OMG what a noob!

Subaru-related topics that don't belong anywhere else...

Moderators: Helpinators, Moderators

Post Reply
Trace
First Gear
Posts: 106
Joined: Thu Sep 27, 2007 10:41 pm
Location: Vancouver, BC

OMG what a noob!

Post by Trace »

hey sup all. I just got my 94 legacy turbo sedan auto two days ago and am already felt like a proud owner. for $6000 CAD thank god I didn't get a corolla or a civic.

However, I don't know anything about this car. After I bought the car I pulled up at an gas station and when was about to refuel the car I stood and stared at the pump, there's 87, 89, 91, and 94...

Which one should I get??? does it matter??

Thanks for the help I'd be very appreciated!
TheSubaruJunkie
Fourth Gear
Posts: 1140
Joined: Tue Mar 16, 2004 7:26 am
Location: Sacramento California
Contact:

Post by TheSubaruJunkie »

It does matter. Do some research on octane ratings and what it means.

And you want 91.

-Brian
1983 Subaru GL-10 Brat
1986 Toyota 4Runner
Trace
First Gear
Posts: 106
Joined: Thu Sep 27, 2007 10:41 pm
Location: Vancouver, BC

Post by Trace »

there's going to be a lot more reading than just octane ratings... thinking of getting my hands dirty tunning this car, but i guess i'll start from the fundamentals. anyways, thanks!
TheSubaruJunkie
Fourth Gear
Posts: 1140
Joined: Tue Mar 16, 2004 7:26 am
Location: Sacramento California
Contact:

Post by TheSubaruJunkie »

Pretty much boils down to: The higher the octane rating, the more pressure is needed to ignite the fuel mixture. The lower the octane rating, the easier the fuel is to ignite.

With our cars being turbocharged, they run at a higher compression than most cars, and if you run a low octane fuel the high compression mixed with the hotter intake air will more likely pre-ignite the fuel... before the spark plug has a chance to do its job. This results in pinging and poor performance, and in the long run could result in engine damage. The higher octane fuel will hold up to the increased heat and pressure and will not pre-ignite as easy.

If I could, i would run 94 octane in my car just cause im picky about that kinda thing. But the highest I can get here is 91, which is all i ever run.

-Brian
1983 Subaru GL-10 Brat
1986 Toyota 4Runner
ericem
Fifth Gear
Posts: 3242
Joined: Mon Oct 16, 2006 9:44 pm
Location: Toronto,ON Canada

Post by ericem »

I thought turbo charged motors had less compression.
1993 Subaru Legacy L AWD Wagon R.I.P
1994 Subaru Legacy SS R.I.P :(
2004 Nissan Titan LE 4X4
2007 Subaru Legacy GT :)
TheSubaruJunkie
Fourth Gear
Posts: 1140
Joined: Tue Mar 16, 2004 7:26 am
Location: Sacramento California
Contact:

Post by TheSubaruJunkie »

Yes, they do. But then you add 5-7-11psi from the turbo and you have much higher compression.

By default, the engine blocks do have a lower compression ratio. But its the turbo that makes up for it.
1983 Subaru GL-10 Brat
1986 Toyota 4Runner
ericem
Fifth Gear
Posts: 3242
Joined: Mon Oct 16, 2006 9:44 pm
Location: Toronto,ON Canada

Post by ericem »

Oh, thats why its not a good idea to turbo a non turbo without changing the heads and pistons I guess lol.
1993 Subaru Legacy L AWD Wagon R.I.P
1994 Subaru Legacy SS R.I.P :(
2004 Nissan Titan LE 4X4
2007 Subaru Legacy GT :)
TheSubaruJunkie
Fourth Gear
Posts: 1140
Joined: Tue Mar 16, 2004 7:26 am
Location: Sacramento California
Contact:

Post by TheSubaruJunkie »

Yes, thats precisely why. The lower compression in our EJ's is created by the pistons i believe. Im pretty sure the heads are identical to all other EJ22's.
1983 Subaru GL-10 Brat
1986 Toyota 4Runner
Trace
First Gear
Posts: 106
Joined: Thu Sep 27, 2007 10:41 pm
Location: Vancouver, BC

Post by Trace »

Very valuable information guys thanks!

Learning something more practical here than I get from school everyday ><
Imprezive
Fourth Gear
Posts: 1428
Joined: Wed Jun 22, 2005 4:07 am
Location: Northern CA

Post by Imprezive »

never get anything below 91 octane. With a stock legacy turbo, you dont need 94 octane, and it wont hurt anyting but it might help a little bit. so its up to you.
1992 T-Leg = 195whp 197wtq SOLD :(
1988 4Runner RIP
2006 Suzuki DRZ400sm
2007 Miata
1994 Miata
2003 WRX Wagon
2016 Mazda 3
555BCTurbo
Knowledgeable
Knowledgeable
Posts: 3335
Joined: Wed Feb 16, 2005 9:40 pm
Location: Oregon

Post by 555BCTurbo »

TheSubaruJunkie wrote:Pretty much boils down to: The higher the octane rating, the more pressure is needed to ignite the fuel mixture.

Not really...


Octane rating measures the resistance of fuel to autoignite (preignite in our case). A higher octane fuel actually burns slower and has slightly less energy than a lower octane fuel, but because of the higher dynamic compression ratios in a turbocharged engine, the higher octane fuel allows for a more even burn and subsequently more power generation because of the compression.
Nick

1987 Audi 4000CS quattro...soon to be 20VT
1994 Dodge Ram 2500 4x4 CTD, #11 plate, 30 psi, Scotty II intake, 4" exhaust
Post Reply