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Emission system mods, turbo

Posted: Sun May 20, 2001 4:18 am
by Rod
Hi group,
Purpose of this : to stop oily, blow-by gases getting into the air let.
-General Description (diagram attached) of workings, normally.....

At part or nil throttle, the blow-by gas in the crankcase is drawn into the inlet manifold through the connecting hoses and PCV valve by strong vacuum in the inlet manifold (strong vacuum opens the PCV valve). Under these conditions, fresh air is introduced into both the rocker covers via the air inlet duct and connecting hoses. The crankcase (blow-by)gases, mixed with the fresh air, are drawn through the hoses, PCV valve and into the inlet manifold.
At open throttle, under turbo boost, positive pressure is created in the inlet MANIFOLD ,ie. the inlet MANIFOLD has no vacuum and hence the PCV valve is shut. Instead, the turbocharger asking for maximum air, is creating a kind of vacuum in the air inlet ducting.
Under these conditions the system works in reverse. Blow-by gases are drawn into the air intake duct via the rocker cover hoses and hose off the crankcase, prior to the PCV valve (shown in diagram below).
During these conditions, the inlet air being fed is not 100% fresh air but a mixture of fresh air and blow-by gases. This also leaves an oily film, over time, in the inlet ducting, turbo and intercooler.
100% fresh air would be a better alternitive.
What I did.....
1. The hoses from the both the rocker covers come together as one and lead to the air inlet duct. I have pulled this hose out and plugged the hole in the air inlet duct. On the end of the pulled out hose, I have fitted an oil foamed filter, a mini version of a uni-fliter if you like. Now the system can draw fresh air into the rocker covers whenever required but will not allow blow-by gaes to be drawn into the air inlet duct. It now 'breathes'. This is similar to the pre-emission days when engines used to 'breathe' through the rocker cover oil filler cap.
2. There is another hose that links from the air inlet duct, to the crankcase hose and PCV valve. (see diagram) I have plugged the section leading from the air inlet duct. This now allows crankcase vapours to be drawn in the inlet MANIFOLD via the PCV valve but stops the crankcase vapours being drawn into the air inlet DUCTING. This is now 'one-way' if you like.
I realize this is not allowed under emission control laws but the only thing that can be visually seen is the tiny foam air filter. I plan to hide this.
This must make a difference as the airflow meter now has the exact amount of air entering the engine, as is couldn't know what was being drawn in through the blow-by hoses. Physically I noticed that the chrome tailpipes on the rear muffler are not 'sooting' up as much.. if at all.
I also removed the air ducting / intercooler and cleaned the oily film off everything and it is still spotless. I have been running like this now for 2 months.
Any comments please. I'm interested to know what you guy's think.
Regards, Rod

Emission system Turbo




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Emission system mods, turbo

Posted: Sun May 20, 2001 1:20 pm
by Dave C
I think Matt S. did something similar to this late last year. He
found a noticeable amount of oil in the system and decided to do
something about it.

If you're using a breather, you're not really allowing any oily
gasses to get out, only a bare minimum will escape. At least in my
state, no one really looks quite that close.

--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "Rod" <melrod@o...> wrote:
> Hi group,
> Purpose of this : to stop oily, blow-by gases getting into the air
let.
> -General Description (diagram attached) of workings, normally.....
>
> At part or nil throttle, the blow-by gas in the crankcase is drawn
into the inlet manifold through the connecting hoses and PCV valve by
strong vacuum in the inlet manifold (strong vacuum opens the PCV
valve). Under these conditions, fresh air is introduced into both the
rocker covers via the air inlet duct and connecting hoses. The
crankcase (blow-by)gases, mixed with the fresh air, are drawn through
the hoses, PCV valve and into the inlet manifold.
> At open throttle, under turbo boost, positive pressure is created
in the inlet MANIFOLD ,ie. the inlet MANIFOLD has no vacuum and hence
the PCV valve is shut. Instead, the turbocharger asking for maximum
air, is creating a kind of vacuum in the air inlet ducting.
> Under these conditions the system works in reverse. Blow-by gases
are drawn into the air intake duct via the rocker cover hoses and
hose off the crankcase, prior to the PCV valve (shown in diagram
below).
> During these conditions, the inlet air being fed is not 100% fresh
air but a mixture of fresh air and blow-by gases. This also leaves an
oily film, over time, in the inlet ducting, turbo and intercooler.
> 100% fresh air would be a better alternitive.
> What I did.....
> 1. The hoses from the both the rocker covers come together as one
and lead to the air inlet duct. I have pulled this hose out and
plugged the hole in the air inlet duct. On the end of the pulled out
hose, I have fitted an oil foamed filter, a mini version of a uni-
fliter if you like. Now the system can draw fresh air into the rocker
covers whenever required but will not allow blow-by gaes to be drawn
into the air inlet duct. It now 'breathes'. This is similar to the
pre-emission days when engines used to 'breathe' through the rocker
cover oil filler cap.
> 2. There is another hose that links from the air inlet duct, to the
crankcase hose and PCV valve. (see diagram) I have plugged the
section leading from the air inlet duct. This now allows crankcase
vapours to be drawn in the inlet MANIFOLD via the PCV valve but stops
the crankcase vapours being drawn into the air inlet DUCTING. This is
now 'one-way' if you like.
> I realize this is not allowed under emission control laws but the
only thing that can be visually seen is the tiny foam air filter. I
plan to hide this.
> This must make a difference as the airflow meter now has the exact
amount of air entering the engine, as is couldn't know what was being
drawn in through the blow-by hoses. Physically I noticed that the
chrome tailpipes on the rear muffler are not 'sooting' up as much..
if at all.
> I also removed the air ducting / intercooler and cleaned the oily
film off everything and it is still spotless. I have been running
like this now for 2 months.
> Any comments please. I'm interested to know what you guy's think.
> Regards, Rod
>
> Emission system Turbo


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Emission system mods, turbo

Posted: Sun May 20, 2001 6:58 pm
by Rod
Dave,
yes, thats right. Over the last few months of being setup this way, i have
not cleaned the tiny foam filter which 'breathes'.
Rod
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave C" <legacycentral@yahoo.com>
To: <BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 3:19 AM
Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Emission system mods, turbo


> I think Matt S. did something similar to this late last year. He
> found a noticeable amount of oil in the system and decided to do
> something about it.
>
> If you're using a breather, you're not really allowing any oily
> gasses to get out, only a bare minimum will escape. At least in my
> state, no one really looks quite that close.
>
> --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "Rod" <melrod@o...> wrote:
> > Hi group,
> > Purpose of this : to stop oily, blow-by gases getting into the air
> let.
> > -General Description (diagram attached) of workings, normally.....
> >
> > At part or nil throttle, the blow-by gas in the crankcase is drawn
> into the inlet manifold through the connecting hoses and PCV valve by
> strong vacuum in the inlet manifold (strong vacuum opens the PCV
> valve). Under these conditions, fresh air is introduced into both the
> rocker covers via the air inlet duct and connecting hoses. The
> crankcase (blow-by)gases, mixed with the fresh air, are drawn through
> the hoses, PCV valve and into the inlet manifold.
> > At open throttle, under turbo boost, positive pressure is created
> in the inlet MANIFOLD ,ie. the inlet MANIFOLD has no vacuum and hence
> the PCV valve is shut. Instead, the turbocharger asking for maximum
> air, is creating a kind of vacuum in the air inlet ducting.
> > Under these conditions the system works in reverse. Blow-by gases
> are drawn into the air intake duct via the rocker cover hoses and
> hose off the crankcase, prior to the PCV valve (shown in diagram
> below).
> > During these conditions, the inlet air being fed is not 100% fresh
> air but a mixture of fresh air and blow-by gases. This also leaves an
> oily film, over time, in the inlet ducting, turbo and intercooler.
> > 100% fresh air would be a better alternitive.
> > What I did.....
> > 1. The hoses from the both the rocker covers come together as one
> and lead to the air inlet duct. I have pulled this hose out and
> plugged the hole in the air inlet duct. On the end of the pulled out
> hose, I have fitted an oil foamed filter, a mini version of a uni-
> fliter if you like. Now the system can draw fresh air into the rocker
> covers whenever required but will not allow blow-by gaes to be drawn
> into the air inlet duct. It now 'breathes'. This is similar to the
> pre-emission days when engines used to 'breathe' through the rocker
> cover oil filler cap.
> > 2. There is another hose that links from the air inlet duct, to the
> crankcase hose and PCV valve. (see diagram) I have plugged the
> section leading from the air inlet duct. This now allows crankcase
> vapours to be drawn in the inlet MANIFOLD via the PCV valve but stops
> the crankcase vapours being drawn into the air inlet DUCTING. This is
> now 'one-way' if you like.
> > I realize this is not allowed under emission control laws but the
> only thing that can be visually seen is the tiny foam air filter. I
> plan to hide this.
> > This must make a difference as the airflow meter now has the exact
> amount of air entering the engine, as is couldn't know what was being
> drawn in through the blow-by hoses. Physically I noticed that the
> chrome tailpipes on the rear muffler are not 'sooting' up as much..
> if at all.
> > I also removed the air ducting / intercooler and cleaned the oily
> film off everything and it is still spotless. I have been running
> like this now for 2 months.
> > Any comments please. I'm interested to know what you guy's think.
> > Regards, Rod
> >
> > Emission system Turbo
>
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2001 11:08 pm
by Bill Covert
I did the same thing long ago. No problems,and no oil drool from the spot where the hoses enter the intake piping.
BillC

----- Original Message -----
From: Rod <mailto:melrod@optusnet.com.au>
To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com ; wrx@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 4:16 AM
Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Emission system mods, turbo

Hi group,
Purpose of this : to stop oily, blow-by gases getting into the air let.
-General Description (diagram attached) of workings, normally.....

At part or nil throttle, the blow-by gas in the crankcase is drawn into the inlet manifold through the connecting hoses and PCV valve by strong vacuum in the inlet manifold (strong vacuum opens the PCV valve). Under these conditions, fresh air is introduced into both the rocker covers via the air inlet duct and connecting hoses. The crankcase (blow-by)gases, mixed with the fresh air, are drawn through the hoses, PCV valve and into the inlet manifold.
At open throttle, under turbo boost, positive pressure is created in the inlet MANIFOLD ,ie. the inlet MANIFOLD has no vacuum and hence the PCV valve is shut. Instead, the turbocharger asking for maximum air, is creating a kind of vacuum in the air inlet ducting.
Under these conditions the system works in reverse. Blow-by gases are drawn into the air intake duct via the rocker cover hoses and hose off the crankcase, prior to the PCV valve (shown in diagram below).
During these conditions, the inlet air being fed is not 100% fresh air but a mixture of fresh air and blow-by gases. This also leaves an oily film, over time, in the inlet ducting, turbo and intercooler.
100% fresh air would be a better alternitive.
What I did.....
1. The hoses from the both the rocker covers come together as one and lead to the air inlet duct. I have pulled this hose out and plugged the hole in the air inlet duct. On the end of the pulled out hose, I have fitted an oil foamed filter, a mini version of a uni-fliter if you like. Now the system can draw fresh air into the rocker covers whenever required but will not allow blow-by gaes to be drawn into the air inlet duct. It now 'breathes'. This is similar to the pre-emission days when engines used to 'breathe' through the rocker cover oil filler cap.
2. There is another hose that links from the air inlet duct, to the crankcase hose and PCV valve. (see diagram) I have plugged the section leading from the air inlet duct. This now allows crankcase vapours to be drawn in the inlet MANIFOLD via the PCV valve but stops the crankcase vapours being drawn into the air inlet DUCTING. This is now 'one-way' if you like.
I realize this is not allowed under emission control laws but the only thing that can be visually seen is the tiny foam air filter. I plan to hide this.
This must make a difference as the airflow meter now has the exact amount of air entering the engine, as is couldn't know what was being drawn in through the blow-by hoses. Physically I noticed that the chrome tailpipes on the rear muffler are not 'sooting' up as much.. if at all.
I also removed the air ducting / intercooler and cleaned the oily film off everything and it is still spotless. I have been running like this now for 2 months.
Any comments please. I'm interested to know what you guy's think.
Regards, Rod

Emission system Turbo

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