4EAT< 5-spd dogbox?

BAC5.2 · Post by **BAC5.2** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 10:58 pm

Hollinger, wow. I am constantly shocked at just how much they feel they can justify charging for a product that's really no better than anything else on the market.

PAR did the same thing back in the day.

Last I checked, Hollinger was trying to charge $7000 for a gearset. Is that still true?

Innovative Tuning · Post by **Innovative Tuning** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:26 pm

You have PMs

BAC5.2 · Post by **BAC5.2** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 1:04 am

Replied yo. I hope they work out for you! After what you told me, I see exactly why you did what you did. It looks as though they have changed their image and I'm sure you are right about them not liking other vendors

Subtle · Post by **Subtle** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 7:10 am

This thread started with 4eat< 5mt and has had little comment on the 4eat.

Mine's built and the shifts are firm and quick at WOT. It still does the same number when set in "first" --shifts at 6200 right on up to fourth lock up.

The torque converter has a different stall speed than stock and really comes off the line. Haven't timed it yet, or done any track time.

Another positive is that when going along at about 40mph in fourth and you want to go somewhere you just mash the peddle and it drops a couple of gears and accelerates making the appropriate shifts---all without taking a hand off the steering wheel.

The only negative is that the shifts at light throttle go "thunk".

With the "built" I got a shift controller that by passes the tranny computer, but have yet to install it. It has push buttons for each gear and a toggle for in or out of lock up. Prolly good for racing, but not for valet parkers.

free5ty1e · Post by **free5ty1e** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 2:41 pm

I'm sure that valet parking crews everywhere would thoroughly enjoy such a shift controller.

My friend valet parked for a while and man, the stories you hear from the inside about what they do to the cars they have access to....

RS1TC · Post by **RS1TC** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 3:33 pm

That brings up a point I haven't mentioned yet. In drag racing, automatics are faster most of the time. However I like to turn also. I'm gonna ask a few things here so be ready: Are their options to build up the 4EAT? (shamless plugs are welcome) Could I adapt sometype of aforementioned transmission controller but instead of push buttons it would use steering wheel mounted paddle shifters? I ask this mainy because I need the 4EAT to last at least 6000 more miles from its current 140k miles to ride me around the country and back. I guess that aspect will be determined once I have the car and can check all the systems etc.

Oh yea, this is by far one of the best forums I have ever been on. Most of the hate is playful and no harm intended kind of stuff and the tech articles and info is freaking amazing. Thanks

evolutionmovement · Post by **evolutionmovement** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 12:51 am

I imagine the shift switches could just be swapped out for paddles with extended wires, but you'd have to fab them yourself. Would be pretty f'n cool, and who else would have it? Might work best with an aftermarket wheel.

BAC5.2 · Post by **BAC5.2** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 1:52 am

If I could get an automatic to behave like a manual, I'd do that.

Watch this video and drool at just how fast a manual transmission can be shifted. A LOT of people never know a manual transmission can behave like this. Best of all, it is designed to do this. This kind of abuse is what the tranny is built for!

http://www.ppgearbox.com.au/images/content/SCDOG.wmv

Subtle · Post by **Subtle** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 2:02 am

One site that describes the A/T shift controller is
www.importperformancetrans.com

For an up or down shifter see
www.powertraincontrolsolutions.com

Subtle · Post by **Subtle** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 2:22 am

I've always scorned automatics, but too long with a too-heavy clutch persuaded me to try the alternative.

The ej22 wgn I first bought was hopeless. Underpowered forced the 4eat to make inconvenient shifts when just a little feathering of the throttle
after flooring was required.( Then I wanted to have the up-down feature of the new trannies.)

This was also the case with the twgn in stock tune. However, with greater performance the tranny is tolerable--definately not a pain in the ass.

With 150k miles the 4eat was taking quite an increase in torque with no problems. Unwilling to have it fail out in the boonies or on the track I had the rebuild to higher performance.

I dont worry now.

free5ty1e · Post by **free5ty1e** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 3:31 pm

Phil - Damn, I want one of those dogboxes! That was some nice abusin'.

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