86 Subaru Leone

[beatersubi]

Boy NICO, that set up is lookin' TITS. (I guess that's old school slang for "sick") Keep up the good work. Steve.

Haha. Tits never get old. And this car is, most definitely, Tits.

[Legacy777]

Nico,

Do you have two of those oil coolers? That is pretty sweet!

Yes that is a volvo I don't no what model my father is working on that and the Brit car as well. Same owner for both those cars

I thought that looked like a Brit sports car.

[evolutionmovement]

It's a P1800 with an aftermarket grille. The bodies for the first ones were actually built in the UK by Jensen, so you're inadvertently not too far off, Josh. I'm a huge fan of the P1800ES (wagon version). The record holder for a car with the most mileage is a P1800. However, that comes at the price of being slow.

[NICO]

^^ that's a crazy fact the most ks ever holy cow

Nico,

Do you have two of those oil coolers? That is pretty sweet!

Yes and I don't even know what to do with them trying to sell them. My dad is so not having me put it on lol says he's seen so man oil leaks because of hose braking. I was going to do it on my legacy because I had a bit more room up front this gl-10 has no room even for a fmic




Also I have a brand new OEM hood for the gl-10, I don't know if I should put the big scoop on it or cut it and fold down vents up front to let the air out near the rad.. I kind of am thinking the front vent

[evolutionmovement]

If you can build a shroud for the front vent to the radiator(s), it should help cooling and increase aero efficiency. The area after the leading edge of the hood is a low pressure zone, the front is high pressure. As the speed of the air increases over the vent it helps draw air through the radiators more efficiently than a fan pulling air into a turbulent engine compartment. Ideally, you'd also want to instal flat panels under the engine compartment area to reduce undercarriage-engine compartment drag (in general, somewhere between 10 and 15% of the total drag, I forget which). It also looks cool. The down side is that the more efficient air flow is very good at putting coolant on your windshield if radiator blows out.

[Legacy777]

Nico,

Yeah that'd be a concern of mine too....having a hose break and leak oil.

Regarding the first pic with the vents. On the rally cars, they have a modified exchanger setup where the radiator and intercooler hot air typically exit through that vent on the hood. The hood scoop is actually the air intake for the motor.

[NICO]

If you can build a shroud for the front vent to the radiator(s), it should help cooling and increase aero efficiency. The area after the leading edge of the hood is a low pressure zone, the front is high pressure. As the speed of the air increases over the vent it helps draw air through the radiators more efficiently than a fan pulling air into a turbulent engine compartment. Ideally, you'd also want to instal flat panels under the engine compartment area to reduce undercarriage-engine compartment drag (in general, somewhere between 10 and 15% of the total drag, I forget which). It also looks cool. The down side is that the more efficient air flow is very good at putting coolant on your windshield if radiator blows out.

ok so i want to cut a vent in the front of the hood where the rad sits ? thats the best spot right ?

Nico,

Yeah that'd be a concern of mine too....having a hose break and leak oil.

Regarding the first pic with the vents. On the rally cars, they have a modified exchanger setup where the radiator and intercooler hot air typically exit through that vent on the hood. The hood scoop is actually the air intake for the motor.

well now i am in for it the factory ej22t oil cooler does not work well with the twin scroll headers so i kind amd going to use the spec c version 8 oil cooler, i'm going to be so paranoide now with it but ill keep a eye on everything. im not driving the car everyday just race day really and sunaday drive.




also so i just got this hood in what should i put on it ? what type of vents ? side ones or scoop it or cut it and make vents up the middle



some thing like this and a scoop ?



also got the sti key to work, i went to home depot cut the key and it worked perfect

[evolutionmovement]

More like the rally car. Those BMW vents look more for general heat extraction. You'll be restricted by design for how you'll have to make the vent, but you want it behind the radiator, perhaps with a lip sticking up slightly along the leading edge, but at the rear of the vent you want it to go inwards towards the radiator. On the back of the radiator, you want a shroud that reaches up to meet the hood vent, angled towards the back of the car as best as possible with the engine and crap in the way. If you looked at the side of radiator, the shroud would be off the back something like this: |/ so that the air has the easiest time going out through the hood. That one on the rally car is too far back for what you'll be able to manage. You want the area of the opening to match the area of the cooling system as much as possible, so yours would be wider, but not extend as far back since your engine isn't dry sumped and built into a custom chassis where you could get the engine low enough to allow it.

To the best of my knowledge, I have the details right, but you might want to look into the part about the area of the extraction vent vs. the radiator to confirm. I've been kind of purging car knowledge from my brain these last few years if they don't apply to my own designs and there have also been some collateral damage. My brain is also lazier in remembering things thanks to the ease of Google.

[NICO]

More like the rally car. Those BMW vents look more for general heat extraction. You'll be restricted by design for how you'll have to make the vent, but you want it behind the radiator, perhaps with a lip sticking up slightly along the leading edge, but at the rear of the vent you want it to go inwards towards the radiator. On the back of the radiator, you want a shroud that reaches up to meet the hood vent, angled towards the back of the car as best as possible with the engine and crap in the way. If you looked at the side of radiator, the shroud would be off the back something like this: |/ so that the air has the easiest time going out through the hood. That one on the rally car is too far back for what you'll be able to manage. You want the area of the opening to match the area of the cooling system as much as possible, so yours would be wider, but not extend as far back since your engine isn't dry sumped and built into a custom chassis where you could get the engine low enough to allow it.

To the best of my knowledge, I have the details right, but you might want to look into the part about the area of the extraction vent vs. the radiator to confirm. I've been kind of purging car knowledge from my brain these last few years if they don't apply to my own designs and there have also been some collateral damage. My brain is also lazier in remembering things thanks to the ease of Google.

wow thats crazy what i got to do, there is all most no room for rad fans when i drop this motor in !

what you think of these http://trueforgedwheels.com/#/content/p ... ts/TF1.jpg

cut two holes and add them on the sides or right in the middle if they are not that big

[evolutionmovement]

You want something more like an Evo, but I agree that even on the Legacy there's very little room for a shroud, which is why I'd like to do one, but probably won't. I imagine space is even tighter on the Loyale/GL. I suppose you might get part of the effect with those vents—or any vents—to help extract hot air, but without the shroud, it likely won't do a lot. Those particular vents are far more cosmetic in that they're small, have grille work that has a large proportion solid material, and I'm not sure the effect of the vanes in it, but they also reduce the open area. In any event, you want to locate them pretty much just behind the radiator where the low pressure zone is greatest and it can help extract the hot air. The further back you go, the more the airflow is going to be reattaching to the hood. Of course, this is all just working off my very rudimentary aerodynamics knowledge, but none of us has access to a wind tunnel or even CFD software.

[NICO]

You want something more like an Evo, but I agree that even on the Legacy there's very little room for a shroud, which is why I'd like to do one, but probably won't. I imagine space is even tighter on the Loyale/GL. I suppose you might get part of the effect with those vents—or any vents—to help extract hot air, but without the shroud, it likely won't do a lot. Those particular vents are far more cosmetic in that they're small, have grille work that has a large proportion solid material, and I'm not sure the effect of the vanes in it, but they also reduce the open area. In any event, you want to locate them pretty much just behind the radiator where the low pressure zone is greatest and it can help extract the hot air. The further back you go, the more the airflow is going to be reattaching to the hood. Of course, this is all just working off my very rudimentary aerodynamics knowledge, but none of us has access to a wind tunnel or even CFD software.

Omg I seen the one on the evo but I need to measure it, this hood has that bump it's making it hard for me to put anything flat on it

[evolutionmovement]

You can cut across the bump. Or maybe do a 3-part vent divided by the sides of the bump?

[crisco]

nico, ive said it before and i'll say it again.

you crazy.

i love it!

[NICO]

You can cut across the bump. Or maybe do a 3-part vent divided by the sides of the bump?

I was thinking in the inner part and stop at the bump and fold it down one cut ? That way it has a little lift like how you said to.

nico, ive said it before and i'll say it again.

you crazy.

i love it!

Lol thanks man, I grew up around all these crazy car stuff with my dad so I guess if it was not my brother it's me

[Legacy777]

well now i am in for it the factory ej22t oil cooler does not work well with the twin scroll headers so i kind amd going to use the spec c version 8 oil cooler, i'm going to be so paranoide now with it but ill keep a eye on everything. im not driving the car everyday just race day really and sunaday drive.

Well I'd use braided SS lines with Aeroquip fittings if possible.

If you're running a stand alone, put a warning or even an engine shutdown if the oil pressure drops below a certain point.

[Legacy777]

Of course, this is all just working off my very rudimentary aerodynamics knowledge, but none of us has access to a wind tunnel or even CFD software.

We may not have access to a wind tunnel, but NICO could do a "tuft" test.

Something like this http://youtu.be/_JwXdkjiMVw

[evolutionmovement]

Yeah, he could. There might even be one on youtube already.

[NICO]

well now i am in for it the factory ej22t oil cooler does not work well with the twin scroll headers so i kind amd going to use the spec c version 8 oil cooler, i'm going to be so paranoide now with it but ill keep a eye on everything. im not driving the car everyday just race day really and sunaday drive.

Well I'd use braided SS lines with Aeroquip fittings if possible.

If you're running a stand alone, put a warning or even an engine shutdown if the oil pressure drops below a certain point.

ya thats a good idea just googled those going to look around for some very strong hose and adapters

[NICO]

Exedy twin plate HD is ready for the power



HSD coilovers are here with extra rear mounts


Tial BJ VALVE




next up is intercooler ????.... oil cooler , oem rad, andddddd i forget !

[NICO]

The Subaru Gods said Let there be ROCK ! AC/DC DC/AC DCCD control !!!

[SiCkSTi04]

freaking clean, What was there before?

[NICO]

freaking clean, What was there before?

there was just empty blue caps, i popped them of and slid those dccd plugs in.





maybe just maybe it might work ! but i dont like it !







found my DD car soon to be a nice EG33 swaped DD car in the future after the gl-10 build

[beatersubi]

DD for how long?
That scoop doesn't fit that hood or car.

[Jessekrs123]

Hell yea to the EG33 swap. Can't wait to get mine done... Those are a sweet pair of cars you have there.

[NICO]

^ ya should be a fun car

DD for how long?
That scoop doesn't fit that hood or car.

LOL for a year till next summer then a swap right away





factory gl-10 flares


well well well look what has the same shape as the gl-10 !!! do i see 245 45 16 in the future ?


also a sneak peek at my military grade aviation 1 plug engine harness plug which connects my subaru tecnico international built EJ22T motor to the V88 ViPEC ECU. Costume made by Franz diebold @ diebold autosport