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Ideas for stronger axles?

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 9:25 pm
by thewaterboy
So this keeps happening

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Its a RWD swapped SS running a welded WRX rear end and WRX axles.

What do people run for stronger axles? I know STi stuff is a little stronger, but, im not sure those will hold up either...

Re: Ideas for stronger axles?

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 10:46 pm
by mike-tracy
I think bmxkelowna eventually went r180 axles and diff. Why not skip a whole size and go r200 from a skyline or z32 300zx? You know those will hold up. Main benefit of the r180 setup is no major modification I suppose, just a matter of swapping the right hubs and brakes to support it.

Re: Ideas for stronger axles?

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 1:43 am
by SILINC3R
Damn, lugs snapped too? Looks like the car made it out alive.

Re: Ideas for stronger axles?

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 2:06 am
by thewaterboy
Nope, lugs and rotor were still bolted to the wheel. The wheel bearing also shattered. Were thinking a 300zx rear diff and axles are a good idea. You can get the hubs machined out to accept 300zx things fairly easily.

Re: Ideas for stronger axles?

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 9:28 am
by thewaterboy
Also, mike, from what I've been reading you can swap an R180 directly into a leggy with the use of Legacy GT-B axles. Apparently they have R180 inner and R160 outer CV's straight from the factory. This car might become mine soon, and if so, that swap will happen.

Re: Ideas for stronger axles?

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 1:55 pm
by mike-tracy
Unless something changed, those were basically unobtanium. Plus... You're taking about keeping the weaker hubs.

Re: Ideas for stronger axles?

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 6:28 pm
by robertpaige
Is the rear end welded?

Re: Ideas for stronger axles?

Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 2:31 am
by thewaterboy
Yes it is

Re: Ideas for stronger axles?

Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 8:28 pm
by jamal
I would think the bearing housings in the uprights are trashed/out of round after something like that, which is only going to accelerate bearing wear and possibly cause it to happen more often.

I'd probably start by trying to find a new set of uprights and see if it lasts longer.

R180 swap requires new uprights also plus different brakes, and the axles are a little too long so you'd want wider lateral links too. Plus it is an actual LSD and you wouldn't have the high stresses of a welded diff.

The DSS upgrade kit for an R160 with upgrade hubs that drop into the stock uprights is A LOT:
http://www.driveshaftshop.com/import-ax ... le-hub-kit

Re: Ideas for stronger axles?

Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 3:56 am
by James614
Is there a specific year GT-B that has those axles, or was it a specific option? They aren't that uncommon.

Re: Ideas for stronger axles?

Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:02 am
by thewaterboy
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Re: Ideas for stronger axles?

Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:05 am
by James614
Oh, you mean the LGT Spec B. I thought you were talking about the BD/BK Legacy GT-B.

Re: Ideas for stronger axles?

Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:33 am
by mike-tracy
If I got the part numbers right, the GT-B axles are $350/each through subaru genuine parts. Maybe you could get them a bit cheaper through carparts.com.

I came up with 28421AG03A and 28421AG03B. Subarugenuineparts.com calls them driveshafts, though I verified those #'s are in fact axles for a 6mt Legacy 2.5GT. You should verify before buying part#'s based on what "some guy on the internet" said ;).

I still think keeping the weaker r160 hubs (and hence, bearings) is a bad idea though.

Re: Ideas for stronger axles?

Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 5:12 am
by thewaterboy
http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/searc ... ake=Subaru

Looks like $70/ea at oreilly's!

We'll see how it all turns out. Nothing is happening soon, since we're broke and all...

Re: Ideas for stronger axles?

Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 7:03 am
by mike-tracy
thewaterboy wrote:http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/searc ... ake=Subaru

Looks like $70/ea at oreilly's!

We'll see how it all turns out. Nothing is happening soon, since we're broke and all...

That's cheap enough that I might swap a 4.44 r180 diffy that originally came with my STI RA 5mt tranny! But you know those axles won't last. :( CCR Rebuilders out of Colorado do a really good job, so I've heard.

Re: Ideas for stronger axles?

Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:12 pm
by Legacy777
I have used http://cvaxles.com as well with good success and yes the autoparts store axles will not last!

http://bbs.legacycentral.org/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=40105