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GF Performance Chips???
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 5:23 am
by oleman77
Was poking around on the good ole internet and came across these performance chips claiming HP gains, better fuel economy, etc...
here's the website:
http://www.gfchips.com/subarulegacy.aspx/
Re: GF Performance Chips???
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 5:27 am
by cj91legss
Subarus don't have an Intake Air Temperature (IAT) Sensor, or at least Mine doesn't
Re: GF Performance Chips???
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:02 am
by mike-tracy
Ver 8-9 STI does. But in general, these "performance" chips simply have a resistor in them (about $0.10 worth) that fools your ecu to thinking the outside air temp is cooler than it really is. Performance gains? Maybe, but nothing your ecu wouldn't provide in the winter anyways. Blowing up your engine? Probably not. Worth it? naw.
Re: GF Performance Chips???
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:14 am
by cj91legss
The more you look into it or think about is, anything that "fools" the ecu into thinking something that is happening really isnt doesnt seem like a good idea...
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Re: GF Performance Chips???
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:19 am
by kimokalihi
Word to your mother.
Re: GF Performance Chips???
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:11 pm
by MConte05
cj91legss wrote:Subarus don't have an Intake Air Temperature (IAT) Sensor, or at least Mine doesn't
Yes they do. It is incorporated into the MAF sensor. The newer JDM STi's have a seperate IAT sensor in the manifold to calculate TRUE air temp before entering the cylinders after the turbo has heated, and then the intercooler has cooled the air. Otherwise all Subarus IAT are monitored through the MAF sensor.
Re: GF Performance Chips???
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 5:44 pm
by macipusy
That is all MAF based Subarus....my 2001 RS is a speed density based system and has to have IAT and MAP sensor to work.
Re: GF Performance Chips???
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:06 pm
by cj91legss
Well then, I stand corrected.....
Re: GF Performance Chips???
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:49 pm
by Legacy777
The simply answer is don't even bother with this.
The newer MAF's have an IAT built in. The older MAF's like in our cars don't have the ability to directly measure air temperature. There may be some calculations you can do that may allow you to work into the air temp from the "back side", but I haven't run across anything like that.
Re: GF Performance Chips???
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:13 am
by oleman77
Cool, thanks fella's. I figured it was something like that....too good to be true.....
Re: GF Performance Chips???
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:45 am
by James614
If you could actually gain 30hp on an N/A 4cyl for $70 and no mechanical changes, it would be the most popular mod in history.
Re: GF Performance Chips???
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:49 am
by oleman77
no doubt....