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 Post subject: N1446's '91 Legacy SS--> 2.5GT Brutus
PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 1:32 am 
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Location: Prince Edward Island CAN
I found the legacy in Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island, and it came with the EJ22T so i named it "Jackson-T"

I traded a '83 Pontiac Firebird 5.0L that had a failing transmission as I saw the legacy was posted for a few months in the classifieds with a tonne of hits, so I called the owner to see why is it still available .

Sure enough the car is still for sale so I arrange to meet the guy. When I arrived at the address and pulled up next to the car, it was sitting under a tree on flat tires covered in pine-needles and seagull crap. It had a rusted out trailer-hitch and busted-ass suspension and the guy wanted 400 $$ for it !!!

The upolstry was rotted out from moisture + fast food and the floor mats were destroyed and there was fog on the inside of the windows on a hot day. Even with the word "TURBO" stamped clearly on the boot, not even the riciest of rice would touch the car, let alone pay for it . Though the motor could be heard smoking, no one would take it for free .

In an act of desperation I offered up the Firebird for straight-trade and the guy jumped on it, 1 hr later I limped the SS home on flat rubber where immediately I began sorting through the junkfood wrappings and de-lousing the carpets and interior. After that I "Vim-ed" the orange stains off the exterior paint, and drained the crud from the oil pan. And *yess thats "Vim" the household cleaner.

Once the initial shock wore off from the smell I took the carpet and floor mats to a nearby carwash to pressure-wash everything three or four times before shampooing; and how the grey carpets turned blu-green no-one knows, o-wait I know ! - I pulled nearly three dollars of tarnished copper pennies from under the floormats / seats ! / endrant

This is the first picture of the car in September '08 after all the above mentioned; I think it cleaned up pretty well concidering .

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I ve been into building go-fast bikes and I m interested in turbo-building, so I m doing the EJ22T/EJ25DOHC / eventually 2.34T hybrid motor, with aims of 350-400 hp in the end .

So far, I ve smashed the #2 piston in the EJ22T and filled the intake with oil,, mysteriously ,, - this 22T is on its way out -- > Archive +

Since August '08, I ve replaced and sealed the sunroof among the other leaks, I removed the original EJ22T and swapped in a 25D from a '98 lego BKGT, resulting in the same name "Jackson," minus the "T" for turbo --Now the cars name is Brutus because it killed that engine and I m on now engine #3, another EJ25D with less Kilometers. This car seems to punish engines more than anything else so you get the idea -> here is the Journal Post

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N1446 Brutus
91 Legacy SS 2.5GT 5mt
Legacy GT Suspension, 16" Fozzy Wheels, 2.5RS OBX EL Headers, Gutted Mid-Pipe, Subaru Catback & AWD BABY !
EJ2.34T on the back-burner - now collecting parts
Check out my website ! SUBARU is love.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 4:58 am 
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**February 2009** Introducing Caesar on the left and Brutus on the right ** I scored the '93 LS 4eat sedan in New Glasgow NS for 250 $$ for suspension & parts ; i took a bus to get the car and drove it back to the Island after repairing a leak in the fuel line ; a bit of a risk though i m always out for another adventure and "com-onn" ' i m mean it s bound to run after a quick once-over right ?! It had a great sunroof among other things so the car became a donor to the SS ; sadly the '93 had too much rust for a salvage project so i had to get rid of it

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Note: in my experience , i drove the 4eat in the -10 degree mornings and it s sloth; though before i killed the '93 it proved reliable for a few months above 0 degrees

I had the LS towed right before the motor swap in June , R.I.P.Caesar

*June '09* this motor is ready to come out >> EJ22T Suicide

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This is the motor after removing the intake and assosiated bolts , just waiting on the right day to rent the hoist -
i have vacation comming + a take-off td04 to play with until then

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N1446 Brutus
91 Legacy SS 2.5GT 5mt
Legacy GT Suspension, 16" Fozzy Wheels, 2.5RS OBX EL Headers, Gutted Mid-Pipe, Subaru Catback & AWD BABY !
EJ2.34T on the back-burner - now collecting parts
Check out my website ! SUBARU is love.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:20 pm 
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good luck doing all that without a garage.....:S

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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2009 3:04 pm 
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nothing like working outside to keep your build spirit soaring

May Update : i rented the spring compressors and assembled the '93 LS rear tops to the '98GT suspension and after fighting the left side strut to fit for the better half an hour , i actually managed to install it on the wrong corner , it wasn t until i began to install the break line clip that i noticed i d recieved a major F - for assembly
- the 2nd install followed shortly after the de-install of the previous F.A.I.L.

FTR , the correct corners fit much easier A++
- camber bolts may be a B*tcH without WD40!!
- MY'96-'99 springs & struts need MY'93-'94 rear tops to fit MY'91-'92 rear
- MY'91 SS rear springs are tapered at the top

- all 4 corners are now correct and i m pleased with the result
as for the '98GT spoke wheels , they re on a 2000 outback for the summer
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91 Legacy SS 2.5GT 5mt
Legacy GT Suspension, 16" Fozzy Wheels, 2.5RS OBX EL Headers, Gutted Mid-Pipe, Subaru Catback & AWD BABY !
EJ2.34T on the back-burner - now collecting parts
Check out my website ! SUBARU is love.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:53 am 
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Next Update

I rented a hoist this weekend as the EJ25D is now here in running condition - Yahoo ! Paid Vaction !!

The 22T is now removed and waiting for a rainyday , as it turns out the 2.34 stroker build is pulling a 180 due to time and fund$ available
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here are the pics from this weekend

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! THIS GETS UGGLY !

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91 Legacy SS 2.5GT 5mt
Legacy GT Suspension, 16" Fozzy Wheels, 2.5RS OBX EL Headers, Gutted Mid-Pipe, Subaru Catback & AWD BABY !
EJ2.34T on the back-burner - now collecting parts
Check out my website ! SUBARU is love.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:27 am 
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That CAN be resleeved. Not the high performance sleeves, but just a new iron sleeve. I had this done with an EJ207.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:39 am 
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Nice cylinder! :smt103 :smt103

How long was the engine run like that lol?

I like how you said "this 2.2 is on its way out"...understatment of the BBS year lol.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:12 am 
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OUCH!

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:13 am 
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Holy crap. That puts my little ringland failure to shame.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 5:17 am 
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Hone it out and put in new rings, you'll be fine :-D

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 4:27 pm 
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ok here is the question of the day ; this block is headed for a 2.34 stroker build , - will boaring the cylinders oversized be enough to clean-up the scars or are the scars too deep in this case ?

pardon the punn

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91 Legacy SS 2.5GT 5mt
Legacy GT Suspension, 16" Fozzy Wheels, 2.5RS OBX EL Headers, Gutted Mid-Pipe, Subaru Catback & AWD BABY !
EJ2.34T on the back-burner - now collecting parts
Check out my website ! SUBARU is love.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:07 pm 
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... woah. Pardon the ignorance, but were you driving the car when that sucker went??

I remember doing sleeves with my old man when I was a kid... dry ice on the inside, 2 torches on the outside and they nearly fell out of the bores.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:26 pm 
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That's definite resleeve territory. A bore won't get that and still leave enough of the iron wall.

Before you resleeve, price out a replacement block or have yours thoughly checked. That rod was geting hit hard and it wouldn't suprise me if the crank was bent/damaged or the mains need to be line bored.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:27 pm 
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fishbone79 wrote:
... woah. Pardon the ignorance, but were you driving the car when that sucker went??


thankfully No
the car was sitting after it begain knocking one day - i began trouble shooting the noise in the driveway and after a few months of it running with heavy rod knock , that is this end result - exactally how it looked when i removed the head on cylinder 3

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91 Legacy SS 2.5GT 5mt
Legacy GT Suspension, 16" Fozzy Wheels, 2.5RS OBX EL Headers, Gutted Mid-Pipe, Subaru Catback & AWD BABY !
EJ2.34T on the back-burner - now collecting parts
Check out my website ! SUBARU is love.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:36 pm 
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PhyrraM wrote:
Before you resleeve, price out a replacement block or have yours thoughly checked. That rod was geting hit hard and it wouldn't suprise me if the crank was bent/damaged or the mains need to be line bored.


i m only using the block from what is left , there will be 25D crank and rods in it after all , - When i get around to splitting the case , what am i to expect as a result of the damage ?

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N1446 Brutus
91 Legacy SS 2.5GT 5mt
Legacy GT Suspension, 16" Fozzy Wheels, 2.5RS OBX EL Headers, Gutted Mid-Pipe, Subaru Catback & AWD BABY !
EJ2.34T on the back-burner - now collecting parts
Check out my website ! SUBARU is love.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:50 pm 
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Dude i really would not use that block.This is a lot of work to risk anything because of shit like that.I have two junk blocks in my shop that a crank wont spin in and all they did was overheat badly.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:41 am 
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You should have that block hot tanked and inspected for microfractures (seismically / acoustically or with the florescent dye) if you're really considering using it. It would not be a big surprise if the bottom of that bore was messed up, but I have seen worse revived... It was a tractor engine though ;)

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:50 am 
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The only thing I would use that block for is serious sleeves, 14mm studs, a line bore and mod for a 257 crank.


Otherwise, make a robot out of it or something.




Or, I'll give you $150 shipped for it....

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:04 pm 
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it s not in the forcast to sell the block , the 2.57 crank idea is attractive , though originally the idea is to put the 25D crank and rods in there until i work out a reasonable set up for turbo , ecu etc ..

i m collecting parts for the spring again and more likely i ll have the block checked over the winter months

i m not kidding when i say there are no s00bies to pick from on this island
tis' why i grabbed the '93 for parts in another province !!

the wear is a bit excessive for 164 000 klm and has me puzzled , - the car is originally from Ontario

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N1446 Brutus
91 Legacy SS 2.5GT 5mt
Legacy GT Suspension, 16" Fozzy Wheels, 2.5RS OBX EL Headers, Gutted Mid-Pipe, Subaru Catback & AWD BABY !
EJ2.34T on the back-burner - now collecting parts
Check out my website ! SUBARU is love.


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93forestpearl wrote:
The only thing I would use that block for is serious sleeves, 14mm studs, a line bore and mod for a 257 crank.


Otherwise, make a robot out of it or something.




Or, I'll give you $150 shipped for it....



Robot....rofl! :-D

The reason there are no Subarus left on the island is because all your buddies drove them to Alberta to get a job in the oil patch. :P :-D :P

Good luck with your build!


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:27 pm 
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yeah no kidding
i aim to eventually be headding west myself !
i hear the weather is Much more reliable !
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as for the latest updates , they re only cosmetic and it looks as if it may be ready for the fall
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The 2.5L install is covered in the Journal Post along with anything else releated to the EJ25 , this page is originally meant for the 2.34T build
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.. fiberglass repair and pinstripe blackout complete
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N1446 Brutus
91 Legacy SS 2.5GT 5mt
Legacy GT Suspension, 16" Fozzy Wheels, 2.5RS OBX EL Headers, Gutted Mid-Pipe, Subaru Catback & AWD BABY !
EJ2.34T on the back-burner - now collecting parts
Check out my website ! SUBARU is love.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:59 pm 
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Did you paint the chrome strips or tape them? Or rip them out I can't tell.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:39 pm 
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it s a nasty effort , i peeled the chrome strip and it left a thick white double-sided adhesive layer behind ; i used brake fluid and a flat head screwdriver to soften the adhesive and scrape\maul\chissel it away

took like an hr

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91 Legacy SS 2.5GT 5mt
Legacy GT Suspension, 16" Fozzy Wheels, 2.5RS OBX EL Headers, Gutted Mid-Pipe, Subaru Catback & AWD BABY !
EJ2.34T on the back-burner - now collecting parts
Check out my website ! SUBARU is love.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:14 pm 
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I peeled the chrome from the back bumper because it was already coming off. I used electrical tape on the sides and front bumper but it's pretty difficult to get it on there perfectly and I think I'll eventually end up removing the rest of the chrome.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 6:45 pm 
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yeah - not to mention its a weight reduction so it has to be faster now too

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91 Legacy SS 2.5GT 5mt
Legacy GT Suspension, 16" Fozzy Wheels, 2.5RS OBX EL Headers, Gutted Mid-Pipe, Subaru Catback & AWD BABY !
EJ2.34T on the back-burner - now collecting parts
Check out my website ! SUBARU is love.


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