Aussie WRX ECU Shootout

[William D. Robinson]

I keep stumbling upon a link where some magazine in Oz did a shootout of ECUs for the WRX, but the actual page is never available. If any of our marsupial friends know what I am talking about and can steer me toward that, I would be very grateful. I am particularly interested in comparing the Link ECU to the Dastek Unichip.

On the subject of Dastek Unichip, they have "dealers" all over the US, but Cobb Tuning in Texas is the only place that I know of that is gearing up for the new WRX with an AWD dyno. As near as I can tell, there is no practial alternative to a 4wd dyno for tuning 5-speed Subaru with a Unichip.


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----- Original Message -----
From: William D. Robinson <mailto:vultureboy@mindspring.com>
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Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Aussie WRX ECU Shootout

I keep stumbling upon a link where some magazine in Oz did a shootout of ECUs for the WRX, but the actual page is never available. If any of our marsupial friends know what I am talking about and can steer me toward that, I would be very grateful. I am particularly interested in comparing the Link ECU to the Dastek Unichip.

On the subject of Dastek Unichip, they have "dealers" all over the US, but Cobb Tuning in Texas is the only place that I know of that is gearing up for the new WRX with an AWD dyno. As near as I can tell, there is no practial alternative to a 4wd dyno for tuning 5-speed Subaru with a Unichip.


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[daniel.wilson@db.co.nz]

That is not even a valid comparison. The link computers are fully
programmable so you can tune it to your exact requirements when ever
you wish.

Dan

--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "William D. Robinson" <vultureboy@m...>
wrote:
> I keep stumbling upon a link where some magazine in Oz did a
shootout of ECUs for the WRX, but the actual page is never
available. If any of our marsupial friends know what I am talking
about and can steer me toward that, I would be very grateful. I am
particularly interested in comparing the Link ECU to the Dastek
Unichip.
>
> On the subject of Dastek Unichip, they have "dealers" all over the
US, but Cobb Tuning in Texas is the only place that I know of that is
gearing up for the new WRX with an AWD dyno. As near as I can tell,
there is no practial alternative to a 4wd dyno for tuning 5-speed
Subaru with a Unichip.


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[daniel.wilson@db.co.nz]

Looking at the graphs they obviously didn't know how to tune the
microtec or link.

I think there is a lot of bias in that review.


--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "dfullerton" <dfullerton@d...> wrote:
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: William D. Robinson
> To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2001 85 PM
> Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Aussie WRX ECU Shootout
>
>
> I keep stumbling upon a link where some magazine in Oz did a
shootout of ECUs for the WRX, but the actual page is never
available. If any of our marsupial friends know what I am talking
about and can steer me toward that, I would be very grateful. I am
particularly interested in comparing the Link ECU to the Dastek
Unichip.
>
> On the subject of Dastek Unichip, they have "dealers" all over
the US, but Cobb Tuning in Texas is the only place that I know of
that is gearing up for the new WRX with an AWD dyno. As near as I
can tell, there is no practial alternative to a 4wd dyno for tuning 5-
speed Subaru with a Unichip.
>
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[daniel.wilson@db.co.nz]

Sorry what I forgot to say, was the possum link just plugs into your
existing wiring on an EJ20 engine so less install cost are the result.

I know for a fact the link as it comes from Possum motor sport are
very detuned, and cause the cars to run very average. But when they
are tuned correctly the only ECU in my experience that can perform
better is the microtec.

Dan

--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., daniel.wilson@d... wrote:
> That is not even a valid comparison. The link computers are fully
> programmable so you can tune it to your exact requirements when
ever
> you wish.
>
> Dan
>
> --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "William D. Robinson"
<vultureboy@m...>
> wrote:
> > I keep stumbling upon a link where some magazine in Oz did a
> shootout of ECUs for the WRX, but the actual page is never
> available. If any of our marsupial friends know what I am talking
> about and can steer me toward that, I would be very grateful. I am
> particularly interested in comparing the Link ECU to the Dastek
> Unichip.
> >
> > On the subject of Dastek Unichip, they have "dealers" all over
the
> US, but Cobb Tuning in Texas is the only place that I know of that
is
> gearing up for the new WRX with an AWD dyno. As near as I can
tell,
> there is no practial alternative to a 4wd dyno for tuning 5-speed
> Subaru with a Unichip.


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[daniel.wilson@db.co.nz]

I would seriously question the company that conducted the testing.
Looking at the graphs it appears that they didn't know how to tune
the Microtec or Link properly.

This was one thing the didn't mention on the survey. I wonder if you
can get rid of your airflow meter on the Unichip?

The main advantage of the Link or Microtech is you can do away with
your airflow meter, and increase the size of your piping to your
throttle body, all good.

Dan

--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., daniel.wilson@d... wrote:
> Sorry what I forgot to say, was the possum link just plugs into
your
> existing wiring on an EJ20 engine so less install cost are the
result.
>
> I know for a fact the link as it comes from Possum motor sport are
> very detuned, and cause the cars to run very average. But when they
> are tuned correctly the only ECU in my experience that can perform
> better is the microtec.
>
> Dan
>
> --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., daniel.wilson@d... wrote:
> > That is not even a valid comparison. The link computers are fully
> > programmable so you can tune it to your exact requirements when
> ever
> > you wish.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "William D. Robinson"
> <vultureboy@m...>
> > wrote:
> > > I keep stumbling upon a link where some magazine in Oz did a
> > shootout of ECUs for the WRX, but the actual page is never
> > available. If any of our marsupial friends know what I am
talking
> > about and can steer me toward that, I would be very grateful. I
am
> > particularly interested in comparing the Link ECU to the Dastek
> > Unichip.
> > >
> > > On the subject of Dastek Unichip, they have "dealers" all over
> the
> > US, but Cobb Tuning in Texas is the only place that I know of
that
> is
> > gearing up for the new WRX with an AWD dyno. As near as I can
> tell,
> > there is no practial alternative to a 4wd dyno for tuning 5-speed
> > Subaru with a Unichip.


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[Brett Middleton]

have you seen the latest (and True) data on the "new" link ecu's on our web
site??

this will help

and no you can not remove the AFM with unichip....

Brett

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: daniel.wilson@db.co.nz [mailto:daniel.wilson@db.co.nz]
> Sent: Monday, 14 May 2001 07:44
> To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Aussie WRX ECU Shootout
>
>
> I would seriously question the company that conducted the testing.
> Looking at the graphs it appears that they didn't know how to tune
> the Microtec or Link properly.
>
> This was one thing the didn't mention on the survey. I wonder if you
> can get rid of your airflow meter on the Unichip?
>
> The main advantage of the Link or Microtech is you can do away with
> your airflow meter, and increase the size of your piping to your
> throttle body, all good.
>
> Dan
>
> --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., daniel.wilson@d... wrote:
> > Sorry what I forgot to say, was the possum link just plugs into
> your
> > existing wiring on an EJ20 engine so less install cost are the
> result.
> >
> > I know for a fact the link as it comes from Possum motor sport are
> > very detuned, and cause the cars to run very average. But when they
> > are tuned correctly the only ECU in my experience that can perform
> > better is the microtec.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., daniel.wilson@d... wrote:
> > > That is not even a valid comparison. The link computers are fully
> > > programmable so you can tune it to your exact requirements when
> > ever
> > > you wish.
> > >
> > > Dan
> > >
> > > --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "William D. Robinson"
> > <vultureboy@m...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > I keep stumbling upon a link where some magazine in Oz did a
> > > shootout of ECUs for the WRX, but the actual page is never
> > > available. If any of our marsupial friends know what I am
> talking
> > > about and can steer me toward that, I would be very grateful. I
> am
> > > particularly interested in comparing the Link ECU to the Dastek
> > > Unichip.
> > > >
> > > > On the subject of Dastek Unichip, they have "dealers" all over
> > the
> > > US, but Cobb Tuning in Texas is the only place that I know of
> that
> > is
> > > gearing up for the new WRX with an AWD dyno. As near as I can
> > tell,
> > > there is no practial alternative to a 4wd dyno for tuning 5-speed
> > > Subaru with a Unichip.
>
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[daniel.wilson@db.co.nz]

Didn't think so.

Cool will have a look, because that is what I am looking to buy.

Dan

--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "Brett Middleton" <brett@m...> wrote:
> have you seen the latest (and True) data on the "new" link ecu's on
our web
> site??
>
> this will help
>
> and no you can not remove the AFM with unichip....
>
> Brett
>
> MRT Performance
> We Rally, You Win (STi Version 5)
>
> http://www.MRTrally.com.au <http://www.mrtrally.com.au/> main pages
> http://www.MRTrally.com.au/shop <http://www.mrtrally.com.au/shop>
buy on
> line
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: daniel.wilson@d... [mailto:daniel.wilson@d...]
> > Sent: Monday, 14 May 2001 07:44
> > To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> > Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Aussie WRX ECU Shootout
> >
> >
> > I would seriously question the company that conducted the
testing.
> > Looking at the graphs it appears that they didn't know how to
tune
> > the Microtec or Link properly.
> >
> > This was one thing the didn't mention on the survey. I wonder if
you
> > can get rid of your airflow meter on the Unichip?
> >
> > The main advantage of the Link or Microtech is you can do away
with
> > your airflow meter, and increase the size of your piping to your
> > throttle body, all good.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., daniel.wilson@d... wrote:
> > > Sorry what I forgot to say, was the possum link just plugs into
> > your
> > > existing wiring on an EJ20 engine so less install cost are the
> > result.
> > >
> > > I know for a fact the link as it comes from Possum motor sport
are
> > > very detuned, and cause the cars to run very average. But when
they
> > > are tuned correctly the only ECU in my experience that can
perform
> > > better is the microtec.
> > >
> > > Dan
> > >
> > > --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., daniel.wilson@d... wrote:
> > > > That is not even a valid comparison. The link computers are
fully
> > > > programmable so you can tune it to your exact requirements
when
> > > ever
> > > > you wish.
> > > >
> > > > Dan
> > > >
> > > > --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "William D. Robinson"
> > > <vultureboy@m...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > I keep stumbling upon a link where some magazine in Oz did
a
> > > > shootout of ECUs for the WRX, but the actual page is never
> > > > available. If any of our marsupial friends know what I am
> > talking
> > > > about and can steer me toward that, I would be very
grateful. I
> > am
> > > > particularly interested in comparing the Link ECU to the
Dastek
> > > > Unichip.
> > > > >
> > > > > On the subject of Dastek Unichip, they have "dealers" all
over
> > > the
> > > > US, but Cobb Tuning in Texas is the only place that I know of
> > that
> > > is
> > > > gearing up for the new WRX with an AWD dyno. As near as I
can
> > > tell,
> > > > there is no practial alternative to a 4wd dyno for tuning 5-
speed
> > > > Subaru with a Unichip.
> >
> >
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[daniel.wilson@db.co.nz]

Those curves look much better. Interested in the drop at about
150Km/h, do you know the reason for this?

The other question what is wrong with the rail setup for #2 cylinder?
wouldn't 4 also be affected?

How much are your unbreakable gear kits, for when I blow my twin
turbo box up?

Dan

--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "Brett Middleton" <brett@m...> wrote:
> have you seen the latest (and True) data on the "new" link ecu's on
our web
> site??
>
> this will help
>
> and no you can not remove the AFM with unichip....
>
> Brett
>
> MRT Performance
> We Rally, You Win (STi Version 5)
>
> http://www.MRTrally.com.au <http://www.mrtrally.com.au/> main pages
> http://www.MRTrally.com.au/shop <http://www.mrtrally.com.au/shop>
buy on
> line
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: daniel.wilson@d... [mailto:daniel.wilson@d...]
> > Sent: Monday, 14 May 2001 07:44
> > To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> > Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Aussie WRX ECU Shootout
> >
> >
> > I would seriously question the company that conducted the
testing.
> > Looking at the graphs it appears that they didn't know how to
tune
> > the Microtec or Link properly.
> >
> > This was one thing the didn't mention on the survey. I wonder if
you
> > can get rid of your airflow meter on the Unichip?
> >
> > The main advantage of the Link or Microtech is you can do away
with
> > your airflow meter, and increase the size of your piping to your
> > throttle body, all good.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., daniel.wilson@d... wrote:
> > > Sorry what I forgot to say, was the possum link just plugs into
> > your
> > > existing wiring on an EJ20 engine so less install cost are the
> > result.
> > >
> > > I know for a fact the link as it comes from Possum motor sport
are
> > > very detuned, and cause the cars to run very average. But when
they
> > > are tuned correctly the only ECU in my experience that can
perform
> > > better is the microtec.
> > >
> > > Dan
> > >
> > > --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., daniel.wilson@d... wrote:
> > > > That is not even a valid comparison. The link computers are
fully
> > > > programmable so you can tune it to your exact requirements
when
> > > ever
> > > > you wish.
> > > >
> > > > Dan
> > > >
> > > > --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "William D. Robinson"
> > > <vultureboy@m...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > I keep stumbling upon a link where some magazine in Oz did
a
> > > > shootout of ECUs for the WRX, but the actual page is never
> > > > available. If any of our marsupial friends know what I am
> > talking
> > > > about and can steer me toward that, I would be very
grateful. I
> > am
> > > > particularly interested in comparing the Link ECU to the
Dastek
> > > > Unichip.
> > > > >
> > > > > On the subject of Dastek Unichip, they have "dealers" all
over
> > > the
> > > > US, but Cobb Tuning in Texas is the only place that I know of
> > that
> > > is
> > > > gearing up for the new WRX with an AWD dyno. As near as I
can
> > > tell,
> > > > there is no practial alternative to a 4wd dyno for tuning 5-
speed
> > > > Subaru with a Unichip.
> >
> >
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[Brett Middleton]

..>Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Aussie WRX ECU Shootout
..>
..>
..>Those curves look much better. Interested in the drop at about
..>150Km/h, do you know the reason for this?
BM you mean the slight dip?
if so then this was due to the (weird) and unique car, tune, any more ign.
and it would ping on PULP, no matter what we did, we could not be rid of
this small dip, although it can be seen it could not be felt in the car!

..>
..>The other question what is wrong with the rail set-up for #2
..>cylinder?
..>wouldn't 4 also be affected?
BM the rail problem is same for all EJ20's due to the length of the flow
around the two heads, we don't tell anyone exactly what the cause is, or the
fix, (until we do it), but it is a common mod on all group A rally cars etc
and its pretty simple but time consuming to do.

well worth the safety though!

..>
..>How much are your unbreakable gear kits, for when I blow my twin
..>turbo box up?
BM hahahah!
we do synchro and Dog sets, prices start around $5k..

..>
..>Dan
..>
..>--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "Brett Middleton" <brett@m...> wrote:
..>> have you seen the latest (and True) data on the "new"
..>link ecu's on
..>our web
..>> site??
..>>
..>> this will help
..>>
..>> and no you can not remove the AFM with unichip....
..>>
..>> Brett
..>>
..>> MRT Performance
..>> We Rally, You Win (STi Version 5)
..>>
..>> http://www.MRTrally.com.au <http://www.mrtrally.com.au/>
..>main pages
..>> http://www.MRTrally.com.au/shop
..><http://www.mrtrally.com.au/shop>
..>buy on
..>> line
..>>
..>>
..>>
..>> > -----Original Message-----
..>> > From: daniel.wilson@d... [mailto:daniel.wilson@d...]
..>> > Sent: Monday, 14 May 2001 07:44
..>> > To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
..>> > Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Aussie WRX ECU Shootout
..>> >
..>> >
..>> > I would seriously question the company that conducted the
..>testing.
..>> > Looking at the graphs it appears that they didn't know how to
..>tune
..>> > the Microtec or Link properly.
..>> >
..>> > This was one thing the didn't mention on the survey. I
..>wonder if
..>you
..>> > can get rid of your airflow meter on the Unichip?
..>> >
..>> > The main advantage of the Link or Microtech is you can do away
..>with
..>> > your airflow meter, and increase the size of your
..>piping to your
..>> > throttle body, all good.
..>> >
..>> > Dan
..>> >
..>> > --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., daniel.wilson@d... wrote:
..>> > > Sorry what I forgot to say, was the possum link just
..>plugs into
..>> > your
..>> > > existing wiring on an EJ20 engine so less install
..>cost are the
..>> > result.
..>> > >
..>> > > I know for a fact the link as it comes from Possum
..>motor sport
..>are
..>> > > very detuned, and cause the cars to run very average.
..>But when
..>they
..>> > > are tuned correctly the only ECU in my experience that can
..>perform
..>> > > better is the microtec.
..>> > >
..>> > > Dan
..>> > >
..>> > > --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., daniel.wilson@d... wrote:
..>> > > > That is not even a valid comparison. The link computers are
..>fully
..>> > > > programmable so you can tune it to your exact requirements
..>when
..>> > > ever
..>> > > > you wish.
..>> > > >
..>> > > > Dan
..>> > > >
..>> > > > --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "William D. Robinson"
..>> > > <vultureboy@m...>
..>> > > > wrote:
..>> > > > > I keep stumbling upon a link where some magazine
..>in Oz did
..>a
..>> > > > shootout of ECUs for the WRX, but the actual page is never
..>> > > > available. If any of our marsupial friends know what I am
..>> > talking
..>> > > > about and can steer me toward that, I would be very
..>grateful. I
..>> > am
..>> > > > particularly interested in comparing the Link ECU to the
..>Dastek
..>> > > > Unichip.
..>> > > > >
..>> > > > > On the subject of Dastek Unichip, they have "dealers" all
..>over
..>> > > the
..>> > > > US, but Cobb Tuning in Texas is the only place that
..>I know of
..>> > that
..>> > > is
..>> > > > gearing up for the new WRX with an AWD dyno. As near as I
..>can
..>> > > tell,
..>> > > > there is no practial alternative to a 4wd dyno for tuning 5-
..>speed
..>> > > > Subaru with a Unichip.
..>> >
..>> >
..>> > To unsubscribe from this group, please send an email to:
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..>> >
..>> >
..>> >
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..>> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
..>> >
..>> >
..>> >
..>> >
..>
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Hmm. secrets from down under... I want to know!
Mark
www.rrunracing.com


>..>The other question what is wrong with the rail set-up for #2
>..>cylinder?
>..>wouldn't 4 also be affected?
>BM the rail problem is same for all EJ20's due to the length of the flow
>around the two heads, we don't tell anyone exactly what the cause is, or the
>fix, (until we do it), but it is a common mod on all group A rally cars etc
>and its pretty simple but time consuming to do.
>
>well worth the safety though!


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[daniel.wilson@db.co.nz]

Don't worry Mark I know what the fix is now. And I have diagrams on
how to mod it. But I won't tell anyone here if you don't want.

Dan

--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., Mark Ward <mark@r...> wrote:
>
> Hmm. secrets from down under... I want to know!
> Mark
> www.rrunracing.com
>
>
> >..>The other question what is wrong with the rail set-up for #2
> >..>cylinder?
> >..>wouldn't 4 also be affected?
> >BM the rail problem is same for all EJ20's due to the length of
the flow
> >around the two heads, we don't tell anyone exactly what the cause
is, or the
> >fix, (until we do it), but it is a common mod on all group A rally
cars etc
> >and its pretty simple but time consuming to do.
> >
> >well worth the safety though!


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