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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 11:22 pm 
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Alright So I bought 2 big blue bushings from RalliTEK (look at other thread "Would these bushings work?). I bought them without actually looking under the car to see which ones I really needed(dont ask why :( ) .

And the bushings I bought are not the problem, So now Ill have super high performance poly blue bushings (estimated 13whp gain over stock bushings) ha!


So while I was under the car today I started to wiggle the shift rod around and found the problem....

>Blue arrow is where the blue rallitek bushings will go
>Red arrows are the bushings I need... right? There are suppose to be bushings there?

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>Where'd the bushings go? There arent any!! :shock:
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Does anyone know the part number for these?
And replacing those would fix my sloppy floppy shifter?

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 11:54 pm 
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I believe you cannot order those bushings. I think it's one piece and comes with bushings on it. I could be wrong. I ordered one. I'll get pictures and a part number for you this afternoon if I remember when I go to my parents house where my subaru is.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 1:09 am 
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It has those stupid hard plastic bushings-that fell out.I ended up making some aluminum bushings to take their place on my lathe and it came out awesome (no play at all).You may not have a lathe but you might be able to find something at a hardware store or something that fits,bronze, aluminum,nylon,whatever.You may have to do some custom adapting top make something work if you dont find another unit altogether.

Worth it though-nothing better than a tight shifter.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 1:42 am 
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if got a lathe why dont you make some for us?

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 2:50 am 
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Yeah man, I'll second that, if you want to mill a few out for us, I would definitely buy a set from you... My shift is getting pretty sloppy nowadays. (ok... who's gonna run with that one?)

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 2:55 am 
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fishbone79 wrote:
Yeah man, I'll second that, if you want to mill a few out for us, I would definitely buy a set from you... My shift is getting pretty sloppy nowadays. (ok... who's gonna run with that one?)


ill do it!!!

get your boyfreind to straigthen it out for you.

now back to the subject. i bet you that it will even work on 2nd and 3rd gens.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 3:08 am 
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I got a couple pictures of that part I was talking about and a part number and part numbers for all the other shift bushings and the spring and pin.

Don't have time to post them now, gotta go to work. I'll post them up when I get home in the morning.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 3:16 am 
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get your boyfreind to straigthen it out for you.


Wakka wakka!

Anyway, I was actually particularly interested in the Al ones if they work well... But I suppose this is a topic for a different thread.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 4:40 am 
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well if he has a lathe and could make them.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 6:28 am 
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Bingo! Found it.......

viewtopic.php?t=37134

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 12:58 pm 
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Yep, that's the thread I used to find my part numbers when I ordered the bushings at the dealership.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 3:50 pm 
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if got a lathe why dont you make some for us?



:smt115

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:10 pm 
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kimokalihi wrote:
Yep, that's the thread I used to find my part numbers when I ordered the bushings at the dealership.

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alright sweet. So I have to order the whole joint with bushings than?

How much did that cost you?


-Thanks for the help everyone!

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:05 pm 
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I can't give you prices until I find my invoice, but it isn't too pricey.....

IMO you don't need a new joint. Just bushings. And the spring.

You are going to love the results of this..... I just put in new bushings and I am very happy with it. :D

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 12:18 am 
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I don't know if you need the joint or not. I think that joint on the right came with my shifter linkage from a WRX. I thought I read a thread a while back saying you need to buy the joint because the joint is welded together and you can't get it apart to replace the bushings. That's why I think I bought the joint in the first place.

It was several months ago and my project has been on hold so I forgot the exact details.

35047ac030 $42.04 from 1stsubaruparts.com

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:42 am 
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Ok cool. Ill see what the dealership has first and check some prices out.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:55 am 
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Last night I ordered the parts (all 6 of the above part numbers) from Genuine Subaru.

I get an email back saying:

Hello
Thank you for your order with Subarugenuineparts.com

You have requested/ordered an item which DOES NOT MATCH your supplied vin number

Item: shift link joint 35047ac030


Correct item according to your vin is 2 pieces
35032aa040
35047aa030

CORRECT PRICE $26.36 AND $10.76

DOES NOT INCLUDE THE HARDWARE TO PUT THEM TOGETHER

YOUR VEHICLE VIN DOES NOT HAVE A JOINT "ASSY"



Do you wish to order the item which matches your supplied vin number?

If so, do you approve of the charges?

WE CANNOT PROCESS YOUR ORDER WITHOUT YOUR APPROVAL
Your order will now be placed on hold, pending your reply.


please confirm,

Jamie Thomas
Internet Parts Manager

***************

Now i dont know what to do..what parts do i need?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 9:49 am 
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You know what. I think they're right. Let me check for you.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:04 am 
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Nevermind I can't find anything in the parts catalog that shows any part of the shift linkage.

Maybe I'm just missing it but I just looked through it twice and found nothing. It's nowhere to be found in the transmission section I looked at every picture.

WTF

Anyways, that joint with the bushings already in it is for a WRX. That's why they're telling you it's not there. I just remembered the reason I bought the joint was because I bought a Group A short shifter which I found out only fit the WRX shift linkage. So I bought a WRX shift linkage and it needed those bushings replaced but it's welded closed so I had to buy the whole joint.

I would recommend getting the WRX shift linkage too because then you can buy the tougher aftermarket bushings that won't fall apart like I've heard the stock ones do. Plus I believe the shifter on the WRX is shorter than ours so that's kinda cool. If you're into that.

Or you can just call them up and tell them you want all the stock bushings for your car and make sure you get the spring if yours is worn out. I hear they get rusty and wear out or snap.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 3:11 pm 
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This should help...... Page 434 in Steering System and Cable

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:09 am 
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Alright sweet thanks guys.

Skatedees that helps alot.

I really want a short shifter, dont really need one but it would be nice.

Might do the DIY shifter or go all out and buy the "sti" 5 speed whole shabang

But if I bought the "sti" 5 speed short shifter with the linkage would i still need to replace those bushings? or does it come with everything?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:34 am 
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I'm going to pistol-whip the guy that began calling shifter mounts "bushings." The parts you get from Kartboy or RalliTek or whatever are shifter mounts. They are not bushings.

35047AC030 will only be useful to you if you're swapping to the new-style shifter. If you are staying with your old shifter, then it will not work.

Refer to this post in which I detailed the process of putting an 08 WRX shifter in my car. That will show you the difference. (I just uploaded all my pics to my Photobucket and fixed all the links, since the USMB apparently took my old pics down.)

If you want to replace the bushings in your old shifter, the only part numbers you will need are 35035AA030 and 35035KA030.

Shifter bushings are a hellacious and infuriating pain-in-the-ass by the way. You've been forewarned.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 2:56 am 
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I guess i was only calling the big blue ones I got (which are #12 in the blown up picture) bushings, because everywhere I looked they all called them bushings.

Well I think I finaly know what I need to fix my floppy shifter, 35035AA030 and 35035KA030 (11 and 27 in the pic) which are the bushings that dont even exist anymore on my car.

Thanks DerFahrer for the extra knowledge!

:)

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 3:32 pm 
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nm mcmaster ftw


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:46 am 
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Recieved my parts today.

Will be doing a whole write up with pics of before/after and install.

Pretty excited :-D

Thanks everyone for the advice and comments!

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