Digest Number 224
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2001 1:18 pm
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> 1. Re: SWAPPING HEADS CONTINUED
> From: Jay Erlenbach <legacy_productions@yahoo.com>
> 2. Subaru Legacy -90
> From: "lns" <johnny@lin-net.nu>
> 3. Fluttering
> From: "Ross" <vecc@tpgi.com.au>
> 4. Re: Subaru Legacy -90
> From: "Dave C" <legacycentral@yahoo.com>
> 5. Re: SWAPPING HEADS CONTINUED
> From: "Dave C" <legacycentral@yahoo.com>
> 6. Re: SWAPPING HEADS CONTINUED
> From: "Dave C" <legacycentral@yahoo.com>
> 7. Re: Subaru Legacy -90
> From: "jason grahn" <jgrahn555@hotmail.com>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 15:53:43 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Jay Erlenbach <legacy_productions@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: SWAPPING HEADS CONTINUED
>
> I am just curious but do you know what he was using
> for engine management?
>
> Jay Erlenbach
>
>
> --- ssspoon@aol.com wrote:
> > About 18 months ago I was pulling out of a parking
> > lot right behind what
> > looked like an Imprezza with a tricked out rear end
> > treatment. I pulled
> > along next to it at the first light and sure enough,
> > it was an Imprezza. I
> > yelled over that it looked and sounded pretty nice
> > and asked the driver to
> > demonstrate how its' acceleration compared to my
> > Turbo Legacy. I was quite
> > surprised by how quickly the lowly noisy Imprezza
> > widened a gap between us.
> > I flagged the driver over, we got out, but before we
> > could introduce
> > ourselves, I noticed the front end of the lowly
> > Imprezza was half filled with
> > a front mounted intercooler. The interior was
> > gutted, and fitted with a full
> > roll cage to compliment what was obviously a very
> > expensive drivers' seat
> > tied to a five point harness. As my bulging eyes
> > betrayed my suspicions and
> > wonderment, the driver popped the hood with a
> > devilish grin to reveal one of
> > the most beautiful examples of custom turbo
> > plumbing, fuel rails, and fully
> > braided steel hoses I have ever seen. This lowly
> > Imprezza had been the
> > recipient of a transplant that would make Dr.
> > Frankenstein envious. A race
> > prepped 2.2 LEGACY ENGINE was the platform chosen to
> > transform the US spec
> > Imprezza into a vehicle with an engine which was the
> > equivalent of a US built
> > 22B, only more powerful!!! I know, there has to be
> > someone reading this who
> > is scoffing with disbelief, as did many members of
> > the Imprezza enthusiasts
> > STi-Mlist did when I posted that I had ridden in
> > what felt like a 400
> > horsepower Imprezza. After inviting my new friend
> > onto the list, his
> > continuous experimentation, tweaking, and changes,
> > without regard for, or
> > proof of specific horsepower figures or drag strip
> > times caused additional
> > scorn and disbelief. In the intervening months
> > though, the skepticism
> > gradually diminished as more and more people were
> > able to report their
> > witness of the machine in the flesh. The car is
> > still driven on the street,
> > and capable of sustaining such incredible levels of
> > boost, such that the 400
> > and then 500 horsepower barriers were crossed and
> > left behind several months
> > ago. Today, Byron Leggett is somewhat of a legend
> > in his own time, and
> > deservedly so, as the father of what just may be,
> > the worlds' most powerful
> > Subaru. I admit to surprise and excitement upon
> > reading Byron's insightful
> > reply to our question, I'll bet a dollar, I won't be
> > alone;
> >
> > Subj: Re: swapping heads
> > Date: 03/31/01 101:10 AM Pacific Standard Time
> > From: <A HREF="mailto:BSpecUSA">BSpecUSA</A>
> > To: <A HREF="mailto:Ssspoon">Ssspoon</A>
> >
> > If you already have the 2.2 heads, take the time to
> > work them. They can
> > outflow and outperform the 2.0 and the 2.5 heads.
> > Valve size can be
> > increased to be larger than the 2.0 or 2.5 heads.
> > Plus, it's already a turbo
> > head and has a great combustion chamber design.
> > Don't be afraid to use what
> > you have, I stick to the 2.2 Legacy head, which can
> > support over 600 HP --
> > why change, when it can barely be done with a 2.0
> > head?
> >
> > PS B-Spec USA will gladly do your head and valve
> > work for you!
> >
> > Byron Leggett
> > www.B-SpecUSA.com
> >
> > Thank you very much Byron, which for me have been
> > words of encouragement and
> > enlightenment. After what Subaru Master Tech, Steve
> > Powell said about the
> > 2.2 engine being the best, and now this... I have to
> > reevaluate some of my
> > thinking. That's all for now, but that's quite a
> > bit. Hope we have more
> > coming. When and if we do, I'll check in. Larry
> > Ssspoon Witherspoon
> >
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 11:39:31 +0200
> From: "lns" <johnny@lin-net.nu>
> Subject: Subaru Legacy -90
>
> Hi all Subaru users,
>
> I am new to this list and have a problem i hope to be resolved:
> i have "air suspensions" (dont know if its called that in english) and
first the right one begunn to leak a couple of years ago, that one was
replaced with a new, it cost almost 900$ here in sweden, this was not a
problem at the time but now the other side have sprong leak, the question
is: is it an idea to buy a used? i cant afford a new one right now, what
models have the same? is this a normal fault on the Legacy air suspencion?
Will the rear also give in soon? Any sugestions?
>
> Lots of questions but thats mainly becuse of the absense of a swedish
dealer.
>
>
> Thx
> /Johnny
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 18:215 +1000
> From: "Ross" <vecc@tpgi.com.au>
> Subject: Fluttering
>
> Hello all, sometimes when I rev my RS Turbo between 3500 and 4500 rpm I
hear a ' fluttering' type sound, difficult to explain, but it then goes away
and all I hear is a smooth acceleration. Is this normal? Does anyone else
know what I am talking about? It happens on smooth acceleration in 3rd
gear, not hard acceleration in 2nd gear, i.e I don't have my foot to the
floor, I am accelerating smoothly but purposefully. Any ideas, anyone?
> Regards,
> Ross
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 13:25:27 -0000
> From: "Dave C" <legacycentral@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Subaru Legacy -90
>
> My recommendation, and the most common course of action on Legacies
> with air suspensions, is to remove the air struts and replace them
> with the standard gas struts from a salvaged Legacy.
>
> These will never leak, and when they go bad, they just don't work
> quite as well, instead of failing completely.
>
> You should be able to find a set, but it might be a bit tricky in
> your area. You'd possibly have to get some from the UK. The whole
> replacement setup will probably cost less than two air struts and
> last much longer.
>
> --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "lns" <johnny@l...> wrote:
> > Hi all Subaru users,
> >
> > I am new to this list and have a problem i hope to be resolved:
> > i have "air suspensions" (dont know if its called that in english)
> and first the right one begunn to leak a couple of years ago, that
> one was replaced with a new, it cost almost 900$ here in sweden, this
> was not a problem at the time but now the other side have sprong
> leak, the question is: is it an idea to buy a used? i cant afford a
> new one right now, what models have the same? is this a normal fault
> on the Legacy air suspencion? Will the rear also give in soon? Any
> sugestions?
> >
> > Lots of questions but thats mainly becuse of the absense of a
> swedish dealer.
> >
> >
> > Thx
> > /Johnny
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 13:306 -0000
> From: "Dave C" <legacycentral@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: SWAPPING HEADS CONTINUED
>
> I was fortunate enough to meet Byron at the SEMA 2000 show, where his
> incredible Impreza was displayed at the KAAZ booth.
>
> He's one of the nicest guys i've ever met, always willing to answer
> my silly questions, and very cool.
>
> Check the Turbo-Centric Members' section for pics of this car.
>
> I think you probably saw it in the earlier days when it was still
> very white, and didn't have stickers and the cool B&W paint scheme.
>
> The legend exists.
>
> --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., ssspoon@a... wrote:
> > About 18 months ago I was pulling out of a parking lot right behind
> what
> > looked like an Imprezza with a tricked out rear end treatment. I
> pulled
> > along next to it at the first light and sure enough, it was an
> Imprezza. I
> > yelled over that it looked and sounded pretty nice and asked the
> driver to
> > demonstrate how its' acceleration compared to my Turbo Legacy. I
> was quite
> > surprised by how quickly the lowly noisy Imprezza widened a gap
> between us.
> > I flagged the driver over, we got out, but before we could
> introduce
> > ourselves, I noticed the front end of the lowly Imprezza was half
> filled with
> > a front mounted intercooler. The interior was gutted, and fitted
> with a full
> > roll cage to compliment what was obviously a very expensive
> drivers' seat
> > tied to a five point harness. As my bulging eyes betrayed my
> suspicions and
> > wonderment, the driver popped the hood with a devilish grin to
> reveal one of
> > the most beautiful examples of custom turbo plumbing, fuel rails,
> and fully
> > braided steel hoses I have ever seen. This lowly Imprezza had been
> the
> > recipient of a transplant that would make Dr. Frankenstein
> envious. A race
> > prepped 2.2 LEGACY ENGINE was the platform chosen to transform the
> US spec
> > Imprezza into a vehicle with an engine which was the equivalent of
> a US built
> > 22B, only more powerful!!! I know, there has to be someone reading
> this who
> > is scoffing with disbelief, as did many members of the Imprezza
> enthusiasts
> > STi-Mlist did when I posted that I had ridden in what felt like a
> 400
> > horsepower Imprezza. After inviting my new friend onto the list,
> his
> > continuous experimentation, tweaking, and changes, without regard
> for, or
> > proof of specific horsepower figures or drag strip times caused
> additional
> > scorn and disbelief. In the intervening months though, the
> skepticism
> > gradually diminished as more and more people were able to report
> their
> > witness of the machine in the flesh. The car is still driven on the
> street,
> > and capable of sustaining such incredible levels of boost, such
> that the 400
> > and then 500 horsepower barriers were crossed and left behind
> several months
> > ago. Today, Byron Leggett is somewhat of a legend in his own time,
> and
> > deservedly so, as the father of what just may be, the worlds' most
> powerful
> > Subaru. I admit to surprise and excitement upon reading Byron's
> insightful
> > reply to our question, I'll bet a dollar, I won't be alone;
> >
> > Subj: Re: swapping heads
> > Date: 03/31/01 101:10 AM Pacific Standard Time
> > From: <A HREF="mailto:BSpecUSA">BSpecUSA</A>
> > To: <A HREF="mailto:Ssspoon">Ssspoon</A>
> >
> > If you already have the 2.2 heads, take the time to work them.
> They can
> > outflow and outperform the 2.0 and the 2.5 heads. Valve size can
> be
> > increased to be larger than the 2.0 or 2.5 heads. Plus, it's
> already a turbo
> > head and has a great combustion chamber design. Don't be afraid to
> use what
> > you have, I stick to the 2.2 Legacy head, which can support over
> 600 HP --
> > why change, when it can barely be done with a 2.0 head?
> >
> > PS B-Spec USA will gladly do your head and valve work for you!
> >
> > Byron Leggett
> > www.B-SpecUSA.com
> >
> > Thank you very much Byron, which for me have been words of
> encouragement and
> > enlightenment. After what Subaru Master Tech, Steve Powell said
> about the
> > 2.2 engine being the best, and now this... I have to reevaluate
> some of my
> > thinking. That's all for now, but that's quite a bit. Hope we
> have more
> > coming. When and if we do, I'll check in. Larry Ssspoon
> Witherspoon
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 13:30:51 -0000
> From: "Dave C" <legacycentral@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: SWAPPING HEADS CONTINUED
>
> He's using the Wolf3D engine management system, and possibly some
> other piggyback stuff.
>
> --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., Jay Erlenbach <legacy_productions@y...>
> wrote:
> > I am just curious but do you know what he was using
> > for engine management?
> >
> > Jay Erlenbach
> >
> >
> > --- ssspoon@a... wrote:
> > > About 18 months ago I was pulling out of a parking
> > > lot right behind what
> > > looked like an Imprezza with a tricked out rear end
> > > treatment. I pulled
> > > along next to it at the first light and sure enough,
> > > it was an Imprezza. I
> > > yelled over that it looked and sounded pretty nice
> > > and asked the driver to
> > > demonstrate how its' acceleration compared to my
> > > Turbo Legacy. I was quite
> > > surprised by how quickly the lowly noisy Imprezza
> > > widened a gap between us.
> > > I flagged the driver over, we got out, but before we
> > > could introduce
> > > ourselves, I noticed the front end of the lowly
> > > Imprezza was half filled with
> > > a front mounted intercooler. The interior was
> > > gutted, and fitted with a full
> > > roll cage to compliment what was obviously a very
> > > expensive drivers' seat
> > > tied to a five point harness. As my bulging eyes
> > > betrayed my suspicions and
> > > wonderment, the driver popped the hood with a
> > > devilish grin to reveal one of
> > > the most beautiful examples of custom turbo
> > > plumbing, fuel rails, and fully
> > > braided steel hoses I have ever seen. This lowly
> > > Imprezza had been the
> > > recipient of a transplant that would make Dr.
> > > Frankenstein envious. A race
> > > prepped 2.2 LEGACY ENGINE was the platform chosen to
> > > transform the US spec
> > > Imprezza into a vehicle with an engine which was the
> > > equivalent of a US built
> > > 22B, only more powerful!!! I know, there has to be
> > > someone reading this who
> > > is scoffing with disbelief, as did many members of
> > > the Imprezza enthusiasts
> > > STi-Mlist did when I posted that I had ridden in
> > > what felt like a 400
> > > horsepower Imprezza. After inviting my new friend
> > > onto the list, his
> > > continuous experimentation, tweaking, and changes,
> > > without regard for, or
> > > proof of specific horsepower figures or drag strip
> > > times caused additional
> > > scorn and disbelief. In the intervening months
> > > though, the skepticism
> > > gradually diminished as more and more people were
> > > able to report their
> > > witness of the machine in the flesh. The car is
> > > still driven on the street,
> > > and capable of sustaining such incredible levels of
> > > boost, such that the 400
> > > and then 500 horsepower barriers were crossed and
> > > left behind several months
> > > ago. Today, Byron Leggett is somewhat of a legend
> > > in his own time, and
> > > deservedly so, as the father of what just may be,
> > > the worlds' most powerful
> > > Subaru. I admit to surprise and excitement upon
> > > reading Byron's insightful
> > > reply to our question, I'll bet a dollar, I won't be
> > > alone;
> > >
> > > Subj: Re: swapping heads
> > > Date: 03/31/01 101:10 AM Pacific Standard Time
> > > From: <A HREF="mailto:BSpecUSA">BSpecUSA</A>
> > > To: <A HREF="mailto:Ssspoon">Ssspoon</A>
> > >
> > > If you already have the 2.2 heads, take the time to
> > > work them. They can
> > > outflow and outperform the 2.0 and the 2.5 heads.
> > > Valve size can be
> > > increased to be larger than the 2.0 or 2.5 heads.
> > > Plus, it's already a turbo
> > > head and has a great combustion chamber design.
> > > Don't be afraid to use what
> > > you have, I stick to the 2.2 Legacy head, which can
> > > support over 600 HP --
> > > why change, when it can barely be done with a 2.0
> > > head?
> > >
> > > PS B-Spec USA will gladly do your head and valve
> > > work for you!
> > >
> > > Byron Leggett
> > > www.B-SpecUSA.com
> > >
> > > Thank you very much Byron, which for me have been
> > > words of encouragement and
> > > enlightenment. After what Subaru Master Tech, Steve
> > > Powell said about the
> > > 2.2 engine being the best, and now this... I have to
> > > reevaluate some of my
> > > thinking. That's all for now, but that's quite a
> > > bit. Hope we have more
> > > coming. When and if we do, I'll check in. Larry
> > > Ssspoon Witherspoon
> > >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail.
> > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 07:51:19 -0700
> From: "jason grahn" <jgrahn555@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Subaru Legacy -90
>
> From what i understand, even though the air-suspension is really
> comfortable, it's a pain in the @ss to work on, and it does tend to break
> more often-then-not.
>
> Instead of swapping your air-struts to more air-struts, you might want to
> look into a regular strut or even high-performance while your at it. KYB,
> Koni, STi, and Tein all make bolt in struts for our car. Good luck!
>
> Jason
>
>
> >From: "lns" <johnny@lin-net.nu>
> >Reply-To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
> >To: <BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com>
> >Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Subaru Legacy -90
> >Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 11:39:31 +0200
> >
> >Hi all Subaru users,
> >
> >I am new to this list and have a problem i hope to be resolved:
> >i have "air suspensions" (dont know if its called that in english) and
> >first the right one begunn to leak a couple of years ago, that one was
> >replaced with a new, it cost almost 900$ here in sweden, this was not a
> >problem at the time but now the other side have sprong leak, the question
> >is: is it an idea to buy a used? i cant afford a new one right now, what
> >models have the same? is this a normal fault on the Legacy air
suspencion?
> >Will the rear also give in soon? Any sugestions?
> >
> >Lots of questions but thats mainly becuse of the absense of a swedish
> >dealer.
> >
> >
> >Thx
> >/Johnny
>
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> 1. Re: SWAPPING HEADS CONTINUED
> From: Jay Erlenbach <legacy_productions@yahoo.com>
> 2. Subaru Legacy -90
> From: "lns" <johnny@lin-net.nu>
> 3. Fluttering
> From: "Ross" <vecc@tpgi.com.au>
> 4. Re: Subaru Legacy -90
> From: "Dave C" <legacycentral@yahoo.com>
> 5. Re: SWAPPING HEADS CONTINUED
> From: "Dave C" <legacycentral@yahoo.com>
> 6. Re: SWAPPING HEADS CONTINUED
> From: "Dave C" <legacycentral@yahoo.com>
> 7. Re: Subaru Legacy -90
> From: "jason grahn" <jgrahn555@hotmail.com>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 15:53:43 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Jay Erlenbach <legacy_productions@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: SWAPPING HEADS CONTINUED
>
> I am just curious but do you know what he was using
> for engine management?
>
> Jay Erlenbach
>
>
> --- ssspoon@aol.com wrote:
> > About 18 months ago I was pulling out of a parking
> > lot right behind what
> > looked like an Imprezza with a tricked out rear end
> > treatment. I pulled
> > along next to it at the first light and sure enough,
> > it was an Imprezza. I
> > yelled over that it looked and sounded pretty nice
> > and asked the driver to
> > demonstrate how its' acceleration compared to my
> > Turbo Legacy. I was quite
> > surprised by how quickly the lowly noisy Imprezza
> > widened a gap between us.
> > I flagged the driver over, we got out, but before we
> > could introduce
> > ourselves, I noticed the front end of the lowly
> > Imprezza was half filled with
> > a front mounted intercooler. The interior was
> > gutted, and fitted with a full
> > roll cage to compliment what was obviously a very
> > expensive drivers' seat
> > tied to a five point harness. As my bulging eyes
> > betrayed my suspicions and
> > wonderment, the driver popped the hood with a
> > devilish grin to reveal one of
> > the most beautiful examples of custom turbo
> > plumbing, fuel rails, and fully
> > braided steel hoses I have ever seen. This lowly
> > Imprezza had been the
> > recipient of a transplant that would make Dr.
> > Frankenstein envious. A race
> > prepped 2.2 LEGACY ENGINE was the platform chosen to
> > transform the US spec
> > Imprezza into a vehicle with an engine which was the
> > equivalent of a US built
> > 22B, only more powerful!!! I know, there has to be
> > someone reading this who
> > is scoffing with disbelief, as did many members of
> > the Imprezza enthusiasts
> > STi-Mlist did when I posted that I had ridden in
> > what felt like a 400
> > horsepower Imprezza. After inviting my new friend
> > onto the list, his
> > continuous experimentation, tweaking, and changes,
> > without regard for, or
> > proof of specific horsepower figures or drag strip
> > times caused additional
> > scorn and disbelief. In the intervening months
> > though, the skepticism
> > gradually diminished as more and more people were
> > able to report their
> > witness of the machine in the flesh. The car is
> > still driven on the street,
> > and capable of sustaining such incredible levels of
> > boost, such that the 400
> > and then 500 horsepower barriers were crossed and
> > left behind several months
> > ago. Today, Byron Leggett is somewhat of a legend
> > in his own time, and
> > deservedly so, as the father of what just may be,
> > the worlds' most powerful
> > Subaru. I admit to surprise and excitement upon
> > reading Byron's insightful
> > reply to our question, I'll bet a dollar, I won't be
> > alone;
> >
> > Subj: Re: swapping heads
> > Date: 03/31/01 101:10 AM Pacific Standard Time
> > From: <A HREF="mailto:BSpecUSA">BSpecUSA</A>
> > To: <A HREF="mailto:Ssspoon">Ssspoon</A>
> >
> > If you already have the 2.2 heads, take the time to
> > work them. They can
> > outflow and outperform the 2.0 and the 2.5 heads.
> > Valve size can be
> > increased to be larger than the 2.0 or 2.5 heads.
> > Plus, it's already a turbo
> > head and has a great combustion chamber design.
> > Don't be afraid to use what
> > you have, I stick to the 2.2 Legacy head, which can
> > support over 600 HP --
> > why change, when it can barely be done with a 2.0
> > head?
> >
> > PS B-Spec USA will gladly do your head and valve
> > work for you!
> >
> > Byron Leggett
> > www.B-SpecUSA.com
> >
> > Thank you very much Byron, which for me have been
> > words of encouragement and
> > enlightenment. After what Subaru Master Tech, Steve
> > Powell said about the
> > 2.2 engine being the best, and now this... I have to
> > reevaluate some of my
> > thinking. That's all for now, but that's quite a
> > bit. Hope we have more
> > coming. When and if we do, I'll check in. Larry
> > Ssspoon Witherspoon
> >
>
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> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 11:39:31 +0200
> From: "lns" <johnny@lin-net.nu>
> Subject: Subaru Legacy -90
>
> Hi all Subaru users,
>
> I am new to this list and have a problem i hope to be resolved:
> i have "air suspensions" (dont know if its called that in english) and
first the right one begunn to leak a couple of years ago, that one was
replaced with a new, it cost almost 900$ here in sweden, this was not a
problem at the time but now the other side have sprong leak, the question
is: is it an idea to buy a used? i cant afford a new one right now, what
models have the same? is this a normal fault on the Legacy air suspencion?
Will the rear also give in soon? Any sugestions?
>
> Lots of questions but thats mainly becuse of the absense of a swedish
dealer.
>
>
> Thx
> /Johnny
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 18:215 +1000
> From: "Ross" <vecc@tpgi.com.au>
> Subject: Fluttering
>
> Hello all, sometimes when I rev my RS Turbo between 3500 and 4500 rpm I
hear a ' fluttering' type sound, difficult to explain, but it then goes away
and all I hear is a smooth acceleration. Is this normal? Does anyone else
know what I am talking about? It happens on smooth acceleration in 3rd
gear, not hard acceleration in 2nd gear, i.e I don't have my foot to the
floor, I am accelerating smoothly but purposefully. Any ideas, anyone?
> Regards,
> Ross
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 13:25:27 -0000
> From: "Dave C" <legacycentral@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Subaru Legacy -90
>
> My recommendation, and the most common course of action on Legacies
> with air suspensions, is to remove the air struts and replace them
> with the standard gas struts from a salvaged Legacy.
>
> These will never leak, and when they go bad, they just don't work
> quite as well, instead of failing completely.
>
> You should be able to find a set, but it might be a bit tricky in
> your area. You'd possibly have to get some from the UK. The whole
> replacement setup will probably cost less than two air struts and
> last much longer.
>
> --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "lns" <johnny@l...> wrote:
> > Hi all Subaru users,
> >
> > I am new to this list and have a problem i hope to be resolved:
> > i have "air suspensions" (dont know if its called that in english)
> and first the right one begunn to leak a couple of years ago, that
> one was replaced with a new, it cost almost 900$ here in sweden, this
> was not a problem at the time but now the other side have sprong
> leak, the question is: is it an idea to buy a used? i cant afford a
> new one right now, what models have the same? is this a normal fault
> on the Legacy air suspencion? Will the rear also give in soon? Any
> sugestions?
> >
> > Lots of questions but thats mainly becuse of the absense of a
> swedish dealer.
> >
> >
> > Thx
> > /Johnny
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 13:306 -0000
> From: "Dave C" <legacycentral@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: SWAPPING HEADS CONTINUED
>
> I was fortunate enough to meet Byron at the SEMA 2000 show, where his
> incredible Impreza was displayed at the KAAZ booth.
>
> He's one of the nicest guys i've ever met, always willing to answer
> my silly questions, and very cool.
>
> Check the Turbo-Centric Members' section for pics of this car.
>
> I think you probably saw it in the earlier days when it was still
> very white, and didn't have stickers and the cool B&W paint scheme.
>
> The legend exists.
>
> --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., ssspoon@a... wrote:
> > About 18 months ago I was pulling out of a parking lot right behind
> what
> > looked like an Imprezza with a tricked out rear end treatment. I
> pulled
> > along next to it at the first light and sure enough, it was an
> Imprezza. I
> > yelled over that it looked and sounded pretty nice and asked the
> driver to
> > demonstrate how its' acceleration compared to my Turbo Legacy. I
> was quite
> > surprised by how quickly the lowly noisy Imprezza widened a gap
> between us.
> > I flagged the driver over, we got out, but before we could
> introduce
> > ourselves, I noticed the front end of the lowly Imprezza was half
> filled with
> > a front mounted intercooler. The interior was gutted, and fitted
> with a full
> > roll cage to compliment what was obviously a very expensive
> drivers' seat
> > tied to a five point harness. As my bulging eyes betrayed my
> suspicions and
> > wonderment, the driver popped the hood with a devilish grin to
> reveal one of
> > the most beautiful examples of custom turbo plumbing, fuel rails,
> and fully
> > braided steel hoses I have ever seen. This lowly Imprezza had been
> the
> > recipient of a transplant that would make Dr. Frankenstein
> envious. A race
> > prepped 2.2 LEGACY ENGINE was the platform chosen to transform the
> US spec
> > Imprezza into a vehicle with an engine which was the equivalent of
> a US built
> > 22B, only more powerful!!! I know, there has to be someone reading
> this who
> > is scoffing with disbelief, as did many members of the Imprezza
> enthusiasts
> > STi-Mlist did when I posted that I had ridden in what felt like a
> 400
> > horsepower Imprezza. After inviting my new friend onto the list,
> his
> > continuous experimentation, tweaking, and changes, without regard
> for, or
> > proof of specific horsepower figures or drag strip times caused
> additional
> > scorn and disbelief. In the intervening months though, the
> skepticism
> > gradually diminished as more and more people were able to report
> their
> > witness of the machine in the flesh. The car is still driven on the
> street,
> > and capable of sustaining such incredible levels of boost, such
> that the 400
> > and then 500 horsepower barriers were crossed and left behind
> several months
> > ago. Today, Byron Leggett is somewhat of a legend in his own time,
> and
> > deservedly so, as the father of what just may be, the worlds' most
> powerful
> > Subaru. I admit to surprise and excitement upon reading Byron's
> insightful
> > reply to our question, I'll bet a dollar, I won't be alone;
> >
> > Subj: Re: swapping heads
> > Date: 03/31/01 101:10 AM Pacific Standard Time
> > From: <A HREF="mailto:BSpecUSA">BSpecUSA</A>
> > To: <A HREF="mailto:Ssspoon">Ssspoon</A>
> >
> > If you already have the 2.2 heads, take the time to work them.
> They can
> > outflow and outperform the 2.0 and the 2.5 heads. Valve size can
> be
> > increased to be larger than the 2.0 or 2.5 heads. Plus, it's
> already a turbo
> > head and has a great combustion chamber design. Don't be afraid to
> use what
> > you have, I stick to the 2.2 Legacy head, which can support over
> 600 HP --
> > why change, when it can barely be done with a 2.0 head?
> >
> > PS B-Spec USA will gladly do your head and valve work for you!
> >
> > Byron Leggett
> > www.B-SpecUSA.com
> >
> > Thank you very much Byron, which for me have been words of
> encouragement and
> > enlightenment. After what Subaru Master Tech, Steve Powell said
> about the
> > 2.2 engine being the best, and now this... I have to reevaluate
> some of my
> > thinking. That's all for now, but that's quite a bit. Hope we
> have more
> > coming. When and if we do, I'll check in. Larry Ssspoon
> Witherspoon
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
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>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 13:30:51 -0000
> From: "Dave C" <legacycentral@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: SWAPPING HEADS CONTINUED
>
> He's using the Wolf3D engine management system, and possibly some
> other piggyback stuff.
>
> --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., Jay Erlenbach <legacy_productions@y...>
> wrote:
> > I am just curious but do you know what he was using
> > for engine management?
> >
> > Jay Erlenbach
> >
> >
> > --- ssspoon@a... wrote:
> > > About 18 months ago I was pulling out of a parking
> > > lot right behind what
> > > looked like an Imprezza with a tricked out rear end
> > > treatment. I pulled
> > > along next to it at the first light and sure enough,
> > > it was an Imprezza. I
> > > yelled over that it looked and sounded pretty nice
> > > and asked the driver to
> > > demonstrate how its' acceleration compared to my
> > > Turbo Legacy. I was quite
> > > surprised by how quickly the lowly noisy Imprezza
> > > widened a gap between us.
> > > I flagged the driver over, we got out, but before we
> > > could introduce
> > > ourselves, I noticed the front end of the lowly
> > > Imprezza was half filled with
> > > a front mounted intercooler. The interior was
> > > gutted, and fitted with a full
> > > roll cage to compliment what was obviously a very
> > > expensive drivers' seat
> > > tied to a five point harness. As my bulging eyes
> > > betrayed my suspicions and
> > > wonderment, the driver popped the hood with a
> > > devilish grin to reveal one of
> > > the most beautiful examples of custom turbo
> > > plumbing, fuel rails, and fully
> > > braided steel hoses I have ever seen. This lowly
> > > Imprezza had been the
> > > recipient of a transplant that would make Dr.
> > > Frankenstein envious. A race
> > > prepped 2.2 LEGACY ENGINE was the platform chosen to
> > > transform the US spec
> > > Imprezza into a vehicle with an engine which was the
> > > equivalent of a US built
> > > 22B, only more powerful!!! I know, there has to be
> > > someone reading this who
> > > is scoffing with disbelief, as did many members of
> > > the Imprezza enthusiasts
> > > STi-Mlist did when I posted that I had ridden in
> > > what felt like a 400
> > > horsepower Imprezza. After inviting my new friend
> > > onto the list, his
> > > continuous experimentation, tweaking, and changes,
> > > without regard for, or
> > > proof of specific horsepower figures or drag strip
> > > times caused additional
> > > scorn and disbelief. In the intervening months
> > > though, the skepticism
> > > gradually diminished as more and more people were
> > > able to report their
> > > witness of the machine in the flesh. The car is
> > > still driven on the street,
> > > and capable of sustaining such incredible levels of
> > > boost, such that the 400
> > > and then 500 horsepower barriers were crossed and
> > > left behind several months
> > > ago. Today, Byron Leggett is somewhat of a legend
> > > in his own time, and
> > > deservedly so, as the father of what just may be,
> > > the worlds' most powerful
> > > Subaru. I admit to surprise and excitement upon
> > > reading Byron's insightful
> > > reply to our question, I'll bet a dollar, I won't be
> > > alone;
> > >
> > > Subj: Re: swapping heads
> > > Date: 03/31/01 101:10 AM Pacific Standard Time
> > > From: <A HREF="mailto:BSpecUSA">BSpecUSA</A>
> > > To: <A HREF="mailto:Ssspoon">Ssspoon</A>
> > >
> > > If you already have the 2.2 heads, take the time to
> > > work them. They can
> > > outflow and outperform the 2.0 and the 2.5 heads.
> > > Valve size can be
> > > increased to be larger than the 2.0 or 2.5 heads.
> > > Plus, it's already a turbo
> > > head and has a great combustion chamber design.
> > > Don't be afraid to use what
> > > you have, I stick to the 2.2 Legacy head, which can
> > > support over 600 HP --
> > > why change, when it can barely be done with a 2.0
> > > head?
> > >
> > > PS B-Spec USA will gladly do your head and valve
> > > work for you!
> > >
> > > Byron Leggett
> > > www.B-SpecUSA.com
> > >
> > > Thank you very much Byron, which for me have been
> > > words of encouragement and
> > > enlightenment. After what Subaru Master Tech, Steve
> > > Powell said about the
> > > 2.2 engine being the best, and now this... I have to
> > > reevaluate some of my
> > > thinking. That's all for now, but that's quite a
> > > bit. Hope we have more
> > > coming. When and if we do, I'll check in. Larry
> > > Ssspoon Witherspoon
> > >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail.
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>
>
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>
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 07:51:19 -0700
> From: "jason grahn" <jgrahn555@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Subaru Legacy -90
>
> From what i understand, even though the air-suspension is really
> comfortable, it's a pain in the @ss to work on, and it does tend to break
> more often-then-not.
>
> Instead of swapping your air-struts to more air-struts, you might want to
> look into a regular strut or even high-performance while your at it. KYB,
> Koni, STi, and Tein all make bolt in struts for our car. Good luck!
>
> Jason
>
>
> >From: "lns" <johnny@lin-net.nu>
> >Reply-To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
> >To: <BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com>
> >Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Subaru Legacy -90
> >Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 11:39:31 +0200
> >
> >Hi all Subaru users,
> >
> >I am new to this list and have a problem i hope to be resolved:
> >i have "air suspensions" (dont know if its called that in english) and
> >first the right one begunn to leak a couple of years ago, that one was
> >replaced with a new, it cost almost 900$ here in sweden, this was not a
> >problem at the time but now the other side have sprong leak, the question
> >is: is it an idea to buy a used? i cant afford a new one right now, what
> >models have the same? is this a normal fault on the Legacy air
suspencion?
> >Will the rear also give in soon? Any sugestions?
> >
> >Lots of questions but thats mainly becuse of the absense of a swedish
> >dealer.
> >
> >
> >Thx
> >/Johnny
>
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