Ej22e with Delta cams dyno'd...

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Ej22e with Delta cams dyno'd...

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So,
as some of you know, the Ej20G with Ej22T heads I built met an untimely death with a timing belt accident that was not of my doing. Anyways, the owner needed the car back on the road with a quickness, so I built him another engine.

It is a 1990 Legacy Ej22E engine with Delta cams installed. He's using Ej22T pink injectors. He also has a set of Borla headers on it. Lastly, it is tuned with the E-manage that used to be for the turbo car. He got 110whp and 120tq on MacSport's dyno in Denver. For comparison, a stock 2.5RS puts down 100-105whp on the same dyno. So, I figure we're talking about roughly 170-175 to the crank. Not to shabby for a 15 year old engine with 125k mi on it and originally rated at 140hp...

In short, if you haven't considered Delta cams, think about it. For $165 you can't go wrong. CCR in Denver has been using them on their rebuilds for years. And the cams are ultimately Comp cams sold by Delta...
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where can I get a set for my E25 DOHC?
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Post by skid542 »

Matt, I've heard you talking about the cams before and have kept a keen interest. Is this a mod that will require engine management and headers too? I have an extra set of cams now from my old EJ22e that I've thought about hanging onto. I'm down for the $165 and the work to install them but I couldn't swing the rest :-/.

If you've already answered this a lot, just hit me with the search stick :), it's been a long day and I'm tired.
Lee

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Post by Matt Monson »

No,
No search stick for you. This car is actually a '94 Impreza, but I like to update here because we are using Legacy parts in it.

It absolutely would NOT require EM to run it in an anotherwise stock '90-94 Legacy. You won't see the same gains of 30+hp without a header or an ECU, but you would definitely see something like 15hp or so. There are a bunch of Ej22 powered cars in Colorado that have these cams in them. But they aren't folk in the preformance community. They are just a very standard upgrade that CCR offers when they rebuild a customer's engine...
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1973 Porsche 914 2.0 l -Suby swap pending
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1999 2.5RS w/ 50+ extra whp
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Post by skid542 »

Hmm... sounds like I might have a next step after my front brakes. Thanks, I'll definately be looking into this more. The only thing required to do the cams is to remove the heads and a few things? I remember at one point shims got mentioned in reference to cam changes, is this something that I need and/or will be provided with?

Thanks and glad you've kept us up to date.
Lee

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96' N/A OBW 5sp, 212k, Couple mods... RIP
99' N/A OBW, 4eat, mostly stock.
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Post by Project_Legacy »

man. that sounds pretty sick. would a turbo engine gain much of anything from having a cam upgrade like that?
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This makes gears in my head start turning too...
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subyluvr2212 wrote:This makes gears in my head start turning too...

LoL. sure does...
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Post by dzx »

I'm not sure what lifters your heads have, but i would hazard a guess that they are like the legacy turbo ones. The shims are just washers that go in under the HLA's.
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Post by ozymandius »

erm, it's actually http://www.deltacam.com/. This actually sounds like a nice deal, but I think I should do all the regular maintenance on my car before I start thinking about performance upgrades. :twisted:
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Post by skid542 »

Thanks Dan, do you know if delta supplies the shims when you get cams done?
Lee

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Post by dzx »

They do supply the shims, however when i got mine there weren't enough so i went to the local hardware store and matched them. You get a free t-shirt too..lol
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Post by bmxpunk »

That is good to know. My 22t headgasket blew so I am disassembling the heads today actually. As a matter of fact I put my cams in a box destined for delta just before i logged on.

Any guess with gains on a turbo motor with engine management.


Also who has pics of their head ports? I wanna see especially if they have been ported and polished. :twisted:
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Post by dzx »

I dunno about gains, my car put down 123 whp on a dyno dynamics when the turbo was overboosting and somewhere around 155 whp on a dyno jet with the cams, stock turbo, intercooler and safc II. I posted the graphs a long time ago so you should be able to find them if you search.
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Post by Matt Monson »

Hey! We got all the shims, but no t-shirt!!!
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1999 2.5RS w/ 50+ extra whp
Suby Hai!
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Suckers :P
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Post by tzedek »

so where do you order them? From deltacam.com?
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Post by bmxpunk »

Shims!?!?!!? should I have recieved those with mine? I definately got a shirt :D and stickers and a calander, but no shims.
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Post by 206er »

cant believe I didnt get some of these done when I was building my motor :( all that compression would love some cams.
how hard is it to pull the cams with the motor in the car? looks kinda tight.
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