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Posted: **Fri Feb 01, 2002 9:49 am**

The discussion has been raging, and we're still not sure what's going
on. Manuals may have it wrong, and chaos reigns....

I refer you to the press packet from 93 that i scanned in here:
http://www.xmission.com/~dac/library/93_packet_info.htm

Under the Sedan, it states that the MT/FWD, MT/L/AWD and AT/FWD FD is
3.7. AT/AWD is listed as 3.9, while MT/AWD is 4.111.

The Sport Sedan is MT/AWD in most/all of these cases we're talking
about, so it *should* be 4.111 gearing.

The Wagon does differ slightly. MT/FWD is 3.7, AT/AWD and AW/FWD are
3.9 while MT/AWD is again 4.11. I'll be damned if they never put the
MT/AWD in the Touring Wagon, but i'll remedy that soon enough.

John from Subaru/Suzuki/Kia is sending me what should be a Legacy
Turbo transmission and LSD from a 93. They're 4.111 gears. He said
that the 91 had 3.9 in the MT/AWD but that most 92-94 had 4.111.

I wish i could find 91, 92 and 94 press packets...the 91 Legacy
Dealer brochure i have doesn't go into gearing.

Dave

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Posted: **Fri Feb 01, 2002 1:36 pm**

Dave,

Just curious....where are you finding your press releases, and scanned packets?

Josh

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Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Transmission Gearing

The discussion has been raging, and we're still not sure what's going
on. Manuals may have it wrong, and chaos reigns....

I refer you to the press packet from 93 that i scanned in here:
http://www.xmission.com/~dac/library/93_packet_info.htm

Under the Sedan, it states that the MT/FWD, MT/L/AWD and AT/FWD FD is
3.7. AT/AWD is listed as 3.9, while MT/AWD is 4.111.

The Sport Sedan is MT/AWD in most/all of these cases we're talking
about, so it *should* be 4.111 gearing.

The Wagon does differ slightly. MT/FWD is 3.7, AT/AWD and AW/FWD are
3.9 while MT/AWD is again 4.11. I'll be damned if they never put the
MT/AWD in the Touring Wagon, but i'll remedy that soon enough.

John from Subaru/Suzuki/Kia is sending me what should be a Legacy
Turbo transmission and LSD from a 93. They're 4.111 gears. He said
that the 91 had 3.9 in the MT/AWD but that most 92-94 had 4.111.

I wish i could find 91, 92 and 94 press packets...the 91 Legacy
Dealer brochure i have doesn't go into gearing.

Dave

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Posted: **Fri Feb 01, 2002 1:59 pm**

I just buy them from people on eBay.

Don't be swooping me now

Dave

--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "Josh Colombo" <josh@s...> wrote:
> Dave,
>
> Just curious....where are you finding your press releases, and
scanned packets?
>
> Josh
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: legacycentral [mailto:legacycentral@y...]
> Sent: Fri 2/1/2002 8:40 AM
> To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> Cc:
> Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Transmission Gearing
>
>
>
> The discussion has been raging, and we're still not sure
what's going
> on. Manuals may have it wrong, and chaos reigns....
>
> I refer you to the press packet from 93 that i scanned in
here:
> http://www.xmission.com/~dac/library/93_packet_info.htm
>
> Under the Sedan, it states that the MT/FWD, MT/L/AWD and
AT/FWD FD is
> 3.7. AT/AWD is listed as 3.9, while MT/AWD is 4.111.
>
> The Sport Sedan is MT/AWD in most/all of these cases we're
talking
> about, so it *should* be 4.111 gearing.
>
> The Wagon does differ slightly. MT/FWD is 3.7, AT/AWD and
AW/FWD are
> 3.9 while MT/AWD is again 4.11. I'll be damned if they never
put the
> MT/AWD in the Touring Wagon, but i'll remedy that soon enough.
>
> John from Subaru/Suzuki/Kia is sending me what should be a
Legacy
> Turbo transmission and LSD from a 93. They're 4.111 gears.
He said
> that the 91 had 3.9 in the MT/AWD but that most 92-94 had
4.111.
>
> I wish i could find 91, 92 and 94 press packets...the 91
Legacy
> Dealer brochure i have doesn't go into gearing.
>
> Dave
>
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Posted: **Tue Feb 05, 2002 10:40 pm**

OK! here is what i found. I have the 1992 subaru legacy service manual sitting in front of me.

manual transmission section:
fwd non turbo: 3.700
awd non turbo: 4.111
awd turbo: 3.900

automatic transmission section
(no classification between turbo/non turbo):
fwd: 3.7
awd: 3.9

i also have the subaru parts manual(this was nice score i might add) and what i read in the notes section about the rear diff:
91-92: model l,ls,ls.d = 4.111
91 : model turbo with LSD= 3.9
92-94: AT model l,ls, turbo= 3.9
92-94: MT model L = 4.111

i did a conversion from auto(1993) to manual(1991). Since i'm not hearing massive noise/smoke coming out of my center diff I'm pretty sure I have 3.9. The back of my rear diff is marked 3.9.

honestly I wouldn't believe too deeply in a press packet.

ok i got some magic to read your transmission id.
1234567890 <-- place in TIN
tz102zj3aa <-- my AT
ty752vj1aa <-- my 5 speed MT

1: t=transmission
2: A=2wd AT, M=2wd MT, Z=Full Time 4wd AT, Y=Full Time 4wd MT
3&4: distance between gears
5: 2=series code
6: A=2wd 4at, R=2wd 5f(75 distance between gear),
V=full time 4wds/R(center diff & viscuss type)
Z=full time 4wdd/R(Multi Plate Type)
7: A=2200cc EMPI, J=2200cc TURBO
8: 1=1990, 2=1991, 3=1993, 4=1994
9&0: no meaning

lex

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Posted: **Wed Feb 06, 2002 1:09 am**

Where did you get the service manuals? Are they worth
purchasing? I'll probably have my car for a long
while, so I was already thinking about trying to find
the service manuals. Any help would be greatly
appreciated. TIA.

-Brian

--- aludeman <aludeman@yahoo.com> wrote:
> OK! here is what i found. I have the 1992 subaru
> legacy service manual sitting in front of me.
>
> manual transmission section:
> fwd non turbo: 3.700
> awd non turbo: 4.111
> awd turbo: 3.900
>
> automatic transmission section
> (no classification between turbo/non turbo):
> fwd: 3.7
> awd: 3.9
>
> i also have the subaru parts manual(this was nice
> score i might add) and what i read in the notes
> section about the rear diff:
> 91-92: model l,ls,ls.d = 4.111
> 91 : model turbo with LSD= 3.9
> 92-94: AT model l,ls, turbo= 3.9
> 92-94: MT model L = 4.111
>
> i did a conversion from auto(1993) to manual(1991).
> Since i'm not hearing massive noise/smoke coming out
> of my center diff I'm pretty sure I have 3.9. The
> back of my rear diff is marked 3.9.
>
> honestly I wouldn't believe too deeply in a press
> packet.
>
> ok i got some magic to read your transmission id.
> 1234567890 <-- place in TIN
> tz102zj3aa <-- my AT
> ty752vj1aa <-- my 5 speed MT
>
> 1: t=transmission
> 2: A=2wd AT, M=2wd MT, Z=Full Time 4wd AT, Y=Full
> Time 4wd MT
> 3&4: distance between gears
> 5: 2=series code
> 6: A=2wd 4at, R=2wd 5f(75 distance between gear),
> V=full time 4wds/R(center diff & viscuss type)
> Z=full time 4wdd/R(Multi Plate Type)
> 7: A=2200cc EMPI, J=2200cc TURBO
> 8: 1=1990, 2=1991, 3=1993, 4=1994
> 9&0: no meaning
>
> lex
>
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Posted: **Thu Feb 07, 2002 4:30 pm**

That's interesting

In New Zealand our ratios are as follows

non turbo/turbo FWD: 3.90 Non LSD/LSD
non turbo/turbo AWD: 4.11 LSD only
non turbo/turbo AWD: 4.44 LSD only - Late model only mainly found in
WRX's

Dan

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