Old car owners are the best
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Old car owners are the best
Does it seem to anyone else that the most serious car enthusiasts are into older cars?
Take us, for example. The active members of this board are way more enthusiastic, knowledgeable, and friendly than the vast majority of NASIOC, not just about our own cars, but cars in general. Even the big-power-tuner guys over there would still probably have to have a shop fix something like their broken window regulator, or would utter nothing more than "Duh" when asked about which two engine sizes were available in the 70's Opel GT.
This doesn't just apply to Internet forums either. Some of the coolest guys I meet in the automotive scene are guys who have older cars. They're the ones who know every nut and bolt of the car, they're the ones who not only love to share their own car knowledge, but also gather it, they're the ones who are REAL enthusiasts. The 'new car guys' just seem to want to show off what they have.
Why is this? Good question, but I think it's because ultimately, they have new cars, and because they neither need to, nor care to, learn more about all of the automotive world. In short, they just want the car to go, and go fast, and they don't care what it takes to do that.
We, though, have to keep our cars running for one thing, whether that entails doing a timing belt or changing an axle. THEN, those of us with leadfoots, we have to do the same tuning and modding to get power out of older, less-technologically-advanced engines and chassis. Our collective knowledge as a group covers just about everything about BC/BJ/BF Legacies, not just certain aspects of them.
And, I don't think we do this just because we're broke and can't afford to have a shop fix our car, or because we can't justify spending all that money on an old car... I think it's because we're geniunely interested in learning about our cars and how they work.
Okay, enough self-ass-kissing . Who else agrees with me?
Take us, for example. The active members of this board are way more enthusiastic, knowledgeable, and friendly than the vast majority of NASIOC, not just about our own cars, but cars in general. Even the big-power-tuner guys over there would still probably have to have a shop fix something like their broken window regulator, or would utter nothing more than "Duh" when asked about which two engine sizes were available in the 70's Opel GT.
This doesn't just apply to Internet forums either. Some of the coolest guys I meet in the automotive scene are guys who have older cars. They're the ones who know every nut and bolt of the car, they're the ones who not only love to share their own car knowledge, but also gather it, they're the ones who are REAL enthusiasts. The 'new car guys' just seem to want to show off what they have.
Why is this? Good question, but I think it's because ultimately, they have new cars, and because they neither need to, nor care to, learn more about all of the automotive world. In short, they just want the car to go, and go fast, and they don't care what it takes to do that.
We, though, have to keep our cars running for one thing, whether that entails doing a timing belt or changing an axle. THEN, those of us with leadfoots, we have to do the same tuning and modding to get power out of older, less-technologically-advanced engines and chassis. Our collective knowledge as a group covers just about everything about BC/BJ/BF Legacies, not just certain aspects of them.
And, I don't think we do this just because we're broke and can't afford to have a shop fix our car, or because we can't justify spending all that money on an old car... I think it's because we're geniunely interested in learning about our cars and how they work.
Okay, enough self-ass-kissing . Who else agrees with me?
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Heh, any time my car goes into the shop, I always watch the mechanic do what he's going to do. I find it fascinating.
I always tell people that if they would spend any bit of time learning about the vehicle they drive, they could save themselves tremendous amounts of money. But no, they'd rather go to the stealership and get screwed.
I always tell people that if they would spend any bit of time learning about the vehicle they drive, they could save themselves tremendous amounts of money. But no, they'd rather go to the stealership and get screwed.
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Agreed 100%.
Not to say that there aren't extremely knowledgeble New car owners..but even a large percentage of them graduated from older cars like the 90s Legacys. If you ask a lot of diehard Subaru owners that have WRXs, most of them previously owned a Legacy, Loyale, or GL
Not to say that there aren't extremely knowledgeble New car owners..but even a large percentage of them graduated from older cars like the 90s Legacys. If you ask a lot of diehard Subaru owners that have WRXs, most of them previously owned a Legacy, Loyale, or GL
[url=http://www.sl-i.net/FORUM/viewtopic.php?t=486]1995 Legacy Outback 5MT[/url]
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" Old car owners are the best"
There are two meanings in the observation.
Just to be on the safe side, I'll agree with both.
There are two meanings in the observation.
Just to be on the safe side, I'll agree with both.
Subtle (normally aspirated engines suck):
05 Legacy GT Wagon with Cobb chip.
62 Alfa Romeo Spider- had a 1.6 L with 80 hp, now 2 L with 160 torque. Curb weight 2050 lbs.
93 Leg Twgn fmic, vf34, etc. ((sold))
05 Legacy GT Wagon with Cobb chip.
62 Alfa Romeo Spider- had a 1.6 L with 80 hp, now 2 L with 160 torque. Curb weight 2050 lbs.
93 Leg Twgn fmic, vf34, etc. ((sold))
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I think we need a system of mathematical grouping parenthases to clarify this title for the ultimate in nerdification. I vote for:
(old car) owners are the best
and don't quite agree with:
old (car owners) are the best
as they usually don't drive their cars, however sweet, like they should.
...You're welcome.
(old car) owners are the best
and don't quite agree with:
old (car owners) are the best
as they usually don't drive their cars, however sweet, like they should.
...You're welcome.
-Chris
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91SS 5MT awaiting engine rebuild and VF36...
92SS 4EAT - RIP
94SS 5MT4.11+rLSD 289k km: RobTune550,TD05-16g @ 18psi,FMIC,3"TBE,Forester lift
91SS 4EAT stock
91SS 5MT awaiting engine rebuild and VF36...
92SS 4EAT - RIP
94SS 5MT4.11+rLSD 289k km: RobTune550,TD05-16g @ 18psi,FMIC,3"TBE,Forester lift
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I'm probably the oldest old guy on this bbs, and I have nothing but respect and gratitude to all of the contributors for the helpful (and very entertaining) things I have learned here. My old wagon is the best ride I have ever owned and I hope to keep it running for another 150K miles. Thanks to you all for your friendly advice and prompt responses when I had questions. You guys are great!
Don
'90 L wagon, fwd, 5MT, 156K, purchased new 11/89, and running like a top. What a great car this continues to be.
'90 L wagon, fwd, 5MT, 156K, purchased new 11/89, and running like a top. What a great car this continues to be.
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Ever since I got this old Legacy my pride in it builds by the day. Thank you, thank you so much.
251,xxx miles and it still drives like a sports car. I love learning technical things, I just don't know what the hell I'd do with a new car! I love improving things, again, a new car would discourage me from doing so...
God I want to smack my friend Omar who's always getting hyped over the newest thing Subaru's doing with their cars. It's just not realistic. I also want to smack him because his dad bought him a new 2004 Impreza WRX last year. In fact, my Legacy is Omar's old car, and not too long before that, his dad's pride and joy. Truth is Omar and his family are the greatest people I've ever met (they take care of their stuff, and I got the car for $50) and Omar truly respects his car for what it is and for it being a gift to him, but I'd just rather things not be that way for me.
I'm going to take care of this car and make his father proud. And then, god dammit, I'm going to make you all proud when I take this car to 300,000 miles with no major failures. So help me god I fucking will.
251,xxx miles and it still drives like a sports car. I love learning technical things, I just don't know what the hell I'd do with a new car! I love improving things, again, a new car would discourage me from doing so...
God I want to smack my friend Omar who's always getting hyped over the newest thing Subaru's doing with their cars. It's just not realistic. I also want to smack him because his dad bought him a new 2004 Impreza WRX last year. In fact, my Legacy is Omar's old car, and not too long before that, his dad's pride and joy. Truth is Omar and his family are the greatest people I've ever met (they take care of their stuff, and I got the car for $50) and Omar truly respects his car for what it is and for it being a gift to him, but I'd just rather things not be that way for me.
I'm going to take care of this car and make his father proud. And then, god dammit, I'm going to make you all proud when I take this car to 300,000 miles with no major failures. So help me god I fucking will.
-Nick
1992 BC Legacy L Sedan AWD 5MT 272,000 - Wish you the best
1998 BK Legacy L Wagon 5MT 234,000 miles - RIP
2002 SF Forester S Wagon 5MT 215,000 miles - Current winter sleigh
1986 FC Mazda RX-7 GXL Coupe 5MT 155,000 miles - Summer cruiser
1992 BC Legacy L Sedan AWD 5MT 272,000 - Wish you the best
1998 BK Legacy L Wagon 5MT 234,000 miles - RIP
2002 SF Forester S Wagon 5MT 215,000 miles - Current winter sleigh
1986 FC Mazda RX-7 GXL Coupe 5MT 155,000 miles - Summer cruiser