I hate diesels in the Winter

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I hate diesels in the Winter

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The past two days I have been trying to start the Mercedes, and it won't start. I hate that thing in the winter, mostly because it is the hardest thing to start. I am hoping to get it stated in the next few days so I can park it in the garage and do some work to it so I can sell it soon :D
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Post by Yukonart »

Just get some help from a friend and roll the ole girl in there. 8)
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I could push it into the Garage, or I can go to the industrial battery store where I bought my battery, and get a new one under warranty. I am sure I have another bad battery, but I doubt the car will start in -4 degrees...
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Post by Dr Nick »

This may be a daft question, but when were the glowplugs last replaced? In my diesel experience (204k miles in a diesel Peugeot) these make the biggest difference to starting from cold...
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The glow plugs are fine, it's just a bad battery most likely...
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Post by vrg3 »

That's a good point. The early W123s used a series configuration for the glow plugs, too, so one bad plug could ruin it for everyone.

123c - Maybe another daft question, but do you have a block heater that you're using?
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You think it's just a bad battery? Have you tried jump-starting it then?
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I am very sure it's a bad battery
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Post by 123c »

I might get the engine started tomorrow, when the temp will be near 40, and maybe after I get a chance to replace the battery.
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Post by ciper »

You know that newer ones dont have glow plugs at all? They modify the timing based on temperature to increase the air pressure before the fuel is injected.
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ciper wrote:You know that newer ones dont have glow plugs at all? They modify the timing based on temperature to increase the air pressure before the fuel is injected.
Yes, I knew that. I am stuck with the old fashioned loop style glow plugs. I can retrofit the car with the newer style pin type glow plugs for a less than $200.
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I took my battery into the battery shop today, and the guy there told me that it is probally ok, but very low on charge, and that's why I can't get it charged. I am going back in a few hours and he will test it again, and see if it is bad. Then I should get the MB started again...
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Post by ciper »

How old is the alternator? Maybe its output is below what is needed to charge the battery?
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The battery is just fine, so it should start later today. The guy at the shop told me to bring the car buy once I get it started, and he would do an electrical check on it for free...
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I got it started, and it runs great :D
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