another "will this bolt in" engine question.

legacycontinues · Post by **legacycontinues** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 4:56 am

I found a 90-94 JDM EJ20 (no TT but it will do for now) that is close to my house. I am wondering if it will bolt in. Same or like sensors? Any problems getting it to bolt up to tranny or mounts?

Any advice would be greatfull. I still have my legacy but I am in the air about replacing the engine or selling it/parting it out.

Please see the auction I would be buying it from. They claim it will bolt up and wire up easily....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... AMEWA%3AIT

legacycontinues · Post by **legacycontinues** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 6:00 pm

Auction ends soon......somebody? Anybody??? How bout it Josh?

Can the tranny stay put if I pull the engine???

Any tips/tricks to pulling the engine.

THAWA · Post by **THAWA** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 2:26 am

http://bbs.legacycentral.org/viewtopic.php?t=20800

http://bbs.legacycentral.org/search.php

some keywords to try: lego, trans, tranny, engine, motor, ej, bolt, etc

If it really is a DOHC as the title says it's a turbo engine.

vrg3 · Post by **vrg3** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 2:54 am

I wonder what "the engine up for bid is the 4 injectir engine not the multi port injection engine" means.

scottzg · Post by **scottzg** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 2:57 am

I thought the base model jdm engine was a dohc na 2.0?

THAWA · Post by **THAWA** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 3:09 am

I think the base base base JDM legacy engine was a carb NA SOHC 1.6. There was also a carb 1.8 NA SOHC, SPFI 1.8 NA SOHC, MPFI 2.0 NA SOHC, and a MPFI 2.2 NA SOHC.

THAWA · Post by **THAWA** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 3:12 am

vrg3 wrote:I wonder what "the engine up for bid is the 4 injectir engine not the multi port injection engine" means.

Good question, that's the same thing. Maybe he mean't not the single port injection engine?

THAWA · Post by **THAWA** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 3:13 am

legacycontinues wrote:Auction ends soon

7days and 21 hours is soon?

legacycontinues · Post by **legacycontinues** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 3:31 am

Sorry about the soon thing. I just wanted to get as much info as possible so I could be an educated consumer.

I will make the trip to Miami to pick it up if I know for sure it will bolt up and wire-in with little to no modification.

I too was also wondering about the turbo issue. Do you think it has been robbed of it's turbos?

Will I have an issue with the ECU? Will exhaust be an issue? Single or dual port?

I actually did do a bit of searching beofre posting. There we some threads about similar items. such as someone wanting to put the engine out of a 22B in thier legacy, which was helpfull actually, but I want to know if for sure I can use my stock ECU seeng as how both engines are N/A.

Will the 2.0 DOHC N/A produce more power then the 2.2 SOHC N/A??

THAWA · Post by **THAWA** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 3:34 am

It would most likely be higher priced if it had turbos. And I'm fairly sure they would have put that in the auction. EJ's didn't start coming single port until 97 or so.

snowjob · Post by **snowjob** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 3:50 am

it's an ej22 NON turbo, you can see it's single cam by the cam covers, It also looks like the cam cover on the right is dammaged, make sure you check the cam sproket for dammage, I've got the ej20T and it does not look like this engine. Hope this helps
Frazer

vrg3 · Post by **vrg3** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 3:55 am

The auction description says the picture isn't of the actual motor for sale.

As far as I can see at the moment, you should be able to use your stock ECU if the engine uses waste spark and if you can put your stock injectors on it. It should work passably if not well.

legacycontinues · Post by **legacycontinues** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 4:37 am

If you look at the picture you will notice it says EJ20 on the belt cover along with an ebay item number.

Seller screw up or is he just a dumb ass by selling EJ22's as EJ20's???

I also remember reading that the EJ20 had on-plug coils and not a coil pack like the EJ22 has.

THAWA · Post by **THAWA** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 4:43 am

The DOHC turbo engines have coil-on-plug. Re-read this thread, it's possible that particular engine is a 2.0

legacycontinues · Post by **legacycontinues** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 5:37 am

I sent the seller a question and asked him if he would be so kind as to take a picture of the actual engine for sale.

I know what the auction says but at the same time it says "see picture below." Then it goes on to say, "Please note it is not the engine in the picture, but one of the same quality."

The engine picture looks like an EJ22 but says EJ20 on it. Would the EJ20 DOHC look similar to the EJ25 with the cams on the side?

Please forgive me if I sound like an idiot but the engine I buy is going to go into my daily driver so I need something I can drop in and go with relative ease. I do not have another car to drive so I am doing this as quick as possible and on a small budget.

I have not taken possesion of the DL yet so that is still out of the question. Besides my wife thinks it is ugly. I think she is crazy......

vrg3 · Post by **vrg3** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 5:51 am

My unsolicited advice: If you need something you can drop in and run, don't buy this engine. It's not well-described; that indicates a seller who doesn't really care about selling the item, doesn't know what's being sold, and/or wants the buyer to be unsure about what is being sold. You don't know exactly what you'll be getting and will almost certainly have to do some monkeying around to make it work.

Could you maybe try to get a North American EJ22?

legacycontinues · Post by **legacycontinues** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 5:57 am

I could pick up the 20 for 390 and go get it but I can't find a 22 locally for anything close to that.

What does it cost to ship an engine...on an average.

Remember....I don't have a car. I need mine back on the road quick or I need to sell it and put the funds towards another car.

vrg3 · Post by **vrg3** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 6:04 am

It'd probably cost a Benjamin or two to ship an engine, I would think. Maybe you could team up with someone who has some free time and lives near a pick-a-part yard in the mid-Atlantic or Northeast where wrecked Legacies are fairly common.

Matt Monson · Post by **Matt Monson** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 4:53 pm

The engine in the picture is probably a SOHC EJ20NA. And it appears to be wated spark ignition. It should bolt right into your car.

There are also DOHC EJ20NA's that do look a lot like an EJ25 DOHC engine. They were released in the late 90's and are pretty easy to come by.

I answered your PM and sent you some thoughts. As I indicated in my message, I would not replace an Ej22 with an NAEj20 because of fueling issues. The car will always run rich because it is going to think that you are fueling for 2.2l of displacement...

vrg3 · Post by **vrg3** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 5:38 pm

Matt Monson wrote:The car will always run rich because it is going to think that you are fueling for 2.2l of displacement...

That's not correct; it fuels based on mass air flow. As long as the ECU, MAF sensor, and injectors are matched up the fueling will be mostly correct. It might be slightly off under certain circumstances, but it'll mostly work, especially with the primitive fuel control of the Hitachi ECU. The more important difference in engine management is likely to be spark control.

legacycontinues · Post by **legacycontinues** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 11:37 pm

So whats the general concensus? Should I do it???

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another "will this bolt in" engine question.

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