Supercharger on 2.2T block

vwsyncroguy · Post by **vwsyncroguy** » Mon Jan 21, 2002 1:49 am

Has anyone out there have any experience with supercharged (rather
than turboed) 2.2L's.

I am interested in the supercharger vs. turbo for the immediate
throttle response (no turbo lag) and less heat in the engine
compartment.

My goal is significantly more pulling power at lower rpm. I am
seriously considering using the great 2.2T (for all its extra
strength, oiling and cooling designed for turbocharging) and a small
Eaton supercharger. At least one of the Subaru engine suppliers to
the airplane crowd is putting one on a 2.5L.

I know that Rimmer has done some work with this but they seem to be
pretty silent about it lately and I've never seen any info or a write-
up on one of their installations.

Appreciate any leads for feedback and experience.

Warren C.

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Doug Hancock · Post by **Doug Hancock** » Mon Jan 21, 2002 4:08 am

If you want to pay for a kit that bolts straight on and willing to pay
postage I will find the site for you.

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Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Supercharger on 2.2T block

Has anyone out there have any experience with supercharged (rather
than turboed) 2.2L's.

I am interested in the supercharger vs. turbo for the immediate
throttle response (no turbo lag) and less heat in the engine
compartment.

My goal is significantly more pulling power at lower rpm. I am
seriously considering using the great 2.2T (for all its extra
strength, oiling and cooling designed for turbocharging) and a small
Eaton supercharger. At least one of the Subaru engine suppliers to
the airplane crowd is putting one on a 2.5L.

I know that Rimmer has done some work with this but they seem to be
pretty silent about it lately and I've never seen any info or a write-
up on one of their installations.

Appreciate any leads for feedback and experience.

Warren C.

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ob1poor · Post by **ob1poor** » Mon Jan 21, 2002 9:26 am

would it be possible to actually mount a supercharger while keeping
the stock turbo? anyone have any ideas on pros vs. cons on that?

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pay
> postage I will find the site for you.
>
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> Sent: Monday, 21 January 2002 5:43 PM
> To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
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>
>
>
> Has anyone out there have any experience with supercharged (rather
> than turboed) 2.2L's.
>
> I am interested in the supercharger vs. turbo for the immediate
> throttle response (no turbo lag) and less heat in the engine
> compartment.
>
> My goal is significantly more pulling power at lower rpm. I am
> seriously considering using the great 2.2T (for all its extra
> strength, oiling and cooling designed for turbocharging) and a small
> Eaton supercharger. At least one of the Subaru engine suppliers to
> the airplane crowd is putting one on a 2.5L.
>
> I know that Rimmer has done some work with this but they seem to be
> pretty silent about it lately and I've never seen any info or a
write-
> up on one of their installations.
>
> Appreciate any leads for feedback and experience.
>
> Warren C.
>
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vwsyncroguy · Post by **vwsyncroguy** » Mon Jan 21, 2002 12:06 pm

--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "Doug Hancock" <Doug_hancock@o...>
wrote:
> If you want to pay for a kit that bolts straight on and willing to
pay
> postage I will find the site for you.
>
>

Thanks Doug,

Appreciate any help you can give.

I have found aftermarket interest in performance tuning the 2.2L to
be hard to find. Lots of stuff for the WRX 2.0L or the previous
2.5RS.

Who are you referring to.....Rimmer or someone else?

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legacycentral · Post by **legacycentral** » Mon Jan 21, 2002 12:06 pm

There is a company down under that makes these, a guy on my "Member"
page even has one:

http://www.xmission.com/~dac/centric/members/troy.htm

Dave

--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "vwsyncroguy" <vwsyncroguy@y...> wrote:
>
>
> Has anyone out there have any experience with supercharged (rather
> than turboed) 2.2L's.
>
> I am interested in the supercharger vs. turbo for the immediate
> throttle response (no turbo lag) and less heat in the engine
> compartment.
>
> My goal is significantly more pulling power at lower rpm. I am
> seriously considering using the great 2.2T (for all its extra
> strength, oiling and cooling designed for turbocharging) and a
small
> Eaton supercharger. At least one of the Subaru engine suppliers to
> the airplane crowd is putting one on a 2.5L.
>
> I know that Rimmer has done some work with this but they seem to be
> pretty silent about it lately and I've never seen any info or a
write-
> up on one of their installations.
>
> Appreciate any leads for feedback and experience.
>
> Warren C.

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vwsyncroguy · Post by **vwsyncroguy** » Mon Jan 21, 2002 1:56 pm

--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "legacycentral" <legacycentral@y...>
wrote:
> There is a company down under that makes these, a guy on
my "Member"
> page even has one:
>
> http://www.xmission.com/~dac/centric/members/troy.htm
>
> Dave
>

Dave,

This looks like what I'm looking for. Can you put me in touch with
the guy in you group that has it and/or the company that does it.

Thanks,

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legacycentral · Post by **legacycentral** » Mon Jan 21, 2002 3:36 pm

I'll see if i can find the address, it's been a while.

The place is out of Australia or New Zealand, and it used to be easy
to find it before Jeep released that stupid Liberty...

Dave

> Dave,
>
> This looks like what I'm looking for. Can you put me in touch with
> the guy in you group that has it and/or the company that does it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Warren C.

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milehial2000 · Post by **milehial2000** » Mon Jan 21, 2002 8:55 pm

We installed a supercharger on a SVX engine in a Legacy that came off
of a Mazda Millinia. It was a Whipple type rotary vane unit. It turned
out to be very loud and boost was hard to control and was eventually
removed. Some time ago the Rimmer engineering unit was supposed to be
made available to us and I can check on it if you would like. I saw
that Vortech had a belt drive supercharger that would fit the Subaru
in a magazine and talked with them and also talked to Gates Rubber in
Denver and they said they are making belts for it that would would
last a lot longer than the ordinary belts but I think it still comes
down to how do you control boost ?

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> I'll see if i can find the address, it's been a while.
>
> The place is out of Australia or New Zealand, and it used to be easy
> to find it before Jeep released that stupid Liberty...
>
> Dave
>
> > Dave,
> >
> > This looks like what I'm looking for. Can you put me in touch
with
> > the guy in you group that has it and/or the company that does it.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Warren C.

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Grant Hughes · Post by **Grant Hughes** » Tue Jan 22, 2002 12:25 am

I've just started working at a John Elway Subaru
Dealership in Denver and they have officially
announced that they are releasing a version of the
STX, a concept car from almost two years ago that they
are going to call the Subaru Baja. Basically it is
going to be like an Outback but in a truck style
(remember the Brat). The thing that relates to your
question about the supercharger is that it is going to
be the same 2.5L/4 cyl. engine as in the Outback but
super charged and intercooled to 230hp. I would
imagine that this same supercharger could be applied
to an older 2.2 engine but I'm not an expert and I
don't know the avab. on getting the actual parts but a
call to your local Subaru parts dealer might be able
to get some more info. www.subaru.com has a link to a
specs page on the Baja for anyone who might be
interested.
Grant
--- vwsyncroguy <vwsyncroguy@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Has anyone out there have any experience with
> supercharged (rather
> than turboed) 2.2L's.
>
> I am interested in the supercharger vs. turbo for
> the immediate
> throttle response (no turbo lag) and less heat in
> the engine
> compartment.
>
> My goal is significantly more pulling power at lower
> rpm. I am
> seriously considering using the great 2.2T (for all
> its extra
> strength, oiling and cooling designed for
> turbocharging) and a small
> Eaton supercharger. At least one of the Subaru
> engine suppliers to
> the airplane crowd is putting one on a 2.5L.
>
> I know that Rimmer has done some work with this but
> they seem to be
> pretty silent about it lately and I've never seen
> any info or a write-
> up on one of their installations.
>
> Appreciate any leads for feedback and experience.
>
> Warren C.
>
>

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Doug Hancock · Post by **Doug Hancock** » Tue Jan 22, 2002 6:45 am

Well here it is the address for the super charger kit.

http://www.capa.com.au/

Just go to super charger kits then to the subaru liberty an bob's your
uncle. The car is actuly a 94 - 98 model but still 2.2.

Regards Doug
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Josh Colombo · Post by **Josh Colombo** » Tue Jan 22, 2002 7:35 am

Grant,

That was the original plan for the motor. Subaru put a design firm on hurts because they delayed the project. Now, there is going to be no supercharger, same ol' 2.5l 4 cylinder.

You can check out the baja at www.subarubaja.com Personally....it looks like a piece of plastic shit....just like the avalanche....me thinks GM got their mits on the design. If it didn't have the stupid plastic cladding up SOO HIGH.....it wouldn't be bad at all, plus if it was painted all one color, that'd be even better, and it wouldn't look so stupid. Just my thoughts.....I'll get off my soapbox.

Josh

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-----Original Message-----
From: Grant Hughes [mailto:grantsubaru@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 11:21 PM
To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Supercharger on 2.2T block

I've just started working at a John Elway Subaru
Dealership in Denver and they have officially
announced that they are releasing a version of the
STX, a concept car from almost two years ago that they
are going to call the Subaru Baja. Basically it is
going to be like an Outback but in a truck style
(remember the Brat). The thing that relates to your
question about the supercharger is that it is going to
be the same 2.5L/4 cyl. engine as in the Outback but
super charged and intercooled to 230hp. I would
imagine that this same supercharger could be applied
to an older 2.2 engine but I'm not an expert and I
don't know the avab. on getting the actual parts but a
call to your local Subaru parts dealer might be able
to get some more info. www.subaru.com has a link to a
specs page on the Baja for anyone who might be
interested.
Grant
--- vwsyncroguy <vwsyncroguy@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Has anyone out there have any experience with
> supercharged (rather
> than turboed) 2.2L's.
>
> I am interested in the supercharger vs. turbo for
> the immediate
> throttle response (no turbo lag) and less heat in
> the engine
> compartment.
>
> My goal is significantly more pulling power at lower
> rpm. I am
> seriously considering using the great 2.2T (for all
> its extra
> strength, oiling and cooling designed for
> turbocharging) and a small
> Eaton supercharger. At least one of the Subaru
> engine suppliers to
> the airplane crowd is putting one on a 2.5L.
>
> I know that Rimmer has done some work with this but
> they seem to be
> pretty silent about it lately and I've never seen
> any info or a write-
> up on one of their installations.
>
> Appreciate any leads for feedback and experience.
>
> Warren C.
>
>

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milehial2000 · Post by **milehial2000** » Tue Jan 22, 2002 8:35 am

The supercharger looks pretty nice and it looks like it would be a
setup where we could use an intercooler idea we have on the back shelf
for some reason and I think that reason might be that Rimmer never
supplied the supercharger to us. We have the manifold machined and the
two intercoolers, one for each head. They run just above the top of
the head and this looks like it would work well.
AL(CO)

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> Well here it is the address for the super charger kit.
>
> http://www.capa.com.au/
>
> Just go to super charger kits then to the subaru liberty an bob's
your
> uncle. The car is actuly a 94 - 98 model but still 2.2.
>
> Regards Doug
> Newcastle (Australia)

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Rod Grosvenor · Post by **Rod Grosvenor** » Tue Jan 22, 2002 8:35 am

Josh-I have to agree. But, you know what`s most disturbing? The Avalanche won a truck-of-the-year award & most 18-35-year-olds like the design!!! Are we just old before our time??? (Ican say that @ 57.) I think you`re right about the GM influence as the Baja is a "baby" version of the same truck. Oh well, those of us with good taste will stick to our Legacies. Too bad about the supercharger, though. It would have been nice to be in the Subaru parts bin for further consideration. My .50 cents---ROD (STILL IN AZ.)

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Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 5:33 AM
Subject: RE: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Supercharger on 2.2T block

Grant,

That was the original plan for the motor. Subaru put a design firm on hurts because they delayed the project. Now, there is going to be no supercharger, same ol' 2.5l 4 cylinder.

You can check out the baja at www.subarubaja.com Personally....it looks like a piece of plastic shit....just like the avalanche....me thinks GM got their mits on the design. If it didn't have the stupid plastic cladding up SOO HIGH.....it wouldn't be bad at all, plus if it was painted all one color, that'd be even better, and it wouldn't look so stupid. Just my thoughts.....I'll get off my soapbox.

Josh

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-----Original Message-----
From: Grant Hughes [mailto:grantsubaru@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 11:21 PM
To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Supercharger on 2.2T block

I've just started working at a John Elway Subaru
Dealership in Denver and they have officially
announced that they are releasing a version of the
STX, a concept car from almost two years ago that they
are going to call the Subaru Baja. Basically it is
going to be like an Outback but in a truck style
(remember the Brat). The thing that relates to your
question about the supercharger is that it is going to
be the same 2.5L/4 cyl. engine as in the Outback but
super charged and intercooled to 230hp. I would
imagine that this same supercharger could be applied
to an older 2.2 engine but I'm not an expert and I
don't know the avab. on getting the actual parts but a
call to your local Subaru parts dealer might be able
to get some more info. www.subaru.com has a link to a
specs page on the Baja for anyone who might be
interested.
Grant
--- vwsyncroguy <vwsyncroguy@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Has anyone out there have any experience with
> supercharged (rather
> than turboed) 2.2L's.
>
> I am interested in the supercharger vs. turbo for
> the immediate
> throttle response (no turbo lag) and less heat in
> the engine
> compartment.
>
> My goal is significantly more pulling power at lower
> rpm. I am
> seriously considering using the great 2.2T (for all
> its extra
> strength, oiling and cooling designed for
> turbocharging) and a small
> Eaton supercharger. At least one of the Subaru
> engine suppliers to
> the airplane crowd is putting one on a 2.5L.
>
> I know that Rimmer has done some work with this but
> they seem to be
> pretty silent about it lately and I've never seen
> any info or a write-
> up on one of their installations.
>
> Appreciate any leads for feedback and experience.
>
> Warren C.
>
>

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milehial2000 · Post by **milehial2000** » Tue Jan 22, 2002 8:45 am

What dept. do you work in Grant? My brother is serious about a new or
used Subaru after seeing mine.
Al(CO)

--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., Grant Hughes <grantsubaru@y...> wrote:
> I've just started working at a John Elway Subaru
> Dealership in Denver and they have officially
> announced that they are releasing a version of the
> STX, a concept car from almost two years ago that they
> are going to call the Subaru Baja. Basically it is
> going to be like an Outback but in a truck style
> (remember the Brat). The thing that relates to your
> question about the supercharger is that it is going to
> be the same 2.5L/4 cyl. engine as in the Outback but
> super charged and intercooled to 230hp. I would
> imagine that this same supercharger could be applied
> to an older 2.2 engine but I'm not an expert and I
> don't know the avab. on getting the actual parts but a
> call to your local Subaru parts dealer might be able
> to get some more info. www.subaru.com has a link to a
> specs page on the Baja for anyone who might be
> interested.
> Grant
> --- vwsyncroguy <vwsyncroguy@y...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Has anyone out there have any experience with
> > supercharged (rather
> > than turboed) 2.2L's.
> >
> > I am interested in the supercharger vs. turbo for
> > the immediate
> > throttle response (no turbo lag) and less heat in
> > the engine
> > compartment.
> >
> > My goal is significantly more pulling power at lower
> > rpm. I am
> > seriously considering using the great 2.2T (for all
> > its extra
> > strength, oiling and cooling designed for
> > turbocharging) and a small
> > Eaton supercharger. At least one of the Subaru
> > engine suppliers to
> > the airplane crowd is putting one on a 2.5L.
> >
> > I know that Rimmer has done some work with this but
> > they seem to be
> > pretty silent about it lately and I've never seen
> > any info or a write-
> > up on one of their installations.
> >
> > Appreciate any leads for feedback and experience.
> >
> > Warren C.
> >
> >
>
>
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bussaca2@aol.com · Post by **bussaca2@aol.com** » Tue Jan 22, 2002 10:05 am

5,675.85 Australian dollars = 2,944.63 US dollars

If they have all there prices in AUS then for us yanks thats not to shabby.. But at 3 grand isen't that price comapareable to most Turbo kits available?

I will say that the supercharger looks good on that 2.2 in the pics..and with a charger there is no lag, or spool up time, but i thought the rule was chargers are good imediate power ,and leave you hanging aroung 5000rpm as turbos kick in about 3,300rpm and carry you thru 8000rpm

I'm probobly really wrong.. But hey the price is right..

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Josh Colombo · Post by **Josh Colombo** » Tue Jan 22, 2002 11:35 am

I don't know how the stupid avapuck got truck of the year. I'm 22, right in the middle of that age group.....looks like i need to go around and slap some sense into my peers.

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From: Rod Grosvenor [mailto:roderic@cableone.net]
Sent: Tue 1/22/2002 7:33 AM
To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
Cc:
Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Supercharger on 2.2T block

Josh-I have to agree. But, you know what`s most disturbing? The Avalanche won a truck-of-the-year award & most 18-35-year-olds like the design!!! Are we just old before our time??? (Ican say that @ 57.) I think you`re right about the GM influence as the Baja is a "baby" version of the same truck. Oh well, those of us with good taste will stick to our Legacies. Too bad about the supercharger, though. It would have been nice to be in the Subaru parts bin for further consideration. My .50 cents---ROD (STILL IN AZ.)

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From: Josh <mailto:josh@surrealmirage.com> Colombo
To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 5:33 AM
Subject: RE: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Supercharger on 2.2T block

Grant,

That was the original plan for the motor. Subaru put a design firm on hurts because they delayed the project. Now, there is going to be no supercharger, same ol' 2.5l 4 cylinder.

You can check out the baja at www.subarubaja.com Personally....it looks like a piece of plastic shit....just like the avalanche....me thinks GM got their mits on the design. If it didn't have the stupid plastic cladding up SOO HIGH.....it wouldn't be bad at all, plus if it was painted all one color, that'd be even better, and it wouldn't look so stupid. Just my thoughts.....I'll get off my soapbox.

Josh

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-----Original Message-----
From: Grant Hughes [mailto:grantsubaru@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 11:21 PM
To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Supercharger on 2.2T block

I've just started working at a John Elway Subaru
Dealership in Denver and they have officially
announced that they are releasing a version of the
STX, a concept car from almost two years ago that they
are going to call the Subaru Baja. Basically it is
going to be like an Outback but in a truck style
(remember the Brat). The thing that relates to your
question about the supercharger is that it is going to
be the same 2.5L/4 cyl. engine as in the Outback but
super charged and intercooled to 230hp. I would
imagine that this same supercharger could be applied
to an older 2.2 engine but I'm not an expert and I
don't know the avab. on getting the actual parts but a
call to your local Subaru parts dealer might be able
to get some more info. www.subaru.com has a link to a
specs page on the Baja for anyone who might be
interested.
Grant
--- vwsyncroguy <vwsyncroguy@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Has anyone out there have any experience with
> supercharged (rather
> than turboed) 2.2L's.
>
> I am interested in the supercharger vs. turbo for
> the immediate
> throttle response (no turbo lag) and less heat in
> the engine
> compartment.
>
> My goal is significantly more pulling power at lower
> rpm. I am
> seriously considering using the great 2.2T (for all
> its extra
> strength, oiling and cooling designed for
> turbocharging) and a small
> Eaton supercharger. At least one of the Subaru
> engine suppliers to
> the airplane crowd is putting one on a 2.5L.
>
> I know that Rimmer has done some work with this but
> they seem to be
> pretty silent about it lately and I've never seen
> any info or a write-
> up on one of their installations.
>
> Appreciate any leads for feedback and experience.
>
> Warren C.
>
>

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Josh Colombo · Post by **Josh Colombo** » Tue Jan 22, 2002 11:35 am

David,

Forced Air has kits around that price. I'm not sure, but you are probably correct about the when the power kicks in and all that. I guess it sorta depends on what you want.....good low end grunt or top end screamer. You can get some really good turbos that don't have turbo lag too much though.

Josh

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Sent: Tue 1/22/2002 93 AM
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Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Supercharger on 2.2T block

5,675.85 Australian dollars = 2,944.63 US dollars

If they have all there prices in AUS then for us yanks thats not to shabby.. But at 3 grand isen't that price comapareable to most Turbo kits available?

I will say that the supercharger looks good on that 2.2 in the pics..and with a charger there is no lag, or spool up time, but i thought the rule was chargers are good imediate power ,and leave you hanging aroung 5000rpm as turbos kick in about 3,300rpm and carry you thru 8000rpm

I'm probobly really wrong.. But hey the price is right..

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legacycentral · Post by **legacycentral** » Tue Jan 22, 2002 11:55 am

My brother, 21, loves the Avalanche. He told me that he will own
one, to which i basically lambasted him.

Oh well...i am the black sheep. I'm the only one in my family that
doesn't own at least one truck!

Family Trucks: Samurai, Exploder, Passport (x2), Astro van, Chev
1500 SB 4x4 (V6), Dodge RAM 50.

Cars: Legacy Touring Wagon and old-ass Jetta belonging to my
sister-in-law.

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22, right in the middle of that age group.....looks like i need to go
around and slap some sense into my peers.

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Brian White · Post by **Brian White** » Tue Jan 22, 2002 12:55 pm

I am also in the middle of that age segment at 23.
The Avalanche has got to be the most disgusting THING
since the Asstek. I can't believe that they are
selling these monstrosities. Simply amazing. I
especially love the commercial where they're
"rallying" along and they switch the truck to stupid
open cab mode. Where the hell is all that dust/dirt
going to go after they open the cab. They don't show
them after that, but I would imagine it's all over the
inside of that thing. I guess I too should get off
the soapbox. It just amazes me that we, as Americans,
continue to produce such utter garbage. Why can't we
produce anything actually worth DRIVING.

-Brian

--- legacycentral <legacycentral@yahoo.com> wrote:
> My brother, 21, loves the Avalanche. He told me
> that he will own
> one, to which i basically lambasted him.
>
> Oh well...i am the black sheep. I'm the only one in
> my family that
> doesn't own at least one truck!
>
> Family Trucks: Samurai, Exploder, Passport (x2),
> Astro van, Chev
> 1500 SB 4x4 (V6), Dodge RAM 50.
>
> Cars: Legacy Touring Wagon and old-ass Jetta
> belonging to my
> sister-in-law.
>
> --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "Josh Colombo"
> <josh@s...>
> wrote:
> > I don't know how the stupid avapuck got truck of
> the year. I'm
> 22, right in the middle of that age group.....looks
> like i need to go
> around and slap some sense into my peers.
>

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Todd Munson · Post by **Todd Munson** » Tue Jan 22, 2002 2:05 pm

I'd take a Z06....

-T
I agree with your sentiments towards trucks and SUV's, but There are a
few decent domestic rides.

--- Brian White <eastbaysubaru@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I am also in the middle of that age segment at 23.
> The Avalanche has got to be the most disgusting THING
> since the Asstek. I can't believe that they are
> selling these monstrosities. Simply amazing. I
> especially love the commercial where they're
> "rallying" along and they switch the truck to stupid
> open cab mode. Where the hell is all that dust/dirt
> going to go after they open the cab. They don't show
> them after that, but I would imagine it's all over the
> inside of that thing. I guess I too should get off
> the soapbox. It just amazes me that we, as Americans,
> continue to produce such utter garbage. Why can't we
> produce anything actually worth DRIVING.
>
> -Brian
>
> --- legacycentral <legacycentral@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > My brother, 21, loves the Avalanche. He told me
> > that he will own
> > one, to which i basically lambasted him.
> >
> > Oh well...i am the black sheep. I'm the only one in
> > my family that
> > doesn't own at least one truck!
> >
> > Family Trucks: Samurai, Exploder, Passport (x2),
> > Astro van, Chev
> > 1500 SB 4x4 (V6), Dodge RAM 50.
> >
> > Cars: Legacy Touring Wagon and old-ass Jetta
> > belonging to my
> > sister-in-law.
> >
> > --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "Josh Colombo"
> > <josh@s...>
> > wrote:
> > > I don't know how the stupid avapuck got truck of
> > the year. I'm
> > 22, right in the middle of that age group.....looks
> > like i need to go
> > around and slap some sense into my peers.
> >
>
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sean john · Post by **sean john** » Tue Jan 22, 2002 4:53 pm

How hard was it to do that on the SVX engine? Do you
know how much power you gained with the supercharger?
I am looking for a supercharger setup for my SVX.

nue
95 SVX
91 Legacy turbo

Message: 10
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 01:52:13 -0000
From: "milehial2000" <acroxford@hypermall.net>
Subject: Re: Supercharger on 2.2T block

We installed a supercharger on a SVX engine in a
Legacy that came off
of a Mazda Millinia. It was a Whipple type rotary vane
unit. It turned
out to be very loud and boost was hard to control and
was eventually
removed. Some time ago the Rimmer engineering unit was
supposed to be
made available to us and I can check on it if you
would like. I saw
that Vortech had a belt drive supercharger that would
fit the Subaru
in a magazine and talked with them and also talked to
Gates Rubber in
Denver and they said they are making belts for it that
would would
last a lot longer than the ordinary belts but I think
it still comes
down to how do you control boost ?

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vwsyncroguy · Post by **vwsyncroguy** » Tue Jan 22, 2002 9:23 pm

--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "Doug Hancock" <Doug_hancock@o...>
wrote:
> Well here it is the address for the super charger kit.
>
> http://www.capa.com.au/
>
> Just go to super charger kits then to the subaru liberty an bob's
your
> uncle. The car is actuly a 94 - 98 model but still 2.2.
>
> Regards Doug
> Newcastle (Australia)

Contacted these folks and they're no longer making the kit for the
Liberty/Legacy 2.2L due to lack of demand.

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milehial2000 · Post by **milehial2000** » Tue Jan 22, 2002 9:23 pm

It was pretty complicated everything had to be made by hand the mounts
,belt system, pulleys, super charger to throttle body ducting and the
intake. The whole works is probably for sale by the person that
thought of the idea he still owns the car. If it were me I would
inquire about the Vortech Supercharger they may have an application
that is close and the noise problem might not be something to contend
with as I believe that it is a centrifugal unit. This setup was
fast when it was working. I might be able to come up with a picture of
it if you would like.
AL(CO)

--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., sean john <r32657@y...> wrote:
> How hard was it to do that on the SVX engine? Do you
> know how much power you gained with the supercharger?
> I am looking for a supercharger setup for my SVX.
>
>
> nue
> 95 SVX
> 91 Legacy turbo
>
>
>
>
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 01:52:13 -0000
> From: "milehial2000" <acroxford@h...>
> Subject: Re: Supercharger on 2.2T block
>
> We installed a supercharger on a SVX engine in a
> Legacy that came off
> of a Mazda Millinia. It was a Whipple type rotary vane
> unit. It turned
> out to be very loud and boost was hard to control and
> was eventually
> removed. Some time ago the Rimmer engineering unit was
> supposed to be
> made available to us and I can check on it if you
> would like. I saw
> that Vortech had a belt drive supercharger that would
> fit the Subaru
> in a magazine and talked with them and also talked to
> Gates Rubber in
> Denver and they said they are making belts for it that
> would would
> last a lot longer than the ordinary belts but I think
> it still comes
> down to how do you control boost ?
>
>
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Grant Hughes · Post by **Grant Hughes** » Tue Jan 22, 2002 11:13 pm

That's way lame. That was the thing that made the car
in my opinion.
Grant
--- Josh Colombo <josh@surrealmirage.com> wrote:
> Grant,
>
> That was the original plan for the motor. Subaru
> put a design firm on hurts because they delayed the
> project. Now, there is going to be no supercharger,
> same ol' 2.5l 4 cylinder.
>
> You can check out the baja at www.subarubaja.com
> Personally....it looks like a piece of plastic
> shit....just like the avalanche....me thinks GM got
> their mits on the design. If it didn't have the
> stupid plastic cladding up SOO HIGH.....it wouldn't
> be bad at all, plus if it was painted all one color,
> that'd be even better, and it wouldn't look so
> stupid. Just my thoughts.....I'll get off my
> soapbox.
>
> Josh
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Grant Hughes [mailto:grantsubaru@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 11:21 PM
> To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Supercharger on 2.2T
> block
>
>
> I've just started working at a John Elway Subaru
> Dealership in Denver and they have officially
> announced that they are releasing a version of the
> STX, a concept car from almost two years ago that
> they
> are going to call the Subaru Baja. Basically it is
> going to be like an Outback but in a truck style
> (remember the Brat). The thing that relates to your
> question about the supercharger is that it is going
> to
> be the same 2.5L/4 cyl. engine as in the Outback but
> super charged and intercooled to 230hp. I would
> imagine that this same supercharger could be applied
> to an older 2.2 engine but I'm not an expert and I
> don't know the avab. on getting the actual parts but
> a
> call to your local Subaru parts dealer might be able
> to get some more info. www.subaru.com has a link to
> a
> specs page on the Baja for anyone who might be
> interested.
> Grant
> --- vwsyncroguy <vwsyncroguy@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Has anyone out there have any experience with
> > supercharged (rather
> > than turboed) 2.2L's.
> >
> > I am interested in the supercharger vs. turbo for
> > the immediate
> > throttle response (no turbo lag) and less heat in
> > the engine
> > compartment.
> >
> > My goal is significantly more pulling power at
> lower
> > rpm. I am
> > seriously considering using the great 2.2T (for
> all
> > its extra
> > strength, oiling and cooling designed for
> > turbocharging) and a small
> > Eaton supercharger. At least one of the Subaru
> > engine suppliers to
> > the airplane crowd is putting one on a 2.5L.
> >
> > I know that Rimmer has done some work with this
> but
> > they seem to be
> > pretty silent about it lately and I've never seen
> > any info or a write-
> > up on one of their installations.
> >
> > Appreciate any leads for feedback and experience.
> >
> > Warren C.
> >
> >
>
>
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Grant Hughes · Post by **Grant Hughes** » Tue Jan 22, 2002 11:23 pm

I work in Sales. I am still going through all the
repetitive sales process junk this week at the Chevy
store up North. I will start at the store on
Aprapahoe just east of I-25 on next Monday. The
training is horrible as I am in it with a bunch of
people from the Ford and Chevy stores, two vehicles
that I personally dislike with a passion and I find
myself getting in a lot of arguments however. It's
funny though how I can always give reasons why a
Subaru is better than anything they can give me. Are
you considering putting a supercharger on your car
now? What is your current Subaru. I'm not real
experienced yet in mechanical work but I am constantly
trying to further my knowledge and if you are putting
a supercharger on I would love to give a hand if I
can. Even if it just means bringing a cooler of beer
or helping with anything else.
Grant Hughes

--- milehial2000 <acroxford@hypermall.net> wrote:
> What dept. do you work in Grant? My brother is
> serious about a new or
> used Subaru after seeing mine.
> Al(CO)
>
>
>
>
> --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., Grant Hughes
> <grantsubaru@y...> wrote:
> > I've just started working at a John Elway Subaru
> > Dealership in Denver and they have officially
> > announced that they are releasing a version of the
> > STX, a concept car from almost two years ago that
> they
> > are going to call the Subaru Baja. Basically it
> is
> > going to be like an Outback but in a truck style
> > (remember the Brat). The thing that relates to
> your
> > question about the supercharger is that it is
> going to
> > be the same 2.5L/4 cyl. engine as in the Outback
> but
> > super charged and intercooled to 230hp. I would
> > imagine that this same supercharger could be
> applied
> > to an older 2.2 engine but I'm not an expert and I
> > don't know the avab. on getting the actual parts
> but a
> > call to your local Subaru parts dealer might be
> able
> > to get some more info. www.subaru.com has a link
> to a
> > specs page on the Baja for anyone who might be
> > interested.
> > Grant
> > --- vwsyncroguy <vwsyncroguy@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Has anyone out there have any experience with
> > > supercharged (rather
> > > than turboed) 2.2L's.
> > >
> > > I am interested in the supercharger vs. turbo
> for
> > > the immediate
> > > throttle response (no turbo lag) and less heat
> in
> > > the engine
> > > compartment.
> > >
> > > My goal is significantly more pulling power at
> lower
> > > rpm. I am
> > > seriously considering using the great 2.2T (for
> all
> > > its extra
> > > strength, oiling and cooling designed for
> > > turbocharging) and a small
> > > Eaton supercharger. At least one of the Subaru
> > > engine suppliers to
> > > the airplane crowd is putting one on a 2.5L.
> > >
> > > I know that Rimmer has done some work with this
> but
> > > they seem to be
> > > pretty silent about it lately and I've never
> seen
> > > any info or a write-
> > > up on one of their installations.
> > >
> > > Appreciate any leads for feedback and
> experience.
> > >
> > > Warren C.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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