter linkage
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn27 ... CN8722.jpg

That linkage may work, but I've never heard anyone trying to use the 6spd linkage in the 5spd and whether it works or not.

either RS25 or DirtyImpreza I read someone either wanted to or did in fact do it. The short answer no it wont work due to the length of the control rods and bends, and the linkage core is symmetrical on the LGT,



pictured LGT 05-06 shifter

In modifying the shifter I wanted to do bend the control rods and cut out 1 to 1 1/2 inch each control rod. Afterwards, each of the cut ends will have threading machined on each end for a total of four ends, one side would have a left hamded thread and the othera right hand thread , then I need to source a nut with a 50/50 split in the thread direction which will allow me to adjust the actual length of the control rods, I want to go this route because it would allow my shifter to be adjustable to the point were I can find my sweet spot. I will also have the LGT shifter during the whole process so I can possibly make a hybrid shifter too. Thoughts????

njdriver04 wrote:

wtdash wrote:Since you're looking @ doing this: Rear main seal - EJ22T (which may not be leaking)
You should also do the Rear Separator Plate - $25. (which probably IS leaking)
Td

good to know, this is my first ej22t, I have had

ALL EJ's have the plate