Low Riders

[Subtle]

Cool sound track and fast stuff-- www.glumbert.com/media/flylow

[AWD_addict]

Are those Mirages?

[Subtle]

Mirages typically have the delta wing-form.

Looked at a couple of sources and it might be Israeli.

[evolutionmovement]

I thought they were F-105s, but looking again, I'm not so sure. Did they have in-flight refueling variants? They go by too damn fast. I think the Iranians recently cloned the F-105 and gave it their own name. It may be some kind of Mig. I'm not as familiar with newer fighter aircraft. The jet killed aviation for me. Impressive damn flying, though!

[scottzg]

I thought they were F-105s, but looking again, I'm not so sure. Did they have in-flight refueling variants? They go by too damn fast. I think the Iranians recently cloned the F-105 and gave it their own name. It may be some kind of Mig. I'm not as familiar with newer fighter aircraft. The jet killed aviation for me. Impressive damn flying, though!

if you were born slightly after the invention of the wheel, you would bemoan the good old days of having to drag shit.

[evolutionmovement]

Jets have no class. It's like a machine gun compared to a samurai sword. Which is the more elegant? Which is more the domain of the true warrior? Pressing a button in an obnoxiously loud (any single engine jet is far louder than a B-17) and polluting, fuel sucking silver banana from miles away with no need for even a visual sighting is for gamers. War should never be a game and there is no bravery in being out of range.

Some inventions are quite practical. I love my ipod and now I look at the racks of redundant and less useful CDs wondering what I should do with this now obsolete crap. LCD and plasma TVs are another great one since I always hated bulky CRTs. And I'd never write a damn thing if I had to use a pen and paper or even a typewriter. I want automatic doors. I think it's disgusting that in this century I still have to manually open and close doors in most places. Eating, too, is another thing I could do without. Where are the damn pills?!

[Richard]

War, in it's most basic element, is in fact just a high-stakes game. Sorry if this offends anyone, but that's pretty much the truth of it all. And gaining the advantage by any means necessary is the key to winning. I give much more credit to the chicken-shit who makes it home after a sortie than the brave SOB that went down in flames.

All's fair in love and war. Especially war.

[Adam West]

Very cool. Thanks for posting.

[Subtle]

Gen. Douglas MacArthur said that "Wars are caused by undefended property"

In 2001 The World Trade Center and the Pentagon were undefended.

A Roman general stated that "If you want peace prepare for war."

Recently, an Iranian Intelligence officer bragged that "We have a strategy drawn up for the destruction of Anglo-Saxon civilization"

Typically the US used to spend about 6% of GDP on defense. During the Clinton administration it was reduced to around 2%--remember the "peace dividend"-- and undefended property.

Now its spending about 4% and going to only 6% will be an important step against the jihadists that so viciously hate our freedoms.

Personally, I prefer freedom to what the jihadists have in mind for us--all of us.

[evolutionmovement]

The only way to win a war is to eliminate the other side. Nobody today in the Western world has the balls to do this. Cruel? Yes, it's war.

Why send our troops home with PTSD because they were fighting on an undefined line with an enemy that is impossible to tell from the civilians when we could just declare them all the enemy and eliminate them all. They only contribute to human de-evolution anyway. War is the way humans evolve, so let's move the fuck on - I want pills instead of food, flying cars, and a world where religion is relegated to the history books for kids to laugh about in elementary school. I have a friend who's a Vietnam vet. He never had PTSD - he shot everyone (and blew them up, and threw them out of helicopters...) and didn't worry about it. He only didn't like shooting the little kids (but, hey, the airforce napalmed the orphan village and the kids were on fire - whatareyougonnado?).

When was the last time anyone had trouble with Carthage? Oh yeah, the Romans completely wiped them out after the third Punic War. Alexander the Great may have had use for the people he conquered, but that was long before Mohammed came along.

[Richard]

evolutionmovement said:

When was the last time anyone had trouble with Carthage? Oh yeah, the Romans completely wiped them out after the third Punic War. Alexander the Great may have had use for the people he conquered, but that was long before Mohammed came along.

This was also long before the defunct organizations known as the United Nations and CNN. Imagine if these wieners were around back then. Sketches and drawings of slaughtered civilians shown around the world for people to see. Carthaginian towns burned to the ground on parchments shoved in the faces of everyday people. Instead of being the moment of triumph for the Romans, it would have brought them international scorn. Then meaningless sanctions would follow, after the fact.

And look at the attention that dressing a couple jihadists in panties and playing on their worst fears gets us. For freak's sakes, the Geneva Convention defines people who fight alongside civilians dressed as civilians as the worst of all war criminals and the punishment for them shall be death.

I've read Sun Tsu. I know how to fight a war. I know how to win one too. What Sun never imagined (well, he kinda did) was having war televised to the masses for them to decide how the battles are to be fought. I have no doubt that China would use every means available to them to fight a war. They would use every dirty trick in the book. Hell, they'd probably write a NEW book on dirty tricks. Meanwhile, we can't even play good-cop bad-cop to get information from captured operatives.

This whole war thing has become something that it shouldn't have. It used to be about killing the other guy's people and breaking their stuff. Now it's real-time broadcasting and opinion polls, followed by hours of commentary and speculation.

Then again, there are people who don't believe that we're at war. For some reason they are able to shut out all that is going on in the world and just worry about their own lives. Not only do I believe that these people are selfish, but they are the most ignorant creatures on this planet. Jihad has been declared, we got the tapes. War has been brought to us, we have the rubble to remind us. The enemy is bold and defiant, they claim our fallen as we claim theirs. I have nothing more to say about them, I've already wasted enough time on this.

But anyhow, I'll be the first person to suggest the end to it all. Turn that whole steaming cesspool of a region into a glass parking lot and stick tubes into the ground. The rest of the world would live in peace. Have fun getting a unanimous decision on that one though.