Help Slow Tegacy Turbo

[rob440@hotmail.com]

I have a 93 uk spec 20L legacy turbo
ive only had it a month and was well impressed with the performance ,
But it now seems to have lost all boost presure ,
Everu now and then it seems to mend itself and go ok for a while
and some times it seems to surge , but moastly it just feels flat .
Ive checked all visible hoses for splits , cleaned out the waistgate
solenoid . i can move the waistgate and it springs back ok
Sometimes i can here the turbo spin up , sometimes i cant
any ideas please
thanks


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[jason grahn]

I'm not exactly the best person to answer this because i don't have a turbo,
but i believe that something similar to this has been covered in the past.
Have you checked the archives yet?

-Jason


>From: rob440@hotmail.com
>Reply-To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
>To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Help Slow Tegacy Turbo
>Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 21:13:46 -0000
>
>I have a 93 uk spec 20L legacy turbo
>ive only had it a month and was well impressed with the performance ,
>But it now seems to have lost all boost presure ,
>Everu now and then it seems to mend itself and go ok for a while
>and some times it seems to surge , but moastly it just feels flat .
>Ive checked all visible hoses for splits , cleaned out the waistgate
>solenoid . i can move the waistgate and it springs back ok
>Sometimes i can here the turbo spin up , sometimes i cant
>any ideas please
>thanks
>
>
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[rob440@hotmail.com]

Been looking through archives for days now and tried
the easy things hehe!


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[Dave C]

Your solenoid is most likely just not working. Get a manual
controller, it does a better job than the stocker even if it were
working.

--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., rob440@h... wrote:
> I have a 93 uk spec 20L legacy turbo
> ive only had it a month and was well impressed with the
performance ,
> But it now seems to have lost all boost presure ,
> Everu now and then it seems to mend itself and go ok for a while
> and some times it seems to surge , but moastly it just feels flat .
> Ive checked all visible hoses for splits , cleaned out the
waistgate
> solenoid . i can move the waistgate and it springs back ok
> Sometimes i can here the turbo spin up , sometimes i cant
> any ideas please
> thanks


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[Miki]

Welcome to the gang (Rob?) !

In my opinion, the VERY first thing you should do, is to install a
boost gauge, that is considered a must on these cars (I'm assuming
you don't have one since you're not mentioning any boost figures).

Then, if you notice that there really isn't enough boost all the
time, try with a MBC as Dave suggested, they aren't that expensive
and as he also said, they work a lot better than the stock one. If
the problem with low boost still remains after that, I'd guess your
BOV is leaking, get a new one, they aren't that expensive either, and
very easy to replace.

If there, however, is enough boost all the time, but the car still
refuses to accelerate, I'd bet it's the same thing I had a year ago,
i.e the damn AFM is broken. I broke mine when I put too much oil on a
drop-in performance filter... The AFM is quite expensive, so you
wanna be sure it's broken before you get a new one. Just yesterday I
heard of a guy who had cleaned his AFM with some kinda "brake-cleaner
spray", and got it working !!! I can't recommend it to anyone,
haven't tried it on my broken one yet either, but I sure will.

So, the thing you maybe should start with is the boost gauge, then
perhaps remove the AFM and check if it looks dirty.

Good luck !

* Miki *



--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., rob440@h... wrote:
> I have a 93 uk spec 20L legacy turbo
> ive only had it a month and was well impressed with the
> performance , But it now seems to have lost all boost presure ,
> Everu now and then it seems to mend itself and go ok for a while
> and some times it seems to surge , but moastly it just feels flat .
> Ive checked all visible hoses for splits , cleaned out the
> waistgate solenoid . i can move the waistgate and it springs back
> ok Sometimes i can here the turbo spin up , sometimes i cant
> any ideas please
> thanks


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[Subaru-Nissan Fan]

where are you all getting your boost gauge from? who has the cheepest one? I'm not looking at raising the boost at all but i would like to know if its all there....



-----Original Message-----
From: Miki [mailto:awdturbodude@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 22 AM
To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Help Slow Tegacy Turbo


Welcome to the gang (Rob?) !

In my opinion, the VERY first thing you should do, is to install a
boost gauge, that is considered a must on these cars (I'm assuming
you don't have one since you're not mentioning any boost figures).

Then, if you notice that there really isn't enough boost all the
time, try with a MBC as Dave suggested, they aren't that expensive
and as he also said, they work a lot better than the stock one. If
the problem with low boost still remains after that, I'd guess your
BOV is leaking, get a new one, they aren't that expensive either, and
very easy to replace.

If there, however, is enough boost all the time, but the car still
refuses to accelerate, I'd bet it's the same thing I had a year ago,
i.e the damn AFM is broken. I broke mine when I put too much oil on a
drop-in performance filter... The AFM is quite expensive, so you
wanna be sure it's broken before you get a new one. Just yesterday I
heard of a guy who had cleaned his AFM with some kinda "brake-cleaner
spray", and got it working !!! I can't recommend it to anyone,
haven't tried it on my broken one yet either, but I sure will.

So, the thing you maybe should start with is the boost gauge, then
perhaps remove the AFM and check if it looks dirty.

Good luck !

* Miki *



--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., rob440@h... wrote:
> I have a 93 uk spec 20L legacy turbo
> ive only had it a month and was well impressed with the
> performance , But it now seems to have lost all boost presure ,
> Everu now and then it seems to mend itself and go ok for a while
> and some times it seems to surge , but moastly it just feels flat .
> Ive checked all visible hoses for splits , cleaned out the
> waistgate solenoid . i can move the waistgate and it springs back
> ok Sometimes i can here the turbo spin up , sometimes i cant
> any ideas please
> thanks



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[dfullerton]

Hi rob i live in london and have a 94 legacy turbo with a new td04l on it
your welcome to come round and have a look[had same problem as you]
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From: <rob440@hotmail.com>
To: <BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 10:13 PM
Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Help Slow Tegacy Turbo


> I have a 93 uk spec 20L legacy turbo
> ive only had it a month and was well impressed with the performance ,
> But it now seems to have lost all boost presure ,
> Everu now and then it seems to mend itself and go ok for a while
> and some times it seems to surge , but moastly it just feels flat .
> Ive checked all visible hoses for splits , cleaned out the waistgate
> solenoid . i can move the waistgate and it springs back ok
> Sometimes i can here the turbo spin up , sometimes i cant
> any ideas please
> thanks
>
>
>
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[jason grahn]

Autometer, VDO, Greddy, HKS, Westach, Intellitronix, and APEXi all make
boost gauges; i'm sure there's more, but that's all i can think of right
now.

-Jason


>From: "Subaru-Nissan Fan" <nissans14@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
>To: <BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: RE: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Help Slow Tegacy Turbo
>Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 09:283 -0400
>
>where are you all getting your boost gauge from? who has the cheepest one?
>I'm not looking at raising the boost at all but i would like to know if its
>all there....
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Miki [mailto:awdturbodude@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 22 AM
> To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Help Slow Tegacy Turbo
>
>
> Welcome to the gang (Rob?) !
>
> In my opinion, the VERY first thing you should do, is to install a
> boost gauge, that is considered a must on these cars (I'm assuming
> you don't have one since you're not mentioning any boost figures).
>
> Then, if you notice that there really isn't enough boost all the
> time, try with a MBC as Dave suggested, they aren't that expensive
> and as he also said, they work a lot better than the stock one. If
> the problem with low boost still remains after that, I'd guess your
> BOV is leaking, get a new one, they aren't that expensive either, and
> very easy to replace.
>
> If there, however, is enough boost all the time, but the car still
> refuses to accelerate, I'd bet it's the same thing I had a year ago,
> i.e the damn AFM is broken. I broke mine when I put too much oil on a
> drop-in performance filter... The AFM is quite expensive, so you
> wanna be sure it's broken before you get a new one. Just yesterday I
> heard of a guy who had cleaned his AFM with some kinda "brake-cleaner
> spray", and got it working !!! I can't recommend it to anyone,
> haven't tried it on my broken one yet either, but I sure will.
>
> So, the thing you maybe should start with is the boost gauge, then
> perhaps remove the AFM and check if it looks dirty.
>
> Good luck !
>
> * Miki *
>
>
>
> --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., rob440@h... wrote:
> > I have a 93 uk spec 20L legacy turbo
> > ive only had it a month and was well impressed with the
> > performance , But it now seems to have lost all boost presure ,
> > Everu now and then it seems to mend itself and go ok for a while
> > and some times it seems to surge , but moastly it just feels flat .
> > Ive checked all visible hoses for splits , cleaned out the
> > waistgate solenoid . i can move the waistgate and it springs back
> > ok Sometimes i can here the turbo spin up , sometimes i cant
> > any ideas please
> > thanks
>
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[rob440@hotmail.com]

thanks guys 4 all your help
nice to find a group dedicated to legacy,s and not all impreza
sorry but im new to legacys .Whats a afm . and a pcv valve . i take
it bov means = blow off valve
/dump valve . i think i checked that coulden blow through it and it
dident seem to leak n, diafram seemed ok
going to get myself a boost gauge to start with and take it from
there
thanks for all your help
ROB
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Miki [mailto:awdturbodude@y...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 22 AM
> > To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> > Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Help Slow Tegacy Turbo
> >
> >
> > Welcome to the gang (Rob?) !
> >
> > In my opinion, the VERY first thing you should do, is to
install a
> > boost gauge, that is considered a must on these cars (I'm
assuming
> > you don't have one since you're not mentioning any boost
figures).
> >
> > Then, if you notice that there really isn't enough boost all the
> > time, try with a MBC as Dave suggested, they aren't that
expensive
> > and as he also said, they work a lot better than the stock one.
If
> > the problem with low boost still remains after that, I'd guess
your
> > BOV is leaking, get a new one, they aren't that expensive
either, and
> > very easy to replace.
> >
> > If there, however, is enough boost all the time, but the car
still
> > refuses to accelerate, I'd bet it's the same thing I had a year
ago,
> > i.e the damn AFM is broken. I broke mine when I put too much
oil on a
> > drop-in performance filter... The AFM is quite expensive, so you
> > wanna be sure it's broken before you get a new one. Just
yesterday I
> > heard of a guy who had cleaned his AFM with some kinda "brake-
cleaner
> > spray", and got it working !!! I can't recommend it to anyone,
> > haven't tried it on my broken one yet either, but I sure will.
> >
> > So, the thing you maybe should start with is the boost gauge,
then
> > perhaps remove the AFM and check if it looks dirty.
> >
> > Good luck !
> >
> > * Miki *
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., rob440@h... wrote:
> > > I have a 93 uk spec 20L legacy turbo
> > > ive only had it a month and was well impressed with the
> > > performance , But it now seems to have lost all boost
presure ,
> > > Everu now and then it seems to mend itself and go ok for a
while
> > > and some times it seems to surge , but moastly it just feels
flat .
> > > Ive checked all visible hoses for splits , cleaned out the
> > > waistgate solenoid . i can move the waistgate and it springs
back
> > > ok Sometimes i can here the turbo spin up , sometimes i cant
> > > any ideas please
> > > thanks
> >
> >
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[Jay Erlenbach]

I got mine from Big A Auto parts for about $58 plus
$16 for the mounting cup (Up to $20 now I think). Its
an Autometer Ultra-Lite 2 1/16" gauge with a top end
of 20 PSI.

Installation was a breeze, the hardest part was
getting the back-light power from the instrument
cluster so that it fades with the rest.
I'm pretty sure Dave C still has the guide on his web
site... Thats what I used.

Jay Erlenbach
'92 Subaru Legacy Turbo Sedan (US Spec)

--- Subaru-Nissan Fan <nissans14@yahoo.com> wrote:
> where are you all getting your boost gauge from? who
> has the cheepest one?
> I'm not looking at raising the boost at all but i
> would like to know if its
> all there....
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Miki [mailto:awdturbodude@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 22 AM
> To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Help Slow Tegacy
> Turbo
>
>
> Welcome to the gang (Rob?) !
>
> In my opinion, the VERY first thing you should do,
> is to install a
> boost gauge, that is considered a must on these
> cars (I'm assuming
> you don't have one since you're not mentioning any
> boost figures).
>
> Then, if you notice that there really isn't enough
> boost all the
> time, try with a MBC as Dave suggested, they
> aren't that expensive
> and as he also said, they work a lot better than
> the stock one. If
> the problem with low boost still remains after
> that, I'd guess your
> BOV is leaking, get a new one, they aren't that
> expensive either, and
> very easy to replace.
>
> If there, however, is enough boost all the time,
> but the car still
> refuses to accelerate, I'd bet it's the same thing
> I had a year ago,
> i.e the damn AFM is broken. I broke mine when I
> put too much oil on a
> drop-in performance filter... The AFM is quite
> expensive, so you
> wanna be sure it's broken before you get a new
> one. Just yesterday I
> heard of a guy who had cleaned his AFM with some
> kinda "brake-cleaner
> spray", and got it working !!! I can't recommend
> it to anyone,
> haven't tried it on my broken one yet either, but
> I sure will.
>
> So, the thing you maybe should start with is the
> boost gauge, then
> perhaps remove the AFM and check if it looks
> dirty.
>
> Good luck !
>
> * Miki *
>
>
>
> --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., rob440@h... wrote:
> > I have a 93 uk spec 20L legacy turbo
> > ive only had it a month and was well impressed
> with the
> > performance , But it now seems to have lost all
> boost presure ,
> > Everu now and then it seems to mend itself and
> go ok for a while
> > and some times it seems to surge , but moastly
> it just feels flat .
> > Ive checked all visible hoses for splits ,
> cleaned out the
> > waistgate solenoid . i can move the waistgate
> and it springs back
> > ok Sometimes i can here the turbo spin up ,
> sometimes i cant
> > any ideas please
> > thanks
>
>
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[Josh Colombo]

Not sure if this was already answered

Afm is air flow meter, and probably also known as mass air flow
meter...I think
Pcv is the positive crankcase ventalation valve, it is on the passenger
side of the US Legacies, just on the side of the throttle assembly/plate


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-----Original Message-----
From: rob440@hotmail.com [mailto:rob440@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 3:51 PM
To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Help Slow Tegacy Turbo


thanks guys 4 all your help
nice to find a group dedicated to legacy,s and not all impreza sorry
but im new to legacys .Whats a afm . and a pcv valve . i take
it bov means = blow off valve
/dump valve . i think i checked that coulden blow through it and it
dident seem to leak n, diafram seemed ok
going to get myself a boost gauge to start with and take it from
there
thanks for all your help
ROB
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Miki [mailto:awdturbodude@y...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 22 AM
> > To: BC-BFLegacyWorks@y...
> > Subject: [BC-BFLegacyWorks] Re: Help Slow Tegacy Turbo
> >
> >
> > Welcome to the gang (Rob?) !
> >
> > In my opinion, the VERY first thing you should do, is to
install a
> > boost gauge, that is considered a must on these cars (I'm
assuming
> > you don't have one since you're not mentioning any boost
figures).
> >
> > Then, if you notice that there really isn't enough boost all the
> > time, try with a MBC as Dave suggested, they aren't that
expensive
> > and as he also said, they work a lot better than the stock one.
If
> > the problem with low boost still remains after that, I'd guess
your
> > BOV is leaking, get a new one, they aren't that expensive
either, and
> > very easy to replace.
> >
> > If there, however, is enough boost all the time, but the car
still
> > refuses to accelerate, I'd bet it's the same thing I had a year
ago,
> > i.e the damn AFM is broken. I broke mine when I put too much
oil on a
> > drop-in performance filter... The AFM is quite expensive, so you
> > wanna be sure it's broken before you get a new one. Just
yesterday I
> > heard of a guy who had cleaned his AFM with some kinda "brake-
cleaner
> > spray", and got it working !!! I can't recommend it to anyone,
> > haven't tried it on my broken one yet either, but I sure will.
> >
> > So, the thing you maybe should start with is the boost gauge,
then
> > perhaps remove the AFM and check if it looks dirty.
> >
> > Good luck !
> >
> > * Miki *
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., rob440@h... wrote:
> > > I have a 93 uk spec 20L legacy turbo
> > > ive only had it a month and was well impressed with the
> > > performance , But it now seems to have lost all boost
presure ,
> > > Everu now and then it seems to mend itself and go ok for a
while
> > > and some times it seems to surge , but moastly it just feels
flat .
> > > Ive checked all visible hoses for splits , cleaned out the
> > > waistgate solenoid . i can move the waistgate and it springs
back
> > > ok Sometimes i can here the turbo spin up , sometimes i cant
> > > any ideas please
> > > thanks
> >
> >
> >
> > ADVERTISEMENT
> >
> > You can, too! Start here...
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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