ABS Removing

[rally370]

Anyone removed the ABS system?? I don't use it and could do with the space to fit a remote oil filter.

Cheers

Chris

[ej22t]

Ask Nuwan, he did remove it and ask him how!!!

Ben

[Legacy777]

The hard part I would think is routing the brake lines coming from the MC to the lines leaving the abs unit That might get tricky IMO.

[vrg3]

Nuwan replaced all the brake lines with custom ones because he went super custom with an adjustable prop valve in the center console. He lost the dual-diagonal safety system though.

If you've got lots of money you could just replace all the hard lines with stainless steel braided line from Earl's or Aeroquip or somesuch. All the fittings are M10x1.0 inverted flare, I believe.

From a functional point of view, you basically need to replace the ABS hydraulic unit with two tees.

[tris91ricer]

I've asked Vikash the inverse of this question, on how to swap the ABS stuff over to my 92 when doing my engine swap.. Its difficult to be frank. There're so many parts! Do you need the space, or are you just looking to eliminate the entire thing for weight?

[rally370]

Bothspace and weight.But I have to check the PGT rules first as it might not be legal.

Cheers

Chris

[NuwanD]

lol, that's what i'm doing with that space... remote oil filter... that way i don't have to pull the massive skidplate off to do an oil change

i did a little write-up here... http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/322940/3

finally got a hold of a friends digital camera so i'll add some pics soon i hope

[NuwanD]

new edited writeup with pics here: http://spda-online.ca/modules/newbb/vie ... 0&forum=10

[rally370]

Well just got around to removing the ABS unit this weekend.Took about an hour in total with bleeding.
I like the brake set up as is so I don't won't to change it.
So all I needed to do was remove the ABS unit and "T" up the lines. "T" came from the rear axle of a 1984 RWD Toyota Corolla (need 2)in breakers yard.
Next un-did the pipes from the ABS unit and then connected the "T' same set up .Removed ABS unit and then carefuly bent the pipes so both "T" mounting holes lined up and bolted the "T"s to the inner fender,then made a support bracket to hold it all and then bled the brakes.OK it does look a little messy but works OK.
I might do a neater job later,but Rim is only a week away.

Cheers

Chris

[Bosco]

rally370, How did the setup hold up?
How many others have done this? (I have done some searching and the only useful stuff I found was this thread, and the link posted by NuwanD.)

First off, My ABS works fine, but I really don't like it.

AM I a fool for wanting to remove my ABS?
My reasoning:
1: I just don't like it... I prefer to be able to work the pedal how I want, and I live where it snows quite alot. The ABS annoys me almost daily in the winter.

2: I have a VW GTI intercooler I want to mount in my fender, and I'll have to route pipes through the spot where the ABS is.. (IC fits... kinda... it has to sit at a slightly funky angle, but there is still plenty of potential airflow in there).

I realize I could have started a new thread for this, but this one being active lately, I thought I'd ask in here... I also couldn't decide on wether this should be in the Intercooling section, or here... seems like both are appropriate.

The intercooler thing is just something I want to do because:

A: I don't want the hassle of figuring my way through a complex AWIC setup.
B: It would be way easier (and less ugly) than a FMIC (and I'm not looking
to go super high HP anyway)
C: I am not so inspired to go TMIC because it IS a cooling device, and I
don't want it to be right on top of my engine within a couple feet of the
hottest thing under the hood.

Has ANYONE else other than rally370 and NuwanD actually done this?

Any major safety issues other than making sure all connections are secure and proper?

I put my main questons here in bold text.

[ej22t]

I don't like the ABS too, but the way I do is just pull the ABS fuse at the fuse and leave it has the ABS light turned on all the time at the dash. Or you could put a switch to turn on or off whenever you like.

Ben

[Bosco]

I realize I could pull the fuse or put in a switch, but if i do as I am thinking with the IC, I would need to remove the whole ABS assembly.

Nobody has 2 more cents to drop in on this subject?

[vrg3]

AM I a fool for wanting to remove my ABS?

Not necessarily. ABS is a tremendously useful safety feature, but there are also enough times when it hinders safety that disabling it can be worth considering, particularly when you need its space for something else.

Has ANYONE else other than rally370 and NuwanD actually done this?

I think Nico (NICO I WRX U) -- or maybe his dad -- did it too.

Any major safety issues other than making sure all connections are secure and proper?

Any time you do custom brake lines you also have to worry about how vibration will affect them over time. In the long term, vibration work hardens steel and can cause it to eventually fail. Thankfully, our cars should provide you with good routing paths and plenty of places to rigidly mount the lines, and the parts you're dealing with won't move independently much anyway.

Make sure you do a good job bending the tubing so it doesn't kink or anything. Any tubing going to a flare fitting should be as close as possible to perpendicular to the flare; otherwise it may not seat properly.

If you do it Nuwan's way, the loss of the dual diagonal braking system is an important safety concern. The main reason to do it that way is to allow the use of an aftermarket prop valve, though, which doesn't sound like something you're aching for.

[BAC5.2]

If I had done what Nuwan did, I'd have totaled the Legacy a week ago when my brakes failed at the end of my neighborhood. I stopped just short of the main road and oncoming traffic.

[vrg3]

Nah, you'd actually have been okay, Phil, since you would have had both front brakes active. Nuwan would likely be screwed if he ever tore a front brake line or something though.