Standard Boost Solenoid (long)

[milehial2000]

I didn't look to see what codes 44 and 45 are but would guess one to
be caused by the solenoid being absent. In most cases when factory
items such as relays or solenoids are removed the ECU can be tricked
by replacing the component with a resistor to "fool" the ECU. A
100-150 ohm 1 watt risistor usually works and I would try that first
but this solenoid measures 20 ohms and a 20 ohm 10 watt resistor might
be needed. The other code might have something to do with atmospheric
pressure sensing by the original pressure sensor as the way I read it
from our "detailed" service lit. on the turbo models is that the
original pressure sensor does double duty sensing atmospheric
pressure in one position of the pressure sensing solenoid ( the small
one on the same bracket) and sensing boost in the other position. I am
planning on installing a controller myself soon and may come up with
more info on this.
Al(CO)




--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "barge_arse_liberty" <cbresneh@t...>
wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Just a quick question for the techies out there.
>
> I have a Blitz EBC controlling the levels of boost in my 93 Aust
Spec
> RS Liberty.
>
> Is it possible to completely remove the old factory solenoid from
the
> already cramped engine bay?? I tried unplugging it to see and got an
> error 44 and 45.
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
> Tasmania, Australia


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[barge_arse_liberty]

Thanks for that Al,

I have a friend who has an Apexi AVCR fitted to his MY99 WRX. The
workshop that fitted the AVCR fitted a resistor similar to the one
you mentioned and it stopped all error codes and he completely
removed the boost solenoid from the engine bay.

So would it be safe to say it would be the same for an earlier model
Liberty RS?? (Surely they could not be that different)

I am going to have a look at his mod sometime today and verify that
it is similar and exactly how it was done.

Cheers


Chris



--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "milehial2000" <acroxford@h...> wrote:
> I didn't look to see what codes 44 and 45 are but would guess one
to
> be caused by the solenoid being absent. In most cases when factory
> items such as relays or solenoids are removed the ECU can be
tricked
> by replacing the component with a resistor to "fool" the ECU. A
> 100-150 ohm 1 watt risistor usually works and I would try that
first
> but this solenoid measures 20 ohms and a 20 ohm 10 watt resistor
might
> be needed. The other code might have something to do with
atmospheric
> pressure sensing by the original pressure sensor as the way I read
it
> from our "detailed" service lit. on the turbo models is that the
> original pressure sensor does double duty sensing atmospheric
> pressure in one position of the pressure sensing solenoid ( the
small
> one on the same bracket) and sensing boost in the other position. I
am
> planning on installing a controller myself soon and may come up
with
> more info on this.
> Al(CO)
>
>
>
>
> --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "barge_arse_liberty" <cbresneh@t...>
> wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Just a quick question for the techies out there.
> >
> > I have a Blitz EBC controlling the levels of boost in my 93 Aust
> Spec
> > RS Liberty.
> >
> > Is it possible to completely remove the old factory solenoid from
> the
> > already cramped engine bay?? I tried unplugging it to see and got
an
> > error 44 and 45.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Chris
> > Tasmania, Australia


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[milehial2000]

I think that the mod would be the same on your car




--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "barge_arse_liberty" <cbresneh@t...>
wrote:
> Thanks for that Al,
>
> I have a friend who has an Apexi AVCR fitted to his MY99 WRX. The
> workshop that fitted the AVCR fitted a resistor similar to the one
> you mentioned and it stopped all error codes and he completely
> removed the boost solenoid from the engine bay.
>
> So would it be safe to say it would be the same for an earlier model
> Liberty RS?? (Surely they could not be that different)
>
> I am going to have a look at his mod sometime today and verify that
> it is similar and exactly how it was done.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "milehial2000" <acroxford@h...> wrote:
> > I didn't look to see what codes 44 and 45 are but would guess one
> to
> > be caused by the solenoid being absent. In most cases when factory
> > items such as relays or solenoids are removed the ECU can be
> tricked
> > by replacing the component with a resistor to "fool" the ECU. A
> > 100-150 ohm 1 watt risistor usually works and I would try that
> first
> > but this solenoid measures 20 ohms and a 20 ohm 10 watt resistor
> might
> > be needed. The other code might have something to do with
> atmospheric
> > pressure sensing by the original pressure sensor as the way I read
> it
> > from our "detailed" service lit. on the turbo models is that the
> > original pressure sensor does double duty sensing atmospheric
> > pressure in one position of the pressure sensing solenoid ( the
> small
> > one on the same bracket) and sensing boost in the other position.
I
> am
> > planning on installing a controller myself soon and may come up
> with
> > more info on this.
> > Al(CO)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "barge_arse_liberty" <cbresneh@t...>
> > wrote:
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > Just a quick question for the techies out there.
> > >
> > > I have a Blitz EBC controlling the levels of boost in my 93 Aust
> > Spec
> > > RS Liberty.
> > >
> > > Is it possible to completely remove the old factory solenoid
from
> > the
> > > already cramped engine bay?? I tried unplugging it to see and
got
> an
> > > error 44 and 45.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Chris
> > > Tasmania, Australia


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[ob1poor]

b_a_l, i'd like to see what you find concerning how it's wired up and
what not.

--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "barge_arse_liberty" <cbresneh@t...>
wrote:
> Thanks for that Al,
>
> I have a friend who has an Apexi AVCR fitted to his MY99 WRX. The
> workshop that fitted the AVCR fitted a resistor similar to the one
> you mentioned and it stopped all error codes and he completely
> removed the boost solenoid from the engine bay.
>
> So would it be safe to say it would be the same for an earlier
model
> Liberty RS?? (Surely they could not be that different)
>
> I am going to have a look at his mod sometime today and verify that
> it is similar and exactly how it was done.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "milehial2000" <acroxford@h...> wrote:
> > I didn't look to see what codes 44 and 45 are but would guess one
> to
> > be caused by the solenoid being absent. In most cases when
factory
> > items such as relays or solenoids are removed the ECU can be
> tricked
> > by replacing the component with a resistor to "fool" the ECU. A
> > 100-150 ohm 1 watt risistor usually works and I would try that
> first
> > but this solenoid measures 20 ohms and a 20 ohm 10 watt resistor
> might
> > be needed. The other code might have something to do with
> atmospheric
> > pressure sensing by the original pressure sensor as the way I
read
> it
> > from our "detailed" service lit. on the turbo models is that the
> > original pressure sensor does double duty sensing atmospheric
> > pressure in one position of the pressure sensing solenoid ( the
> small
> > one on the same bracket) and sensing boost in the other position.
I
> am
> > planning on installing a controller myself soon and may come up
> with
> > more info on this.
> > Al(CO)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "barge_arse_liberty"
<cbresneh@t...>
> > wrote:
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > Just a quick question for the techies out there.
> > >
> > > I have a Blitz EBC controlling the levels of boost in my 93
Aust
> > Spec
> > > RS Liberty.
> > >
> > > Is it possible to completely remove the old factory solenoid
from
> > the
> > > already cramped engine bay?? I tried unplugging it to see and
got
> an
> > > error 44 and 45.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Chris
> > > Tasmania, Australia


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[milehial2000]

I have wiring diagram if that is what you mean and I also have a parts
breakdown from the Subaru parts dept Computer (Shh don't tell them)
that tells how everything is hooked up. Our factory manuals in the
states almost totaly ignore the fact that the turbo was even built.
My Chilton '85-'96 has more info on the turbo than the factory manual
???
AL(CO)



--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "ob1poor" <ob1poor@y...> wrote:
> b_a_l, i'd like to see what you find concerning how it's wired up
and
> what not.
>
> --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "barge_arse_liberty" <cbresneh@t...>
> wrote:
> > Thanks for that Al,
> >
> > I have a friend who has an Apexi AVCR fitted to his MY99 WRX. The
> > workshop that fitted the AVCR fitted a resistor similar to the one
> > you mentioned and it stopped all error codes and he completely
> > removed the boost solenoid from the engine bay.
> >
> > So would it be safe to say it would be the same for an earlier
> model
> > Liberty RS?? (Surely they could not be that different)
> >
> > I am going to have a look at his mod sometime today and verify
that
> > it is similar and exactly how it was done.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "milehial2000" <acroxford@h...>
wrote:
> > > I didn't look to see what codes 44 and 45 are but would guess
one
> > to
> > > be caused by the solenoid being absent. In most cases when
> factory
> > > items such as relays or solenoids are removed the ECU can be
> > tricked
> > > by replacing the component with a resistor to "fool" the ECU. A
> > > 100-150 ohm 1 watt risistor usually works and I would try that
> > first
> > > but this solenoid measures 20 ohms and a 20 ohm 10 watt resistor
> > might
> > > be needed. The other code might have something to do with
> > atmospheric
> > > pressure sensing by the original pressure sensor as the way I
> read
> > it
> > > from our "detailed" service lit. on the turbo models is that the
> > > original pressure sensor does double duty sensing atmospheric
> > > pressure in one position of the pressure sensing solenoid ( the
> > small
> > > one on the same bracket) and sensing boost in the other
position.
> I
> > am
> > > planning on installing a controller myself soon and may come up
> > with
> > > more info on this.
> > > Al(CO)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "barge_arse_liberty"
> <cbresneh@t...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Hi All,
> > > >
> > > > Just a quick question for the techies out there.
> > > >
> > > > I have a Blitz EBC controlling the levels of boost in my 93
> Aust
> > > Spec
> > > > RS Liberty.
> > > >
> > > > Is it possible to completely remove the old factory solenoid
> from
> > > the
> > > > already cramped engine bay?? I tried unplugging it to see and
> got
> > an
> > > > error 44 and 45.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > >
> > > > Chris
> > > > Tasmania, Australia


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[barge_arse_liberty]

Hi Al,

Are you be able to put a copy of the wiring diagram for the solenoid
in the files for all to see???

Cheers

Chris
Tasmania, Australia


--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "milehial2000" <acroxford@h...> wrote:
> I have wiring diagram if that is what you mean and I also have a
parts
> breakdown from the Subaru parts dept Computer (Shh don't tell them)
> that tells how everything is hooked up. Our factory manuals in the
> states almost totaly ignore the fact that the turbo was even built.
> My Chilton '85-'96 has more info on the turbo than the factory
manual
> ???
> AL(CO)
>
>
>
> --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "ob1poor" <ob1poor@y...> wrote:
> > b_a_l, i'd like to see what you find concerning how it's wired up
> and
> > what not.
> >
> > --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "barge_arse_liberty"
<cbresneh@t...>
> > wrote:
> > > Thanks for that Al,
> > >
> > > I have a friend who has an Apexi AVCR fitted to his MY99 WRX.
The
> > > workshop that fitted the AVCR fitted a resistor similar to the
one
> > > you mentioned and it stopped all error codes and he completely
> > > removed the boost solenoid from the engine bay.
> > >
> > > So would it be safe to say it would be the same for an earlier
> > model
> > > Liberty RS?? (Surely they could not be that different)
> > >
> > > I am going to have a look at his mod sometime today and verify
> that
> > > it is similar and exactly how it was done.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "milehial2000" <acroxford@h...>
> wrote:
> > > > I didn't look to see what codes 44 and 45 are but would guess
> one
> > > to
> > > > be caused by the solenoid being absent. In most cases when
> > factory
> > > > items such as relays or solenoids are removed the ECU can be
> > > tricked
> > > > by replacing the component with a resistor to "fool" the ECU.
A
> > > > 100-150 ohm 1 watt risistor usually works and I would try
that
> > > first
> > > > but this solenoid measures 20 ohms and a 20 ohm 10 watt
resistor
> > > might
> > > > be needed. The other code might have something to do with
> > > atmospheric
> > > > pressure sensing by the original pressure sensor as the way I
> > read
> > > it
> > > > from our "detailed" service lit. on the turbo models is that
the
> > > > original pressure sensor does double duty sensing
atmospheric
> > > > pressure in one position of the pressure sensing solenoid (
the
> > > small
> > > > one on the same bracket) and sensing boost in the other
> position.
> > I
> > > am
> > > > planning on installing a controller myself soon and may come
up
> > > with
> > > > more info on this.
> > > > Al(CO)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "barge_arse_liberty"
> > <cbresneh@t...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Hi All,
> > > > >
> > > > > Just a quick question for the techies out there.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a Blitz EBC controlling the levels of boost in my 93
> > Aust
> > > > Spec
> > > > > RS Liberty.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is it possible to completely remove the old factory
solenoid
> > from
> > > > the
> > > > > already cramped engine bay?? I tried unplugging it to see
and
> > got
> > > an
> > > > > error 44 and 45.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers
> > > > >
> > > > > Chris
> > > > > Tasmania, Australia


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[ob1poor]

yup, that's what i'm looking for. you can email me with it if you'd
like. ob1poor@cs.com

--- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "milehial2000" <acroxford@h...> wrote:
> I have wiring diagram if that is what you mean and I also have a
parts
> breakdown from the Subaru parts dept Computer (Shh don't tell them)
> that tells how everything is hooked up. Our factory manuals in the
> states almost totaly ignore the fact that the turbo was even built.
> My Chilton '85-'96 has more info on the turbo than the factory
manual
> ???
> AL(CO)
>
>
>
> --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "ob1poor" <ob1poor@y...> wrote:
> > b_a_l, i'd like to see what you find concerning how it's wired up
> and
> > what not.
> >
> > --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "barge_arse_liberty"
<cbresneh@t...>
> > wrote:
> > > Thanks for that Al,
> > >
> > > I have a friend who has an Apexi AVCR fitted to his MY99 WRX.
The
> > > workshop that fitted the AVCR fitted a resistor similar to the
one
> > > you mentioned and it stopped all error codes and he completely
> > > removed the boost solenoid from the engine bay.
> > >
> > > So would it be safe to say it would be the same for an earlier
> > model
> > > Liberty RS?? (Surely they could not be that different)
> > >
> > > I am going to have a look at his mod sometime today and verify
> that
> > > it is similar and exactly how it was done.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "milehial2000" <acroxford@h...>
> wrote:
> > > > I didn't look to see what codes 44 and 45 are but would guess
> one
> > > to
> > > > be caused by the solenoid being absent. In most cases when
> > factory
> > > > items such as relays or solenoids are removed the ECU can be
> > > tricked
> > > > by replacing the component with a resistor to "fool" the ECU.
A
> > > > 100-150 ohm 1 watt risistor usually works and I would try
that
> > > first
> > > > but this solenoid measures 20 ohms and a 20 ohm 10 watt
resistor
> > > might
> > > > be needed. The other code might have something to do with
> > > atmospheric
> > > > pressure sensing by the original pressure sensor as the way I
> > read
> > > it
> > > > from our "detailed" service lit. on the turbo models is that
the
> > > > original pressure sensor does double duty sensing
atmospheric
> > > > pressure in one position of the pressure sensing solenoid (
the
> > > small
> > > > one on the same bracket) and sensing boost in the other
> position.
> > I
> > > am
> > > > planning on installing a controller myself soon and may come
up
> > > with
> > > > more info on this.
> > > > Al(CO)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In BC-BFLegacyWorks@y..., "barge_arse_liberty"
> > <cbresneh@t...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Hi All,
> > > > >
> > > > > Just a quick question for the techies out there.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a Blitz EBC controlling the levels of boost in my 93
> > Aust
> > > > Spec
> > > > > RS Liberty.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is it possible to completely remove the old factory
solenoid
> > from
> > > > the
> > > > > already cramped engine bay?? I tried unplugging it to see
and
> > got
> > > an
> > > > > error 44 and 45.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers
> > > > >
> > > > > Chris
> > > > > Tasmania, Australia


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