Air ride suspension

Struts, spring, anti-rollbars, braces and the like.

Moderators: Helpinators, Moderators

Post Reply
mike-tracy
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 5000
Joined: Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:52 am
Location: Des Moines, Wa

Air ride suspension

Post by mike-tracy »

So there's a legacy I have access to that has the air ride option. Suspension has already been replaced with conventional struts, and I wouldn't be interested in the air struts even if they were intact.

What I'm wondering is if I can use the air compressor and tank on my car, say, to fill up the tires or something? How powerful is it, and how large is the tank? How noisy is it? Anyone have any experience using it in other than it's intended purpose?
1992 Legacy SS 5mt, build in progress
Josh Colombo wrote: Mon Jan 14, 2002 10:23 am Wait....I'm confused now.
evolutionmovement
Knowledgeable
Knowledgeable
Posts: 9809
Joined: Mon Jun 16, 2003 11:20 pm
Location: Beverly, MA

Re: Air ride suspension

Post by evolutionmovement »

Keeping in mind that I've never seen one, you should be able to set it up with the right fittings, but coiling a long enough one to reach all the tires and keeping it somewhere might be a real PITA. You might also need a manual switch depending on how the system was originally triggered. I also don't know how big the storage tank is (or if it has one). If it doesn't, I don't know what the duty cycle for the compressor is designed for, e.g. running it full time filling 4 flats may burn it out, I don't know. I also don't know what the compressor will run to for pressure, but I imagine the struts were a deal over tire pressures, so that shouldn't be a problem.

This is similar to an idea I was pondering when I was designing my anti-lag system, which used a compressed air tank to store, well, compressed air for use at low rpms when the turbo wasn't producing boost yet. The idea was to take waste compressed air from the intake (or possibly overboosting slightly by opening the waste gate later and using the excess air to fill the tank, but that would require a good control system and a lot of intrusive piping into the passenger compartment). BUT, I also figured it might be nice to be have a fitting on the tank to add compressed air from an external compressor or, if it can produce enough volume and pressure, the on board compressor from the air suspension model. Incidentally, the idea is sound as the Subaru and Ford WRC teams used the same concept, IIRC, somewhere in the 1998-2002 season range but the FIA banned it after a few races, I believe. At any rate, I'm almost positive it didn't last a full season.
Midnight in a Perfect World on Amazon or order anywhere. The first book in a quartet chronicling the rise of a man from angry criminal to philanthropist. Midnight... is a distopic noirish novel featuring 'Duchess', a modified 1990 Subaru Legacy wagon.
Legacy777
Site Admin
Site Admin
Posts: 27926
Joined: Tue Oct 15, 2002 11:37 am
Location: Houston, Tx
Contact:

Re: Air ride suspension

Post by Legacy777 »

I don't have the specs on the compressor, but I would have to say the compressor is going to be designed for higher pressures, but rather low volume. The strut bladders are not very large and don't require a large volume of air to inflate them.

This compressor may work for tires and such, but it's probably not going to be very fast.
Josh

surrealmirage.com/subaru
1990 Legacy (AWD, 6MT, & EJ22T Swap)
2020 Outback Limted XT

If you need to get a hold of me please email me rather then pm
mike-tracy
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 5000
Joined: Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:52 am
Location: Des Moines, Wa

Re: Air ride suspension

Post by mike-tracy »

It's located under the driver side fender, right? I think that's where the hoses going to the front struts go. You're right Josh, the hard plastic hoses are really tiny, so high pressure low volume air it is. I figure since it's out of the way, it would be a good thing to have for an emergency. I'd have a small NPT port for it somewhere close by, and store the air hoses with the spare tire.
1992 Legacy SS 5mt, build in progress
Josh Colombo wrote: Mon Jan 14, 2002 10:23 am Wait....I'm confused now.
Legacy777
Site Admin
Site Admin
Posts: 27926
Joined: Tue Oct 15, 2002 11:37 am
Location: Houston, Tx
Contact:

Re: Air ride suspension

Post by Legacy777 »

Yes, it's located up under the driver's side fender below where the battery goes.
Josh

surrealmirage.com/subaru
1990 Legacy (AWD, 6MT, & EJ22T Swap)
2020 Outback Limted XT

If you need to get a hold of me please email me rather then pm
PhyrraM
Fourth Gear
Posts: 1980
Joined: Thu Aug 11, 2005 4:34 pm
Location: Lake Elsinore, CA

Re: Air ride suspension

Post by PhyrraM »

Stock compressor and air tank.
Image


Stock mounting bracket stripped of components.
Image


Larger, more capable, air compressor fitted to bracket and stock tank modified for regular air lines.
Image


Modified setup mounted in stock location using stock bracket.
Image


My compressor came with my Praxis suspension, but I'm 100% certain that Firestone Air-Ride kits for trucks come with the same compressor. If your creative, any compressor of similar size can be made to fit.

In any case, just some ideas....
'93 Winestone SS Auto, '91 Pearl White SS.
'93 Pure White SS EJ20G slanty intercooled, SIDESWIPED! In stasis.
'94 FWD and '95 AWD Laguna Blue SVXs.
2017 Pure Red BRZ Limited w/Performance pack
mike-tracy
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 5000
Joined: Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:52 am
Location: Des Moines, Wa

Re: Air ride suspension

Post by mike-tracy »

Wow, thanks Jess! Pretty much if I can get it at the junk yard, I'm willing to try it.
1992 Legacy SS 5mt, build in progress
Josh Colombo wrote: Mon Jan 14, 2002 10:23 am Wait....I'm confused now.
Legacy777
Site Admin
Site Admin
Posts: 27926
Joined: Tue Oct 15, 2002 11:37 am
Location: Houston, Tx
Contact:

Re: Air ride suspension

Post by Legacy777 »

Yeah....that's a pretty cool setup!
Josh

surrealmirage.com/subaru
1990 Legacy (AWD, 6MT, & EJ22T Swap)
2020 Outback Limted XT

If you need to get a hold of me please email me rather then pm
Post Reply