Strut and axle install how to with pictures
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Strut and axle install how to with pictures
Edit: I used different springs than listed below.
how to and write up at the bottom of page 1
i have 1993 ss
im buying 02 wrx sedan struts (fully assembled)
im buying 02 whiteline springs, wagon specific.
im using 02 tops for the front and my stock tops for the rear.
please correct me if im wrong, but with my research i think this setup will work fine.
but, how long should i expect these struts to last with those springs
what kind of approx. drop am i looking at?
thanks guys
how to and write up at the bottom of page 1
i have 1993 ss
im buying 02 wrx sedan struts (fully assembled)
im buying 02 whiteline springs, wagon specific.
im using 02 tops for the front and my stock tops for the rear.
please correct me if im wrong, but with my research i think this setup will work fine.
but, how long should i expect these struts to last with those springs
what kind of approx. drop am i looking at?
thanks guys
Last edited by RJ93SS on Tue Mar 17, 2009 5:24 pm, edited 1 time in total.
93SS 04 wrx brakes/slotted w/ hawks--TD05 -- 06 I/C -- 20mm n/a fsb -- Stage 2 -- 550's -- Perrin DIV DP -- 2-3/4 Tit Exhaust -- K&N -- C/C -- A/C Delete -- Grounded -- GT Leather Interior -- WRX/STI Strut Setup -- 17" 225's -- 2 Kids Seats ;)
That will work, but you will have the camber problem since you chose sedan struts. Look up Jamal's threads for his solution. IIRC, you can get back to zero camber, but to get any real negative camber you need to mod the stuts.
You may need to use washers to take up the slack in the rear when you put on the Legacy strut tops.
You may need to use washers to take up the slack in the rear when you put on the Legacy strut tops.
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'93 Pure White SS EJ20G slanty intercooled, SIDESWIPED! In stasis.
'94 FWD and '95 AWD Laguna Blue SVXs.
2017 Pure Red BRZ Limited w/Performance pack
so i'll have a camber problem from putting sedan wrx struts on my sedan? i thought that was going from wagon to sedan
93SS 04 wrx brakes/slotted w/ hawks--TD05 -- 06 I/C -- 20mm n/a fsb -- Stage 2 -- 550's -- Perrin DIV DP -- 2-3/4 Tit Exhaust -- K&N -- C/C -- A/C Delete -- Grounded -- GT Leather Interior -- WRX/STI Strut Setup -- 17" 225's -- 2 Kids Seats ;)
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WRX sedan has slightly wider track than your Legacy, so when you put those struts on your Legacy you're giving up some negative camber. WRX wagon struts are a better choice as the geometry is nearly the same as your Legacy, so you can take advantage of more negative camber.
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91 Legacy Sport Sedan - SOLD
94 Legacy Touring Wagon - SOLD
00 Impreza L Sport Wagon - totaled!
ahh, thanks, i just figured this out by looking through some of jamal's threads. so i should buy some aftermarket camber bolts or should i do some slotting.
i do have access to a machine shop
i do have access to a machine shop
Last edited by RJ93SS on Tue Mar 17, 2009 2:49 am, edited 1 time in total.
93SS 04 wrx brakes/slotted w/ hawks--TD05 -- 06 I/C -- 20mm n/a fsb -- Stage 2 -- 550's -- Perrin DIV DP -- 2-3/4 Tit Exhaust -- K&N -- C/C -- A/C Delete -- Grounded -- GT Leather Interior -- WRX/STI Strut Setup -- 17" 225's -- 2 Kids Seats ;)
yeah everything there should fit. Camber bolts in the rear and slotting in the front is how I do it. You could just slot all four though and not spend the money on camber bolts. I just happened to already have them. You'll want to slot the holes out about 2mm, and then shove things over as you tighten the strut bolts.
guys, i really appreciate your help.
two more questions
in one suspension sticky, it states to whiteline flatouts will lower my car 1.0" front and 1.5" rear. i really dont want this. i want lower front and slightly lower rear(over stock)
i already almost rub in the rear when heavily loaded on stock setup and im looking for a more balanced look.
do i need to drill the holes, at work, we slot holes with a die grinder to make them more oval shaped.i should be able to get it almost perfect. i guess i would slot the hole towards the center of the car not towards the fender right? or the yop towards the middle and bottom hole towards the outside? im confused on that one. please forgive my suspension newbness
two more questions
in one suspension sticky, it states to whiteline flatouts will lower my car 1.0" front and 1.5" rear. i really dont want this. i want lower front and slightly lower rear(over stock)
i already almost rub in the rear when heavily loaded on stock setup and im looking for a more balanced look.
do i need to drill the holes, at work, we slot holes with a die grinder to make them more oval shaped.i should be able to get it almost perfect. i guess i would slot the hole towards the center of the car not towards the fender right? or the yop towards the middle and bottom hole towards the outside? im confused on that one. please forgive my suspension newbness
93SS 04 wrx brakes/slotted w/ hawks--TD05 -- 06 I/C -- 20mm n/a fsb -- Stage 2 -- 550's -- Perrin DIV DP -- 2-3/4 Tit Exhaust -- K&N -- C/C -- A/C Delete -- Grounded -- GT Leather Interior -- WRX/STI Strut Setup -- 17" 225's -- 2 Kids Seats ;)
The flat outs will lower the car more than that. Those numbers are more comparable to the control springs
http://bbs.legacycentral.org/viewtopic. ... =whiteline
http://bbs.legacycentral.org/viewtopic. ... =whiteline
Josh
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ok, thanks. so i went and seen a subie guy at a local suspension shop and i figured out what were doing.
02 stock struts all around. 04 sti springs with 02 tops at the front.
02 rear springs with stock tops.
all struts slotted for camber.
springs may be trimmed after install to achieve desired ride height especially if the rear sits to high.
looking for 1.5 f and 1.0 rear
car is a daily driver and will not be auto x yet but is drivin with spirit every once in a while
thanks for everyone's help.
hope this can be of assistance to others
02 stock struts all around. 04 sti springs with 02 tops at the front.
02 rear springs with stock tops.
all struts slotted for camber.
springs may be trimmed after install to achieve desired ride height especially if the rear sits to high.
looking for 1.5 f and 1.0 rear
car is a daily driver and will not be auto x yet but is drivin with spirit every once in a while

thanks for everyone's help.
hope this can be of assistance to others
93SS 04 wrx brakes/slotted w/ hawks--TD05 -- 06 I/C -- 20mm n/a fsb -- Stage 2 -- 550's -- Perrin DIV DP -- 2-3/4 Tit Exhaust -- K&N -- C/C -- A/C Delete -- Grounded -- GT Leather Interior -- WRX/STI Strut Setup -- 17" 225's -- 2 Kids Seats ;)
swap is done. stoked with results.
i believe the original struts and springs were in there.
they were kyb's and said subaru
gas filled, do not heat
one was bent. alighnment was way off
details and pics to come as soon as i have time
i believe the original struts and springs were in there.
they were kyb's and said subaru
gas filled, do not heat
one was bent. alighnment was way off
details and pics to come as soon as i have time
93SS 04 wrx brakes/slotted w/ hawks--TD05 -- 06 I/C -- 20mm n/a fsb -- Stage 2 -- 550's -- Perrin DIV DP -- 2-3/4 Tit Exhaust -- K&N -- C/C -- A/C Delete -- Grounded -- GT Leather Interior -- WRX/STI Strut Setup -- 17" 225's -- 2 Kids Seats ;)
So, i've had torn up cv boots in my 93 Legacy SS for about a year now. They were not clicking or anything but they had to start sometime soon. So that was my main reason for the project. Since the car is fairly low km and everything i've replaced so far has been original oem, I figured the struts were probably in need while i'm down there. I was also sick and tired of body roll, the car felt like a boat on some hard corners. The car also needed an alighnment after bumping a curb two christmas's ago.
My first step was to research what I could use and ask lots of newbee
questions as I've never touched a Subaru, or any other type of cars suspensions.
Thanks to everyone who helped.
and Jason T at Dale's Brake and Alighnment. Thanks for the knowledge.
Excuse me if i miss anything. I'll edit as i go.
First thing i would like to note. I spent 4 hours trying to get the right axel spring pin out, and 4 minutes doing the left. i'll elaborate later.
First thing i did was to pull off the center caps and crack the axel nuts free with a 32mm (1 1/4ish) impact socket. The socket was connected to a 3 foot 300# torque wrench.
i did this with the car on the ground. i ve heard of these nuts being really tough. mine came off with a little force and no swearing.
Then we jacked the car up and took the wheels off. Remeber to use jackstands for safety and because you will be shaking the car around a bit and you don't want it falling.
This is my buddy Keith, he helped out with the project. We were both newbies to it.

Next thing we did was remove the caliper 14mm bolt and then slid the caliper off. We then hung it with a zap strap. Then we loosened off the brake brackets two 17mm bolts for removal and placed everything to the side.
Next we cut the brake line bracket off the strut carefully as not to damage the line. This is optional. You can also disconnect the brake line but then you will have to bleed your brakes We used a zip cut and a steady hand to just knick the bracket and then bent it off with pliers..
We then marked the bolt head side of the camber bolt with a paint marker. We were just getting it close as it was going in for an alighnment two days later anyways.
Next we placed a jack under the knuckle and removed the two strut to knuckle bolts, these are 19mm. After that we loosened off the three 12mm nuts on the top of the strut tower.
Last thing to do is lower the jack slowly and remove the strut. Put it aside.
Now if your doing axels.
We spent 4 hours trying to bang out the spring pin on the inside diff part of the axel. Little did we know, the axel will slide right out of the front diff with a little tug if you have the outside out of the knuckle. The reason we had such a problem is because we used a center punch to get the spring pin out which just jammed everything up.
Here's a look at some of the tools we broke.

If we would have used a proper flat end punch that was the same size as the pin it would have went super easy.
but we didnt.
So, our next step was to remove the axel nut completely. we turned the wheel to the right for doing the left side and to the left to pull out the right side.
Like Ciper said, there is no need to remove a ball joint or anything else if the knuckle bolts are out. The knuckle will move enough to remove the axel. You may need a rubber mallet to get the axel loose.
We then yanked out the axel from the diff side and got rid of the spring pin with the axel on the bench. That way was alot easier. on the second side we did, it took 4 minutes compared to four hours because we removed it from the car and used the proper punch to get the spring pin out.

As you can see, one took 4 hours, the other 4 minutes.
We had new altrom axels put in. we put the new spring pins in the axels with the axels on the bench and then slid them back into the diff.
to do this, line the axel up in the diff and slide it in as far as you can, then hit the outside with a rubber mallet and it should pop in the rest of the diff.
After you get it in, put the outside axel in the knuckle carefully and hand tighten the nut. Have the knuckle ready to jack up so you don't put too much pressure on the new boot.
Back to the struts, this is when we marked the camber bolt for reference before removal.

and here is the stock strut.

looks original, i sanded the paint and dirt off to read the writing.
It says Subaru / part #/ kyb /gas filled/ do not heat.
anyone know if they are original?

The camera flash makes it impossible to read.
Here's is my new setup for the fronts.
02 wrx strut and tophat, 04 sti spring swapped in.

the rears i used 02 wrx strut, 02 wrx springs, and my stock tophats.
Our next step was to reinstall the new strut by sliding it into place and tightening the top, and then the bottom.
we did not line our camber bolts up perfect as we slotted all the strut holes.
we went about 2.5mm towards the engine for the top holes, and 2.5mm towards the wheel for the bottom hole. we then pulled the knuckle from the bottom to get max camber and took it in for an alighnment two days later.
i also noticed after i took the ols struts out that one was bent.
kinda made me happy as the problem was already fixed.
The rear we did the exact same as the front without touching the axels or brakes. just the brake line. and all the strut bolts.
since it was a sedan, we had to remove the back seats. all of which is done with a 12 mm socket.
install for everything was just the reverse of the removal. we zap strapped the brake lines to the struts. and tightened are axel nuts as much as we could until we torqued them to 135 when the car was on the ground.
remember if you are re using any strut bits to loosen the strut top nut while it is in the car to make it easier.
the rear needed some washers. details on that later too.
i'll include the instructions to my strut work later.
here is my alighnment sheet

my rear toe was real bad.
i had over 2.0* camber in the rear
Ride height

I'll have post swap pics and pre's up soon.
CONCLUSION.
I love it.
It may need a lower later on. it dropped about 1/2 inch in the front, and raised the car 1/2 inch in the rear.
The car looks level, not jacked up in the front like stock.
Handling is real nice. the car stays WAY flatter on the corners and it feels like it brakes and accelerates better because of the new stiffness.
My total cost for the front struts and springs all with real low km.
40$ cdn.
NEW axels. 95$ each cdn.
beer, pizza, alighnment ect 120$.
Not bad seeming new kyb's up here are 600 for the set.
the car rides stiffer and feels alot more sporty. I cant wait to get the new tires on!
Update, after 5 days of driving all is still well. almost zero wheelhop and i just cant seem to get the tires to do any squealing.
My first step was to research what I could use and ask lots of newbee

Thanks to everyone who helped.

Excuse me if i miss anything. I'll edit as i go.
First thing i would like to note. I spent 4 hours trying to get the right axel spring pin out, and 4 minutes doing the left. i'll elaborate later.
First thing i did was to pull off the center caps and crack the axel nuts free with a 32mm (1 1/4ish) impact socket. The socket was connected to a 3 foot 300# torque wrench.
i did this with the car on the ground. i ve heard of these nuts being really tough. mine came off with a little force and no swearing.

Then we jacked the car up and took the wheels off. Remeber to use jackstands for safety and because you will be shaking the car around a bit and you don't want it falling.

This is my buddy Keith, he helped out with the project. We were both newbies to it.

Next thing we did was remove the caliper 14mm bolt and then slid the caliper off. We then hung it with a zap strap. Then we loosened off the brake brackets two 17mm bolts for removal and placed everything to the side.
Next we cut the brake line bracket off the strut carefully as not to damage the line. This is optional. You can also disconnect the brake line but then you will have to bleed your brakes We used a zip cut and a steady hand to just knick the bracket and then bent it off with pliers..
We then marked the bolt head side of the camber bolt with a paint marker. We were just getting it close as it was going in for an alighnment two days later anyways.
Next we placed a jack under the knuckle and removed the two strut to knuckle bolts, these are 19mm. After that we loosened off the three 12mm nuts on the top of the strut tower.
Last thing to do is lower the jack slowly and remove the strut. Put it aside.
Now if your doing axels.
We spent 4 hours trying to bang out the spring pin on the inside diff part of the axel. Little did we know, the axel will slide right out of the front diff with a little tug if you have the outside out of the knuckle. The reason we had such a problem is because we used a center punch to get the spring pin out which just jammed everything up.
Here's a look at some of the tools we broke.

If we would have used a proper flat end punch that was the same size as the pin it would have went super easy.
but we didnt.



So, our next step was to remove the axel nut completely. we turned the wheel to the right for doing the left side and to the left to pull out the right side.
Like Ciper said, there is no need to remove a ball joint or anything else if the knuckle bolts are out. The knuckle will move enough to remove the axel. You may need a rubber mallet to get the axel loose.
We then yanked out the axel from the diff side and got rid of the spring pin with the axel on the bench. That way was alot easier. on the second side we did, it took 4 minutes compared to four hours because we removed it from the car and used the proper punch to get the spring pin out.

As you can see, one took 4 hours, the other 4 minutes.
We had new altrom axels put in. we put the new spring pins in the axels with the axels on the bench and then slid them back into the diff.
to do this, line the axel up in the diff and slide it in as far as you can, then hit the outside with a rubber mallet and it should pop in the rest of the diff.
After you get it in, put the outside axel in the knuckle carefully and hand tighten the nut. Have the knuckle ready to jack up so you don't put too much pressure on the new boot.
Back to the struts, this is when we marked the camber bolt for reference before removal.

and here is the stock strut.

looks original, i sanded the paint and dirt off to read the writing.
It says Subaru / part #/ kyb /gas filled/ do not heat.
anyone know if they are original?

The camera flash makes it impossible to read.
Here's is my new setup for the fronts.
02 wrx strut and tophat, 04 sti spring swapped in.

the rears i used 02 wrx strut, 02 wrx springs, and my stock tophats.
Our next step was to reinstall the new strut by sliding it into place and tightening the top, and then the bottom.
we did not line our camber bolts up perfect as we slotted all the strut holes.
we went about 2.5mm towards the engine for the top holes, and 2.5mm towards the wheel for the bottom hole. we then pulled the knuckle from the bottom to get max camber and took it in for an alighnment two days later.
i also noticed after i took the ols struts out that one was bent.
kinda made me happy as the problem was already fixed.

The rear we did the exact same as the front without touching the axels or brakes. just the brake line. and all the strut bolts.
since it was a sedan, we had to remove the back seats. all of which is done with a 12 mm socket.
install for everything was just the reverse of the removal. we zap strapped the brake lines to the struts. and tightened are axel nuts as much as we could until we torqued them to 135 when the car was on the ground.
remember if you are re using any strut bits to loosen the strut top nut while it is in the car to make it easier.
the rear needed some washers. details on that later too.
i'll include the instructions to my strut work later.
here is my alighnment sheet

my rear toe was real bad.
i had over 2.0* camber in the rear
Ride height

I'll have post swap pics and pre's up soon.
CONCLUSION.
I love it.
It may need a lower later on. it dropped about 1/2 inch in the front, and raised the car 1/2 inch in the rear.
The car looks level, not jacked up in the front like stock.

Handling is real nice. the car stays WAY flatter on the corners and it feels like it brakes and accelerates better because of the new stiffness.

My total cost for the front struts and springs all with real low km.
40$ cdn.
NEW axels. 95$ each cdn.
beer, pizza, alighnment ect 120$.
Not bad seeming new kyb's up here are 600 for the set.
the car rides stiffer and feels alot more sporty. I cant wait to get the new tires on!

Update, after 5 days of driving all is still well. almost zero wheelhop and i just cant seem to get the tires to do any squealing.

Last edited by RJ93SS on Mon Mar 30, 2009 7:34 pm, edited 2 times in total.
93SS 04 wrx brakes/slotted w/ hawks--TD05 -- 06 I/C -- 20mm n/a fsb -- Stage 2 -- 550's -- Perrin DIV DP -- 2-3/4 Tit Exhaust -- K&N -- C/C -- A/C Delete -- Grounded -- GT Leather Interior -- WRX/STI Strut Setup -- 17" 225's -- 2 Kids Seats ;)
anyone have an idea of whether or not those struts are stock?
mods, could we change the tread title to something more related?
mods, could we change the tread title to something more related?
93SS 04 wrx brakes/slotted w/ hawks--TD05 -- 06 I/C -- 20mm n/a fsb -- Stage 2 -- 550's -- Perrin DIV DP -- 2-3/4 Tit Exhaust -- K&N -- C/C -- A/C Delete -- Grounded -- GT Leather Interior -- WRX/STI Strut Setup -- 17" 225's -- 2 Kids Seats ;)
With STI springs front and WRX rear, does the tail feel significantly softer than the front? Or are STI springs not much harder than WRX ones?
93 Touring Wagon (EJ20G 5spd Swap) -- Finally back and running strong as ever!
05 Outback 2.5XT 5spd -- Now the wife can have her SUV and get in on the turbo Legacy goodness at the same time.
05 Outback 2.5XT 5spd -- Now the wife can have her SUV and get in on the turbo Legacy goodness at the same time.
230 and 130 i think.
not a huge difference but i don't auto x it.
i do wish for sti rears though, just need some 90-91 rear tops
not a huge difference but i don't auto x it.
i do wish for sti rears though, just need some 90-91 rear tops
Last edited by RJ93SS on Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:23 pm, edited 1 time in total.
93SS 04 wrx brakes/slotted w/ hawks--TD05 -- 06 I/C -- 20mm n/a fsb -- Stage 2 -- 550's -- Perrin DIV DP -- 2-3/4 Tit Exhaust -- K&N -- C/C -- A/C Delete -- Grounded -- GT Leather Interior -- WRX/STI Strut Setup -- 17" 225's -- 2 Kids Seats ;)
What do you want it changed to?RJ93SS wrote:mods, could we change the tread title to something more related?
Josh
surrealmirage.com/subaru
1990 Legacy (AWD, 6MT, & EJ22T Swap)
2020 Outback Limted XT
If you need to get a hold of me please email me rather then pm
surrealmirage.com/subaru
1990 Legacy (AWD, 6MT, & EJ22T Swap)
2020 Outback Limted XT
If you need to get a hold of me please email me rather then pm
thanks Josh.
how about something along the lines of
Strut and axel install how to with pictars!
how about something along the lines of
Strut and axel install how to with pictars!
93SS 04 wrx brakes/slotted w/ hawks--TD05 -- 06 I/C -- 20mm n/a fsb -- Stage 2 -- 550's -- Perrin DIV DP -- 2-3/4 Tit Exhaust -- K&N -- C/C -- A/C Delete -- Grounded -- GT Leather Interior -- WRX/STI Strut Setup -- 17" 225's -- 2 Kids Seats ;)