Timing Belt Replacement Please Help!!

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Timing Belt Replacement Please Help!!

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I've been replacing my timing belt on my 92 legacy turbo wagon. I have the two notches on the camshaft pulleys lined up with the notches on the cover and the white paint from the belt and the crank shaft is lined up as well, with piston 1 at tdc, but when ever I try to start the thing it wont turn over... Am i missing something? Thanks for any advise or tips
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The car won't even crank over? If you got the timing wrong, your car would still turn over regardless.

When you turn the key, do you have power to accessories? If you do have power, what happens when you turn the key?
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You more than likely have the timing marks incorrect. There are marks on the front and back of the crank gear. You need to use the marks on the back of the crank gear. You do not need to have the #1 cylinder at TDC, just line the marks up and you'll be fine.

Here are pictures from an old timing belt job which show the correct marks.

http://www.main.experiencetherave.com/s ... imingbelt/
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I do have power to accessories when I put the key in and when I turn the key it cranks but does not turn over. You can smell fuel and when we would pull out a spark plug it was wet with fuel. I'm going to try lining everything up one more time and if that doesn't work I believe something else is at play. Maybe a bad coil pack? Also do the arrows on the cam pulleys have any relevant meaning?
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Turning over and cranking are the same thing. You are turning over, what you are not getting is ignition. Two different things.

I think if you re-do timing and double check, you will get spark. Let us know once you've double checked everything. Timing off by a couple teeth on the cam/crank will disable spark.
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The arrows may relate to cam/piston orientation, but do not matter for timing belt alignment.
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After putting in another few hours today trying to line up everything still nothing.. I had both notches lined up the best we could get it (one cam was directly lined up while the other was maybe off by half a notch and the crank shaft was dead on) but still no ignition. I'm believe something else is effecting the lack of ignition.
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Any chance you took some pictures of the belt & cam pullies/crank gear alignment so we could see how they're aligned?
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Andy I think you might be lining up on the wrong notches like Chris and I did on his, then Kessler came and put it on right ones and started right up
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Yeah take some pictures. I think you might be lining up the wrong ones too.
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Yep you guys were right I just a noob lol. I was lining up the arrow on the crank pulley instead of the dash... After moving that over it fired right up and runs great! Thank you guys
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That's a common mistake. Glad you got it figured out.
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How much cranking did you do? check your oil and smell the end of the dipstick. Too much cranking could get alot of fuel in the cylinder and saturate the oil some basically breaking it down.

Just something to think of.
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My oil always smelled like fuel in my TW, with both the ej22t and ej20g. I just thought that's how they are...
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