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Imprezive · Post by **Imprezive** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 3:19 am

There isn't really any point to this, but I was wondering how come there isnt any forum for the N/A legacies? I know that most parts are the same but I think it would be cool if there was a place to go to find engine mods to squeeze the most out of my 2.2L

entirelyturbo · Post by **entirelyturbo** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 4:31 am

And why isn't this a forum for N/A Legacies?

scottzg · Post by **scottzg** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 5:26 am

ej22 NA tuning is a waste of time and $. Why dedicate a forum to it?

tris91ricer · Post by **tris91ricer** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 6:46 pm

Both scott and imprezive have a point. While going fast is great, it seems to be the consensus on this board to just go turbo, and don't fuck around with an NA. Responsibly, with gas prices the way they are. . . NAs kick ass.

But seriously, this board used to be cool when I joined. Now most of you are turbo elitists. I'm not kidding.

Post by **Legacy777** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 7:28 pm

Turbo elitists.....hah....you're funny tristan

Irregardless, I would say the majority of the people who own these cars don't have tons of money to spend on them. The bottom line is that to get any sort of power out of the n/a motor, you've got to spend some serious cash. It's just not worth it when you can do a turbo swap/conversion for less/about the same money and get far more power potentional.

legacy92ej22t · Post by **legacy92ej22t** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 7:35 pm

Plus, N/A power mods already fall under the "engine" forum don't they?

Post by **Legacy777** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 7:35 pm

legacy92ej22t wrote:Plus, N/A power mods already fall under the "engine" forum don't they?

yes.

Manarius · Post by **Manarius** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 7:56 pm

91legacy_sleeper wrote:Responsibly, with gas prices the way they are. . . NAs kick ass.

Then why is my gas mileage so piss poor?

NOTE: This question is rhetorical.

Post by **DLC** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 12:30 am

There's no reason these forums can not be as useful for the boost-deprived (like me). The only forums NOT usable would be those related directly to the turbo system, e.g. Turbo and Intercooling. Everything else is shared.

BTW, as fun as a turbo is, i really can't complain about my strong NA engine. Cobb/TWE EL headers or a Random cat section is the last affordable key to making this car even better.

Imprezive · Post by **Imprezive** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 3:56 am

Ya I know there is no real potential in the N/A but like Legacy said, I don't really have the money or the ability to go pick up a turbo engine, let alone the whole car. It was just a suggestion anyways, I am pretty much just too lazy to look for information

scottzg · Post by **scottzg** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 4:02 am

If you don't have the money to go turbo, there's probably better things to spend your money on anyway.

There are no bolt on parts that will make gains that a passenger would notice. Cams are probably your best bet, but they're not terribly easy to install.

THAWA · Post by **THAWA** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 4:55 am

They actually are pretty easy to install. just remove the timing belt and cam sprockets, pop off the valve covers, remove the rocker arm assembly, and change the cams. May not even have to remove the rocker assembly, but it's quick to do.

tris91ricer · Post by **tris91ricer** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 7:49 pm

I understand the bang-for-buck reasons to go FI, and a dialed-in turbo car can be a very memorable and lasting car.
It's just that when people ask about NAs, I'm noticing that the majority are being told to simply "go turbo" or "get a turbo". There are only so many turbo engines to go 'round. . . we can't ALL have one.

Manarius · Post by **Manarius** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 8:44 pm

Legacy777 wrote:Irregardless, I would say the majority of the people who own these cars don't have tons of money to spend on them. The bottom line is that to get any sort of power out of the n/a motor, you've got to spend some serious cash. It's just not worth it when you can do a turbo swap/conversion for less/about the same money and get far more power potentional.

And look who's doing an engine swap to a turbo

scottzg · Post by **scottzg** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 9:38 pm

91legacy_sleeper wrote:I understand the bang-for-buck reasons to go FI, and a dialed-in turbo car can be a very memorable and lasting car.
It's just that when people ask about NAs, I'm noticing that the majority are being told to simply "go turbo" or "get a turbo". There are only so many turbo engines to go 'round. . . we can't ALL have one.

you're just jealous.

-K- · Post by **-K-** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 6:37 am

It's not my fault that I knew I wanted some power so I got a turbo to start with.
I also don't know jack about 2.2N/A power mods so I let Matt answer them.

Manarius · Post by **Manarius** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:13 pm

scottzg wrote:you're just jealous.

Turbo is just one more thing to break. I like my car 'cause it runs when no one else's does. My car doesn't go to the shop. Every other car we've had has been in the shop for something or other.

sillyp · Post by **sillyp** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 8:54 pm

Manarius wrote:Turbo is just one more thing to break

word

legacy92ej22t · Post by **legacy92ej22t** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 9:59 pm

Uh, ya, ok guys. Guys turbos are just failing left and right, huh? I think since I've been here I know of 1 maybe 2 oem turbos that have actualy "broke".

scottzg · Post by **scottzg** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 10:42 pm

Manarius wrote:
Turbo is just one more thing to break.

you're just jealous too.

LaureltheQueen · Post by **LaureltheQueen** » Thu Aug 25, 2005 12:35 am

Manarius wrote:
scottzg wrote:you're just jealous.
Turbo is just one more thing to break. I like my car 'cause it runs when no one else's does. My car doesn't go to the shop. Every other car we've had has been in the shop for something or other.

That's odd. My turbo car is significantly more reliable than tristans naturally aspirated car.

Another reason to go FI, when we were driving along I-5 through southern oregon, tristan's car was LABORING to keep up with us. When altitude is a factor, FI for the win.

AWD_addict · Post by **AWD_addict** » Thu Aug 25, 2005 2:19 am

When any weight other than a small passenger is added, NA's are barely adequate. I like the cargo space of my wagon, but I question the powerplant choice everytime I load it up.

NA vs. turbo is really budget-based, unless you're crazy about using less gas or something similiar.

Manarius · Post by **Manarius** » Thu Aug 25, 2005 3:36 am

LaureltheQueen wrote:That's odd. My turbo car is significantly more reliable than tristans naturally aspirated car.

Another reason to go FI, when we were driving along I-5 through southern oregon, tristan's car was LABORING to keep up with us. When altitude is a factor, FI for the win.

Tristan was driving that car. Of course it was laboring. I'm sorry, but my NA may be no Turbo, but I'm no slacker when I'm moving. From dead stop, it's slow, but I have no problem keeping up with other cars; especially on hills.

scottzg · Post by **scottzg** » Thu Aug 25, 2005 5:26 am

Manarius wrote: Tristan was driving that car. Of course it was laboring. I'm sorry, but my NA may be no Turbo, but I'm no slacker when I'm moving. From dead stop, it's slow, but I have no problem keeping up with other cars; especially on hills.

sour grapes.

tris91ricer · Post by **tris91ricer** » Thu Aug 25, 2005 6:55 pm

Hey uh, fuck you guys. yeah.

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