About Radiators...
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About Radiators...
Okay. As most of you probably don't know or care to know, I sprung a leak in my passenger's side radiator end tank.
I tried patching it, but nothing works, as plastic end tanks just suck.
Looking around, I have seen radiators for Standard/Heavy Duty cooling, and for Max cooling. The S/HD radiator is only a 1-row, while the Max cooling radiator is 2-row. These showed up when looking for my '91 turbo.
My question is this: is the 2-row the only thing that came in the turbos, or were they available with a 1-row?
I know I could probably get away with a 1-row replacement, but since someone else is footing the bill, I figured why not at LEAST replace is with the same.
Also, I am going to call up a local racing radiator shop and see what it would cost to get an all-aluminum radiator fabricated up. I know it will be a goodly bit more, but I figure I might as well find out so the info is out there.
If it's not too much more, I may see if I can convince my dad to spring for it for my b-day.......
I tried patching it, but nothing works, as plastic end tanks just suck.
Looking around, I have seen radiators for Standard/Heavy Duty cooling, and for Max cooling. The S/HD radiator is only a 1-row, while the Max cooling radiator is 2-row. These showed up when looking for my '91 turbo.
My question is this: is the 2-row the only thing that came in the turbos, or were they available with a 1-row?
I know I could probably get away with a 1-row replacement, but since someone else is footing the bill, I figured why not at LEAST replace is with the same.
Also, I am going to call up a local racing radiator shop and see what it would cost to get an all-aluminum radiator fabricated up. I know it will be a goodly bit more, but I figure I might as well find out so the info is out there.
If it's not too much more, I may see if I can convince my dad to spring for it for my b-day.......
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That being said, everything I post is accurate to the best of my knowledge.
Rio Red '91 Legacy SS
That being said, everything I post is accurate to the best of my knowledge.
Rio Red '91 Legacy SS
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Wow..... 36 views and no responses.
I'm shocked.
After looking around, I believe that the 2-row was the only thing that came in the turbos.
The radiator shop was busy, so I wasn't able to get a quote today. I'll try again tomorrow and post up what I find out.
I'm shocked.
After looking around, I believe that the 2-row was the only thing that came in the turbos.
The radiator shop was busy, so I wasn't able to get a quote today. I'll try again tomorrow and post up what I find out.
Disclaimer: If anything I post is inaccurate, please correct me. I do not wish to add to the misinformation floating around on the internet.
That being said, everything I post is accurate to the best of my knowledge.
Rio Red '91 Legacy SS
That being said, everything I post is accurate to the best of my knowledge.
Rio Red '91 Legacy SS
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Yeah... I'm shocked too. I've never had to do anything with my radiator except lean it towards the engine so my IC pipes will sneak by it, or else I'd have something useful to say.
All I know is the 2-core stock turbo radiators are way more efficient than they have to be. Overdesigned, just like the block. Which I personally love.
What's a replacement stocker cost ya?
All I know is the 2-core stock turbo radiators are way more efficient than they have to be. Overdesigned, just like the block. Which I personally love.
What's a replacement stocker cost ya?
-Chris
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Customizing IC pipes is way easier than having a radiator made. Dent 'em, or get some diesel truck formed coolant hoses to go around strange bends.
The stock radiator is freakin great. I, also, have never had the temperature move anywhere once it warmed to the halfway point.
I might add that, in comparison, Saturns' cooling systems are crap. They all (at least, all the 1.9L models) had a single-core, and their idea of temperature control was to just open the thermostat at 1/4 temperature, and then almost at temp redline it would finally engage the radiator fan, until it was back down at 1/4. Idling in traffic and in drive-thru lines is scary in a Saturn.
Thank Jeebus for my Legacy
The stock radiator is freakin great. I, also, have never had the temperature move anywhere once it warmed to the halfway point.
I might add that, in comparison, Saturns' cooling systems are crap. They all (at least, all the 1.9L models) had a single-core, and their idea of temperature control was to just open the thermostat at 1/4 temperature, and then almost at temp redline it would finally engage the radiator fan, until it was back down at 1/4. Idling in traffic and in drive-thru lines is scary in a Saturn.
Thank Jeebus for my Legacy
-Chris
91SS 4EAT stock
91SS 5MT awaiting engine rebuild and VF36...
92SS 4EAT - RIP
94SS 5MT4.11+rLSD 289k km: RobTune550,TD05-16g @ 18psi,FMIC,3"TBE,Forester lift
91SS 4EAT stock
91SS 5MT awaiting engine rebuild and VF36...
92SS 4EAT - RIP
94SS 5MT4.11+rLSD 289k km: RobTune550,TD05-16g @ 18psi,FMIC,3"TBE,Forester lift
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Yeah. I like the robustness of the cooling system, which is why I want to stick with the 2-core radiator.
I just got a call back from the radiator shop. They said it'd be ~$450-$550 and they'd need one to use as a template. That was for an all-aluminum unit.
List price for an OEM radiator is $365.
I'm just gonna get an Advance Auto Parts radiator for $214 with a lifetime guarantee.
I just got a call back from the radiator shop. They said it'd be ~$450-$550 and they'd need one to use as a template. That was for an all-aluminum unit.
List price for an OEM radiator is $365.
I'm just gonna get an Advance Auto Parts radiator for $214 with a lifetime guarantee.
Disclaimer: If anything I post is inaccurate, please correct me. I do not wish to add to the misinformation floating around on the internet.
That being said, everything I post is accurate to the best of my knowledge.
Rio Red '91 Legacy SS
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At least this way, I have a lifetime guarantee.
I may see about a custom unit later, but for now.....
I may see about a custom unit later, but for now.....
Disclaimer: If anything I post is inaccurate, please correct me. I do not wish to add to the misinformation floating around on the internet.
That being said, everything I post is accurate to the best of my knowledge.
Rio Red '91 Legacy SS
That being said, everything I post is accurate to the best of my knowledge.
Rio Red '91 Legacy SS
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Had this been resolved yet? Let me know if you still need a cap...dzx wrote:Yeh, its a great radiator until the endtank blows.
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1973 Porsche 914 2.0 l -Suby swap pending
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2000 2.5RS daily driver.
1999 2.5RS w/ 50+ extra whp
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That's what I figured.
Also, I made sure that it had the integral tranny cooler. They kept quoting me for a 1-row. I had to tell them it was a 2-row from the factory to get them to order it (I dunno why they were being so stubborn).
Also, I made sure that it had the integral tranny cooler. They kept quoting me for a 1-row. I had to tell them it was a 2-row from the factory to get them to order it (I dunno why they were being so stubborn).
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That being said, everything I post is accurate to the best of my knowledge.
Rio Red '91 Legacy SS
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I might apply there, since the fine folks at Best Buy are being a bunch of biotches (said they'd hire me back after firing me for going to Australia for the holidays. Ignored me for over 2 weeks, and just today they said 'we filled all the positions'......).
I called HR on their butts, so hopefully I can get something done......
My new radiator should be here tomorrow morning. I got a new upper rad hose to compliment my new lower hose. Got worm clamps to replace the stock wire ones. Also, got some Slick 50 radiator flush stuff.
I called HR on their butts, so hopefully I can get something done......
My new radiator should be here tomorrow morning. I got a new upper rad hose to compliment my new lower hose. Got worm clamps to replace the stock wire ones. Also, got some Slick 50 radiator flush stuff.
Disclaimer: If anything I post is inaccurate, please correct me. I do not wish to add to the misinformation floating around on the internet.
That being said, everything I post is accurate to the best of my knowledge.
Rio Red '91 Legacy SS
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Rio Red '91 Legacy SS
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Sounds like a plan.
OK -- so most times, not some times. On occasion, I have encountered an intelligent indiduhvidual behind the counter.
OK -- so most times, not some times. On occasion, I have encountered an intelligent indiduhvidual behind the counter.
-Chris
91SS 4EAT stock
91SS 5MT awaiting engine rebuild and VF36...
92SS 4EAT - RIP
94SS 5MT4.11+rLSD 289k km: RobTune550,TD05-16g @ 18psi,FMIC,3"TBE,Forester lift
91SS 4EAT stock
91SS 5MT awaiting engine rebuild and VF36...
92SS 4EAT - RIP
94SS 5MT4.11+rLSD 289k km: RobTune550,TD05-16g @ 18psi,FMIC,3"TBE,Forester lift
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Oh, well.
Got the new radiator into the car. Now it's back running.
Now I just need to completely refill the system. I also threw in a bottle of coolant passage cleaner. I'm going to change my coolant to get it out later.
Got the new radiator into the car. Now it's back running.
Now I just need to completely refill the system. I also threw in a bottle of coolant passage cleaner. I'm going to change my coolant to get it out later.
Disclaimer: If anything I post is inaccurate, please correct me. I do not wish to add to the misinformation floating around on the internet.
That being said, everything I post is accurate to the best of my knowledge.
Rio Red '91 Legacy SS
That being said, everything I post is accurate to the best of my knowledge.
Rio Red '91 Legacy SS
Had the same problem in my 93 turbo wagon.
In Vancouver the cost of the stock replacement was
$810 cdn.Instead, put in a Koyo aluminum rad, made
to fit.
It has about 35% more cooling capacity, is very shiny
and cost $420 cdn.
bobhoye@shaw.ca
In Vancouver the cost of the stock replacement was
$810 cdn.Instead, put in a Koyo aluminum rad, made
to fit.
It has about 35% more cooling capacity, is very shiny
and cost $420 cdn.
bobhoye@shaw.ca
Subtle (normally aspirated engines suck):
05 Legacy GT Wagon with Cobb chip.
62 Alfa Romeo Spider- had a 1.6 L with 80 hp, now 2 L with 160 torque. Curb weight 2050 lbs.
93 Leg Twgn fmic, vf34, etc. ((sold))
05 Legacy GT Wagon with Cobb chip.
62 Alfa Romeo Spider- had a 1.6 L with 80 hp, now 2 L with 160 torque. Curb weight 2050 lbs.
93 Leg Twgn fmic, vf34, etc. ((sold))