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Camber and GD lateral links question

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:58 am
by Apex3
I'm having some serious trouble with rubbing with these new wheels, and it's the kick in the ass I need to fix the camber, which is about at 0 even with camber bolts. What I'm worried about though is if I swap in lateral links from a GD I don't want it pushing out the wheels even further than it already is. From what I've read it pushes out the bottom of the wheel, in doing that will the tire at the top move in as well to give me more clearance? Or would it stay basically the same?

Re: Camber and GD lateral links question

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:02 am
by crisco
if you push the bottom out, the top will have to go in if the upper arm length doesn't change. but it will go in by a smaller distance than what the distance the bottom goes out.

Re: Camber and GD lateral links question

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:53 am
by Apex3
Looking into it more I'd need new axles too...hmm, gonna have to figure out some way to do this, not trying to dump a bunch more money into it. Might just have the coilovers slotted.

Re: Camber and GD lateral links question

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:54 am
by crisco
yeah or use a slightly smaller bolt diameter on the top bolt. that will give you a degree or two at least.

Re: Camber and GD lateral links question

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:59 am
by Apex3
I already have camber bolts though, kinda worries me having smaller bolts top AND bottom.

Re: Camber and GD lateral links question

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:32 am
by crisco
i agree in that case. ive also slotted struts before so that should work

Re: Camber and GD lateral links question

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:27 am
by jamal
the top of the tire is still probably going to come out a little, and yeah, you're likely to pull the axles out of the diff.

have you rolled the fenders already?

Re: Camber and GD lateral links question

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:23 am
by Apex3
Yup, they are flat, I could pull them but at some point I'll probably lift the car and pulled fenders would look silly.

If I could find some cheap camber plates I wouldn't mind doing that, but I'm not trying to spend $400 on those things...

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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:54 am
by crisco
i dont think camber plates would work in the back. just because the side of the wheel well doesnt let you bring in the top of the strut any further. it would work if you wanted 'opposite' camber lol. unless your car has more room in there than mine.

Re: Camber and GD lateral links question

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:12 am
by bmxkelowna
slot the top hole on the coilover/strut where the knuckle mounts inwards

Re: Camber and GD lateral links question

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:31 am
by Apex3
I think that is what I am gonna do, for some reason I had this idea in my head that I'd have to have it machined, but I can easily do it at home...

Re: Camber and GD lateral links question

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:13 pm
by jamal
yeah it doesn't take much slotting to get a big alignment change. widening the hole by 1mm gets you almost a degree of camber.

Re: Camber and GD lateral links question

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:11 am
by Apex3
Just got done slotting them, did the trick perfectly! Now I just need to reload the springs on the coilovers since it's all uneven, probably do that tomorrow, but it looks great right now! And it doesn't rub nearly as much even though I lowered it about 1/2" too. I'll snap a pic once I get the ride height all sorted out.

Also need to get my rear sway bar back in, but I need new endlinks first.

Thanks for the input guys!

Re: Camber and GD lateral links question

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:09 am
by jamal
yeah I did a lot of slotting to my front struts. sti sedan cut out far enough to get -3 degrees of camber.

you might notice that kitty cat avatar I have now... let me know what endlinks you were looking to get.

Re: Camber and GD lateral links question

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:38 am
by Apex3
Whatever will get my 20-24 sway bar to fit, I think Kart Boy was the one people mentioned. But I need a new hood, so I'm gonna be running no sway bar for a little while, been taking too much money out of my m3 fund lately.

Re: Camber and GD lateral links question

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:11 pm
by beatersubi
Jamal, can you get spherical rod end endlinks? Agency Power used to make them, but I can't find them any more.

Also, your location reads Missoula?

Re: Camber and GD lateral links question

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:17 am
by jamal
Apex3 wrote:Whatever will get my 20-24 sway bar to fit, I think Kart Boy was the one people mentioned. But I need a new hood, so I'm gonna be running no sway bar for a little while, been taking too much money out of my m3 fund lately.
best bet is to swap to the newer style rear lateral links. anything for a 92-99 legacy/outback, 93-01 impreza, 02-07 impreza wagon use the "C" style endlinks. Getting endlinks for the 90-91 cars these days is more an issue of making something yourself that fits now that the whitelines are no longer available on their own from what I can tell. a rod-end, a bolt, some washers, and some generic bushings would do it.
beatersubi wrote:Jamal, can you get spherical rod end endlinks? Agency Power used to make them, but I can't find them any more.

Also, your location reads Missoula?
I can get Perrins, and yes, back in missoula for awhile.

Re: Camber and GD lateral links question

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:21 am
by Apex3
I've already swapped over to the newer style, the problem is the endlinks I have rub up against the fuel filler pipe with it as low as it is now.

Also, couple pics of how I've got it now, I need to lift it another 1/4" or so though on one side.

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Re: Camber and GD lateral links question

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:44 am
by jamal
Ah, ok. In that case kartboys should do the trick, they're shorter specifically for this reason.

Re: Camber and GD lateral links question

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:49 pm
by beatersubi
Looking good, Apex. :smt023
What wheels are those?

Thanks, Jamal.

Re: Camber and GD lateral links question

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:26 am
by bmxkelowna
the endlink shouldn't rub that filler tube my purple car is a bit lower then that and i have no issue with stock end links and a sti 20mm rsb

Re: Camber and GD lateral links question

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:16 am
by Apex3
They aren't stock endlinks, they're Rallitek for my 20-24mm bar.

beater they are Stance Mindset, and thanks!