Injectors 2 & 3 not firing.... wtf? RESOLVED: ECU
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 11:23 pm
EDIT: RESOLVED 6/7/2013 -- it was my ECU. Swapped in a spare turbo manual ECU from my '91 (since it's getting a WRX engine soon anyway) and BAM! Fired right up.
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So, I took my car in this Monday to have the timing belt, tensioner, idlers, water pump, oil pump, cam / crank seals, and thermostat replaced. (side note: timing belt was about to let go! Teeth ripping off, all cracked to hell... I did this just in time!)
It took an extra couple days because:
1) My water pump on this '94 is apparently the WRX pump. I had thought only the pre-facelift Legacies got the WRX pump. So did my mechanic; so we had to wait for the right part to come in.
2) The helicoil repair that my friend and I did several years back (see thread: http://bbs.legacycentral.org/viewtopic. ... 4&p=103662, 6 posts down) was not going to be good for another timing belt service interval; the 2nd helicoil was skewing the bolt as it went in. Luckily, the destroyed bolt hole I thought was part of the block is actually just a part of a bracket that we could replace! So, he got a replacement from Subaru and installed it. Sweet! Ran about $130 for this bracket replacement (for the tensioner bolt hole). I can ask him for a part # if anyone is interested.
3) He had it all together this morning and ready to go, except that for some strange reason - Injectors #2 and #3 are not getting any pulse width whatsoever.
a) Injectors #1 and #4 are receiving pulse width; cylinders #2 and #3 are just flooding out.
b) All 4 cylinders are getting spark
c) He has gone back in and verified that the timing is all correct. He knows Subarus and I tend to believe him on this point.
He says that the PCM (ECU?) grounds the circuit as it signals the injector pulse (I believe this is what he said, I'm terrible at deciphering my own notes lol). The left cam has a gear for the cam sensor on the back of it; does the right cam gear have anything with regards to the cam sensor?
He mentioned that, typically, the cam sensor will control spark and the crank sensor will control injector pulse width (or vice versa).
I'm wondering, does anyone have experience with this sort of thing? Can someone shed light on this situation? I think I'm racking up many more charges as he troubleshoots and I'd like to provide some helpful insight to possibly reduce said expenses.
Any idea if the cam or crank sensor is responsible for our injector pulse control? Or any other ideas? Car was running just fine before the timing operation... but if a sensor has gone bad for some reason I gotta have it replaced...
Thanks in advance!
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So, I took my car in this Monday to have the timing belt, tensioner, idlers, water pump, oil pump, cam / crank seals, and thermostat replaced. (side note: timing belt was about to let go! Teeth ripping off, all cracked to hell... I did this just in time!)
It took an extra couple days because:
1) My water pump on this '94 is apparently the WRX pump. I had thought only the pre-facelift Legacies got the WRX pump. So did my mechanic; so we had to wait for the right part to come in.
2) The helicoil repair that my friend and I did several years back (see thread: http://bbs.legacycentral.org/viewtopic. ... 4&p=103662, 6 posts down) was not going to be good for another timing belt service interval; the 2nd helicoil was skewing the bolt as it went in. Luckily, the destroyed bolt hole I thought was part of the block is actually just a part of a bracket that we could replace! So, he got a replacement from Subaru and installed it. Sweet! Ran about $130 for this bracket replacement (for the tensioner bolt hole). I can ask him for a part # if anyone is interested.
3) He had it all together this morning and ready to go, except that for some strange reason - Injectors #2 and #3 are not getting any pulse width whatsoever.
a) Injectors #1 and #4 are receiving pulse width; cylinders #2 and #3 are just flooding out.
b) All 4 cylinders are getting spark
c) He has gone back in and verified that the timing is all correct. He knows Subarus and I tend to believe him on this point.
He says that the PCM (ECU?) grounds the circuit as it signals the injector pulse (I believe this is what he said, I'm terrible at deciphering my own notes lol). The left cam has a gear for the cam sensor on the back of it; does the right cam gear have anything with regards to the cam sensor?
He mentioned that, typically, the cam sensor will control spark and the crank sensor will control injector pulse width (or vice versa).
I'm wondering, does anyone have experience with this sort of thing? Can someone shed light on this situation? I think I'm racking up many more charges as he troubleshoots and I'd like to provide some helpful insight to possibly reduce said expenses.
Any idea if the cam or crank sensor is responsible for our injector pulse control? Or any other ideas? Car was running just fine before the timing operation... but if a sensor has gone bad for some reason I gotta have it replaced...
Thanks in advance!