Xise's 1993 Legacy Turbo

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Re: Xise's 1993 Legacy Turbo

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bah, too bad I already orded it on rock auto (only $60 :D) and just got it in the mail today....oh well

WElp back to works
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one cruddy oil pump
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everything removed
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passenger's cam seal all nasty as fuck
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driver's side not so bad, not leaing but being replaced anyway
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well doesn't this just look like shit...lol

there was also a nice puddle of power steering fluid under the car when I got to school this morning, hopefully I will go in for the open lab tomorrow instead of being lazy and sleeping in and not doing shit like I always do on Saturday
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Re: Xise's 1993 Legacy Turbo

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I'm assuming you're replacing the o-ring behind the oil pump? Also check the backing plate screws on the oil pump.

Personally, I don't like the newer style t-belt tensioners. Either the one on the 06 Legacy I had wasn't ok, or they just don't hold the belts as well as the older style.
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Re: Xise's 1993 Legacy Turbo

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I'm replacing the entire oil pump itself, i had bought one a while back and just now getting around to doing that and the water pump. I wanted to do it when i swapped the motor out but was being rushed and had my Uncle busting my balls and looking over my shoulder the whole time.

I am going to be putting the cam seals in on tuesday, has anyone heard of putting grease in the slot the seal sits in? I read something about it somewhere else but it just didn't seem right to me for some reason, I would think either a small amount of engine oil or nothing at all.
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Re: Xise's 1993 Legacy Turbo

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No, I wouldn't put grease in there. I usually put a little bit of engine oil on the inner and outer part of the seal.
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lol the FSM actually does say to grease the seals...but still that ain't right. I am just going to use a bit of engine oil
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Maybe some light grease.....but I agree....oil is probably best.
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I used assembly lube, belt was pretty easy to do, I just used vice grips on the old belt to torque the cam gear bolts back on 50 ft/lbs and I used a spanner wrench yo hold the crank and torqued it to 80 ft/lbs...the spec gates gave was 69 ft/lbs...seemed too low so I went to 80...but shit even that seems low for such an important bolt...I want to up the torque another 20lbs lol....
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Also I got this all done, timing cover back on, everything torqued down and then read that I was supposed to use an anerobic sealer....I used the same thing I used on the water pump and the oil pan, this
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I sure will be pissed if I have to do this because I used the wrong sealant....I imagine it will be fine, and the FSM makes no mention of anerobic or not, it has the sealant icon, so fujibond?
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also the crank sensor is stuck in the old oil pump...looks like someone tried to bash it out with a hammer...needless to say it did not budge at all.

I HOPE the cranks sensor comes right out of the other motor...I really don't want to spend money on a new one...they are wicked expensive...no me gusta :(
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The cam bolt torque is only 47-54 ft-lbs.

Ultra Grey sealant is the correct sealant to use between the oil pump & block.
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I torqued the cams to 50 ft/lbs I was talking about the crankshaft, is 80 enough??

Got the crank sensor from the other motor, came out nice and easy, thank God :D A new crank sensor is like $150 at least!!

I also drained the transmission of fluid and got one of my axles done, i'll do the other one tomorrow and then the gasket/filter on the trans, hopefully all of this will bring me down to only leaking one fluid and get rid of all my codes.

I am also going to do all my gauge lights so ill post some pics once that is all set.
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Oh ok.....no, 80 ft-lbs is not enough. The crank pulley bolt should be torqued to around 110 ft-lbs

I also use a little bit of medium strength locktite
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hmmm ok, well I will have to torque it down tomorrow, I did drive it home today so that worries me a bit...not too too much though, I am sure it isn't going to just fly off on me. Seems to be running great, I even adjusted the TPS so that it idles a bit higher...seem like still not quite enough though. Maybe someone could do me a favor and measure the resistance of theirs.

I appear to be down to only 1 leak, power steering fluid, appears to be coming from everywhere so I am going to have to wash the engine bay and throw the pressure tester on and see where it is squirting out from. Hopefully I won't be replacing the entire rack...that would be a sad christmas time :(

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You'll be ok with the crank bolt. What happens over time though is the crank pulley can come loose.

As for TPS readings, you can follow these

http://www.main.experiencetherave.com/s ... sting1.jpg
http://www.main.experiencetherave.com/s ... sting2.jpg
http://www.main.experiencetherave.com/s ... sting3.jpg
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Re: Xise's 1993 Legacy Turbo

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Hey, Josh, are there any other gas tanks that fit our cars? I can't find a decent gas tank from the turbo legacies anywhere...and the dealer is out of the question $$$$$$$$$$$$$...
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I don't think it "has" to be a turbo legacy
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Any first gen legacy 90-94 should work. Wagon or sedan...it doesn't matter. I've got a wagon in mine. As long as it is an AWD gas tank.
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Week before final exams, got a shot of this kid's WRX wagon alongside mine, He is also running a straight pipe.
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I also made another emblem, this on is from a 96 outback...a little big bu I made it work
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I also appear to be leaking coolant still, is it common for these to leak at the thermostat housing? It seems like the leak just moved to the next leaky spot lol
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xise wrote:I'm replacing the entire oil pump itself, i had bought one a while back and just now getting around to doing that and the water pump. I wanted to do it when i swapped the motor out but was being rushed and had my Uncle busting my balls and looking over my shoulder the whole time.

I am going to be putting the cam seals in on tuesday, has anyone heard of putting grease in the slot the seal sits in? I read something about it somewhere else but it just didn't seem right to me for some reason, I would think either a small amount of engine oil or nothing at all.
I grease new seals all the time. Works great and I think the fsm does say to do so.
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xise wrote:hmmm ok, well I will have to torque it down tomorrow, I did drive it home today so that worries me a bit...not too too much though, I am sure it isn't going to just fly off on me. Seems to be running great, I even adjusted the TPS so that it idles a bit higher...seem like still not quite enough though. Maybe someone could do me a favor and measure the resistance of theirs.

I appear to be down to only 1 leak, power steering fluid, appears to be coming from everywhere so I am going to have to wash the engine bay and throw the pressure tester on and see where it is squirting out from. Hopefully I won't be replacing the entire rack...that would be a sad christmas time :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcYQb8ocqvs
Make sure you do not forget to tighten the crank bolt. It will come loose over time and mess your pussly up and crankshaft key and maybe even the crankshaft itself. I tightened mine once to factory spec which is way too low (I think around 70 ft lbs) and it came loose and destroyed my pulley, key and accessory belt and burnt a groove into the timing cover. Torque it to at least 110. I do mine to 125 ft lbs.
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You may have your water pump gasket a little crooked. Its kind of a bitch to get it to line up. Last water pump I did on my sisters legacy leaked afterwards and I had to redo it with another new gasket. Could be the hose?
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No biggie it was a slightly loose hose clamp, anyway I had other issues to deal with...namely this
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My axle decided it hates life and commits suicide, good thing I still had the old one which was good anyway so...back in business here, still I am weary to beat on it now..and I want to sooooo bad :D
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kimokalihi wrote:
xise wrote:I'm replacing the entire oil pump itself, i had bought one a w
hile back and just now getting around to doing that and the water pump. I wanted to do it when i swapped the motor out but was being rushed and had my Uncle busting my balls and looking over my shoulder the whole time.

I am going to be putting the cam seals in on tuesday, has anyone heard of putting grease in the slot the seal sits in? I read something about it somewhere else but it just didn't seem right to me for some reason, I would think either a small amount of engine oil or nothing at all.
I grease new seals all the time. Works great and I think the fsm does say to do so.
Now that I think of it I think I just grease the inside of the seal and not the outside since the inside is the part that sees friction from the moving part its sealing against.
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I just used some assembly lube, when I build up the other EJ22T I will go precisely by the book...except maybe the crank pulley bolt lol
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Was that a brand new CV axle?
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it was, I believe it was actually new and not a reman
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