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20g vs 25d intake manifold

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:20 pm
by 91Legacyresto
Just wondering if anyone knows how well the 20g intake manifold flows compared to the 25d manifold??? My current setup is a 22e/25d hybrid, yellow top injectors, vf48 turbo, speedyefi standalone ecu, and ive got her tuned on 16psi right now. Just wondering if i would gain any benefits from the 20g manifold over the 25d. Boost comes on quickly, but i seem to loose boost gradually about 2-2.5psi from 5500-7000rpm where i have my redline set. I normally shift at 6500...but for those occasional street runs, the extra 500rpm makes a big difference between shifts Image

Any input from those that have experience with both or either one would be appreciated Image ImageImage

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Re: 20g vs 25d intake manifold

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 8:16 pm
by Legacy777
I unfortunately don't have any direct experience.

However, any chance you have a 25d and 20g intake manifold you could setup a flow test with? You could use a shop vac with the hose on the exhaust end and hook it up to the throttle body. You'd need to setup a manometer of some sorts with tubing and liquid to measure the pressure drop from the throttle body to the outlet of the intake runners.

Out of curiosity, how are you controlling your boost, MBC, EBC?

Re: 20g vs 25d intake manifold

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:12 pm
by 91Legacyresto
Thats an idea i might have to actually try out. I just found out yesterday its actually a 20k heads and manifold my buddy has in his hands. Im trying to convince him to let me buy it them lmao.

Otherwise in the mean time. It looks like JUN is the only company making 20k cams which should fit the 25d heads if im not mistaken. I was gunna try to take valve spring/seat/retainer/lock measurements and find a set to upgrade on the 25d heads to raise its rpm limit. As well try to convert to shimless buckets. Oem 20k parts are hard to find and come by at all. Then to top it all off i want to pnp the intake manifold.

Im controlling my boost through a Grimmspeed MBC. Little thing works great too. I didnt want a super cheap ebay mbc and so far im happy with the Grimmspeed unit.

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Re: 20g vs 25d intake manifold

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 9:00 pm
by Legacy777
Keep us posted if you decide to do some testing.

If you're losing boost towards redline when load is increasing have you considered it could be your turbo running out of air to maintain pressure? Have you looked at the compressor map for that turbo to see where you're running on it?

Re: 20g vs 25d intake manifold

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 9:21 pm
by Mister Anderson
Legacy777 wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 8:16 pm I unfortunately don't have any direct experience.

However, any chance you have a 25d and 20g intake manifold you could setup a flow test with? You could use a shop vac with the hose on the exhaust end and hook it up to the throttle body. You'd need to setup a manometer of some sorts with tubing and liquid to measure the pressure drop from the throttle body to the outlet of the intake runners.

Out of curiosity, how are you controlling your boost, MBC, EBC?
Hey, Legacy777

I know this is an older post, but I have a spare unmodified v1/v2 EJ20G intake and a 25D intake. I’ll see if I can get some flow numbers comparing the two. The other 20G intake I have is ported, but it’s on the car currently. If I take that one off at some point I’ll flow test it.

As for the OP, Supertech still makes springs, and correct valves. I can give the part numbers on them. My buddy is currently rebuilding a set of 20K heads so I looked it up a few weeks ago. As for the cams, I have Kelford EJ20k V3/4 272’s. They are somewhat drop in. You have to machine the bucket bores on the head to clear the cam lobes. I would imagine the bigger Jun came would also require this. Currently, the Kelford cams are NLA.

Re: 20g vs 25d intake manifold

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 6:49 pm
by Legacy777
Mister Anderson wrote: Mon Sep 13, 2021 9:21 pm
Hey, Legacy777

I know this is an older post, but I have a spare unmodified v1/v2 EJ20G intake and a 25D intake. I’ll see if I can get some flow numbers comparing the two. The other 20G intake I have is ported, but it’s on the car currently. If I take that one off at some point I’ll flow test it.

That'd be great to see what you find out. Definitely keep us updated on what you find.

Thanks!