hey DLC, about your manual swap

[12340987]

how much did it cost you? hopefully you can guide me through it later if I decide to do it.

[Legacy777]

Have you seen the writeup on his site?

http://legacycentral.org/library/transm ... onvert.htm

[12340987]

yeah, but i didn't see prices. I want this to be economical, as the auto seems to be wearing out. I don't have a turbo either, mine's a 96 legacy sedan NA. Plus i didn't realize that was the same person that did this site.

[Legacy777]

cheapest way to do the swap is find a wrecked car with a good drivetrain and swap everything over.

[JasonGrahn]

hehehehe.. he said economical...

Riiiight.

[Legacy777]

if you look at the time involved, there is absolutely nothing economical about it

[aludeman]

It wasn't too painful. In the end I think I only spent about $1000 for the conversion, and that includes selling the auto tranny. I did the labor. It's hard to say how much time I spent on it, since I was also rebuilding the motor at the same time.

Some rough numbers on cost for me are:
transmission from 91 turbo: $1000
(that came with all bolts, hydraulic clutch, and pedals.)

lightened flywheel/act clutch: $993
transmission mount: $100 (though you could probably find a used one)

plus labor. I think a rough estimation would be 8-10 hours.
oh don't forget the wiring for reverse and park switch.

I have this information on my website too. Not a write up though like Dave's site.

good luck
lex
http://lexinator.com/cars/legacy

[TurboGuy]

WOW! I joined your website today after reading the entire a/t to m/t swap yesterday morning. While I was reading the account, I was convinced it would be insane for me to take that route. My a/t is toast. Stinky black fluid slips in 3, no 4.
Later yesterday I saw a '90 m/t awd at the local u-pull-it and that fired me up. I began sharing the story I read with my guys at the shop and they pumped me up!! You Can Do IT!! SO......my question....does the donor m/t have to come off a turbo? I don't have a turbo m/t vin # to compare the tranny ID.
I would enjoy any input from other members and will also make a huge collection of cars and parts available cheap!!

[mTk]

The turbo trans was quite a bit stronger than the non turbo, there's not really any other difference. You just have to make sure your rear diff matches the trans.

MK

[ciper]

How is the tranny turbo stronger? From what I know they are all exactly the same except ratios and clutch type.

[LegacyT]

I heard all gears are shot-peened on turbo trannys.

Mark,

[Legacy777]

the main difference is gears are shot peened....surface durability.....and it utilizes a hydrualic pull type clutch

[TurboGuy]

I went back to the u-pull-it today and was quoted $150.00 for the tranny and every part I need to make the conversion. They must count up frequent flyer miles somewhere. How could I not go for it!!!! Both rear ends are 4.111. Should work... right???....do I really need to switch drivelines or was that for balancing?
I will be in N.Idaho building a bridge to the little cabin until 9/22. No E-mail there fellas....but please let me know if I can help you find a part or two!! I will respond to every inquiry when I get back!!
Yikes...then I have to start this m/t conversion!! Actually I can't wait to get this unit up to a full ROAR!! Right now no 3 or 4 gears!
87,88,89 turbo wagon GL's, also 86 turbo wagon a/t push botton fourWD,
xt6 awd a/t, xt turbo fwd, 2 '80 1600 wagons, 90 turbo loyale 4eat, 93 loyale 5mt, 91 turbo legacy sport sedan awd a/t,sun roof fully loaded and for sale 137K.
All subies for sale all the time. I'll get more!!
My U-pullit connection is AWESOME!! I know of a non-turbo 2.2 in a wrecked car I could probably get for a couple hundred bucks!! Why?? It was hit in the front and damaged the outer pulleys and timing covers. Never started and tested, will be sold as a CORE!! Great news for someone needing a 95k motor!! Let me know if I can help!

[TurboGuy]

If you really, really just gotta know about something I could do for you, I can receive cell calls in sand point, ID.
If you are a member of this site, I have no problem if you call me.
503 504-4032. Cell site is in and out, leave voice mail and I will do the "Can you hear me now" routine!!