Production Numbers on the Legacy turbo?

MR2fanatic · Post by **MR2fanatic** » Wed Nov 12, 2003 3:58 pm

Does anyone know how many were made in total from 91-94? I thought I have rare MR2's but I'm thinking this car is even more rare.

HomeSlice · Post by **HomeSlice** » Wed Nov 12, 2003 6:44 pm

alot of people argue over this so i dont think anyone has a solid fact of what was produced- best bet is writing SOA a letter
Cheers,
Jim

Post by **Legacy777** » Wed Nov 12, 2003 7:58 pm

there's a thread if you search about it....however i wouldn't trust those numbers.

Only thing I'd trust is from SOA, however they most likely aren't going to give them to ya......

boostjunkie · Post by **boostjunkie** » Wed Nov 12, 2003 8:48 pm

This is kinda OT, but what happens to cars that NEVER get sold? I'm sure there are some cars that are produced that never get puchased, right?

Just wondering whether the number produced would differ from the number actually put on the road.

QuickDrive · Post by **QuickDrive** » Wed Nov 12, 2003 9:09 pm

It would be nice if manufacturers saved say 15 production vehicles per year of a certain type and re-released them say 10 years later..

Wouldn't it be nice to own a brand new Legacy Turbo 5MT.

boostjunkie · Post by **boostjunkie** » Wed Nov 12, 2003 10:20 pm

I'm not saying that the cars themselves were "saved," I meant that they were dismantled and turned into replacement parts. Again, could the number of cars manufactured differ from the cars sold?

THAWA · Post by **THAWA** » Wed Nov 12, 2003 10:24 pm

I think he was just saying it would be nice if that happened, but sadly it doesnt.

evolutionmovement · Post by **evolutionmovement** » Wed Nov 12, 2003 11:13 pm

I'm almost completely sure manufacturers use registrations to discuss sales, not manufacturing numbers. This makes sense, because just think if a ship sank transporting a couple hundred cars, vandalism, fire, etc. Going by registrations would also give a better indication of distribution. I've read many different accounts of how many cars were built, and I don't believe any of them. They're relatively rare, but going by the number I've seen, the number of engines around, the number on this board, and factoring in natural attrition I think there's no way there were only about 1000 built and even less for the wagons which are some of the figures I've seen. 1200 Lamborghini Espadas were built and (they would likely have a lesser rate of attrition than the Subarus despite their added age), how many of those do you see?

Steve

vrg3 · Post by **vrg3** » Wed Nov 12, 2003 11:30 pm

You really think some new cars just don't get sold? I think most of the time the dealer just keeps dropping the price until it sells, just to get the car off the lot.

evolutionmovement · Post by **evolutionmovement** » Wed Nov 12, 2003 11:36 pm

There's a Mercury dealer around here still trying to unload a brand new yellow 2001 Cougar. Good luck.

Steve

evolutionmovement · Post by **evolutionmovement** » Wed Nov 12, 2003 11:38 pm

Forgot: dealers purchase the cars from the manufacturer, they don't return them like unsold magazines and books. That's why it's so important for them to make sure they plan on getting the right combo of colors and options.

Steve

91White-T · Post by **91White-T** » Thu Nov 13, 2003 12:48 am

I would imagine that any new car that isn't sold ends up at an auction sooner or later.

HomeSlice · Post by **HomeSlice** » Thu Nov 13, 2003 6:18 am

this linc merc dealer by me usta be a yugo dealer in the 80's and he still got 4 on the lotall the way in the back with the stickers still on the window. mad low miles. even got a sport one with the sunroof cool sport down the side pinstrips and rally wheels . then again they probaly didnt run from the factory......lol

czo79 · Post by **czo79** » Thu Nov 13, 2003 7:44 am

My mechanic recently came back from the used car auctions and told me he had seen a legacy turbo for sale with basically no miles. Apparently someone who owned a dealership or was somehow affiliated with it, bought one for a collectors item and just put it away into storage in a garage somwhere, never drove it. He didn't see if it was a manual or auto. I was so very pissed at him for not calling me up right away, I would have made him buy it for me.
Micum

THAWA · Post by **THAWA** » Thu Nov 13, 2003 7:47 am

I'll be mad if it went to some ricer kid who's just going to crash it. It hsould go to me so I can cras...I mean have fun in it

But seriously I'd love to see an extremely low miles leg turbo, it'd be cool if it still have new car smell too after so many years, though I guess it's not possible. Wonder why he didn't try and sell it himself, could've gotten a pretty penny for it I'll bet.

eastbaysubaru · Post by **eastbaysubaru** » Thu Nov 13, 2003 5:21 pm

Check my thread in the Parts Shed. There's currently a '93 turbo wagon with only 63K miles on it for sale on eBay.

-Brian

Opie · Post by **Opie** » Thu Nov 13, 2003 10:57 pm

Whoever suggested e-mailing SOA and asking had the best idea!

I sent this last night via the "Contact Us" link at www.subaru.com:

I recently purchased my 5th Subaru (I now currently own 3) that is a 1991 Subaru
Legacy Turbo Sport Sedan. I've been told that these are somewhat rare. I was
wondering if you could provide me with the U.S. production or sale numbers for
the 1991-1991 Legacy's equipped with the turbo engines. If not could you direct
me someplace that might have this information.

Thanks!
Will

Just recieved this a few minutes ago!

Dear Mr. Conklin:

Thank you for visiting the Subaru Web site and for your message. We appreciate
your support of Subaru products!

We can offer you the production numbers for the 1991 Legacy Turbo Sport Sedan:
Automatic Transmission - 149 units
Manual Transmission - 58 units

I hope this helps. Thank you for this opportunity to be of service. Should you
require any additional assistance, feel free to contact us again!

Best Wishes,

Dawn Rainear
Subaru of America,
Inc.-----------------------------------------------------------

Looks like only 207 for 1991, same info I found somewhere else.

THAWA · Post by **THAWA** » Thu Nov 13, 2003 11:05 pm

Well one of the 149 autos is sitting in a junkyard at picknpull in rancho cordova so cross it off the list of cars that still run :\

So far I've seen two other turbos in sac but couldn't tell mt or at. Those are really low numbers when you think about it.

Post by **Legacy777** » Fri Nov 14, 2003 12:18 am

personally.....I think those numbers are bullshit.

I still can not see that any car company would build up an entire manufacturing line to build 200 freaking cars......I'm not buying it. There's no way in hell you'd come close to breaking even.

entirelyturbo · Post by **entirelyturbo** » Fri Nov 14, 2003 2:04 am

Agreed. A huge car company like Ford wouldn't even do something like that (for example, bring 100 Escort Cossies over here), and they can afford to do that waaaaay more than Subaru can...

evolutionmovement · Post by **evolutionmovement** » Fri Nov 14, 2003 2:14 am

There are way too many of these things out there for those numbers to be right. Has anyone seen a 1991 turbo? Now how about an Iso Grifo? They built about 500 of those.

Steve

Matt Monson · Post by **Matt Monson** » Fri Nov 14, 2003 2:17 am

We could get slightly empirical among ourselves. The answer lies in the vin #. Everyone post the last 5 digits of your vin and your MY, and wagon or sedan. If there really are more than a few hundred per year, this will prove it.
My MY94 wagon is #00755. So there were at least 755 made in 1994...

Who else wants to play my game?

LegacyT · Post by **LegacyT** » Fri Nov 14, 2003 2:23 am

In other ways the numbers may be realistic aswell. Remeber the "Legacy Turbo" is only just a version of the Legacy . It's the same shell as any other legacy. Most nuts and bolts along with mountings are the same. Interior is the same layout just with different cloth, just like other varients, such as the L and LSi. The Legacy Turbo is as different as say the FWD version from a regular N/A AWD model. Or models with air suspension. It's not like Subaru built a special plant and special tooling just to build the 200 Legacy turbo's in 1991. At one point in time they were all the same, and plucked to determine which guise they'd wear, whether it being FWD, Turbo, L, LSi, etc.

Mark,

vrg3 · Post by **vrg3** » Fri Nov 14, 2003 2:48 am

The VIN ranges are the same among all the Legacies, so it wouldn't help us figure out how many turbos in particular were made.

I don't think it's that unrealistic that the numbers would be so low. Like Mark says, the turbos are mostly the same as the non-turbos. Think about other special editions, like the 94 Legacy GT, or the Alpine Sport... all those had some special parts too.

evolutionmovement · Post by **evolutionmovement** » Fri Nov 14, 2003 2:50 am

But the engines would've been built on a seperate line, and that's not cheap. Especially not these engines.

Steve

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Production Numbers on the Legacy turbo?

Production Numbers on the Legacy turbo?