Buzzing clicking from behind cluster when starting
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Buzzing clicking from behind cluster when starting
Sometimes when I go to start my car, I get a buzzing or clicking that sounds like a relay going crazy behind the instrument cluster. This only happens when the ignition is in the "start" position (position 3). Any ideas what might be causing this ?
Re: Buzzing clicking from behind cluster when starting
Does the engine start when the key is in the "start" position?
It's probably one of the relays. the only other thing I could think of would be the seat belt chime behind the gauge cluster. Do you get the noise whether the door is open or closed?
It's probably one of the relays. the only other thing I could think of would be the seat belt chime behind the gauge cluster. Do you get the noise whether the door is open or closed?
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Re: Buzzing clicking from behind cluster when starting
I don't get the noise when the door is open or closed and no seat belt chime; which isn't a bad thing. It sounds like a relay going nuts. When the relay is going nuts the starter won't engage at all. But, if I cycle they key, it ALWAYS engages the starter on the second or third key cycle and the engine starts no problem. But, it's just annoying and it has been going on for awhile and I figure I better try to sort it before whatever relay is going bananas calls it quits completely. A schematic of the starter circuit would be helpful. I don't have a factory service manual. wish I did though. If anyone knows how I could get one, other than waiting for one to appear on ebay.
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Re: Buzzing clicking from behind cluster when starting
Not for sure, but the starter relay is under the dash and it sort of sounds like that could be the issue.
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Re: Buzzing clicking from behind cluster when starting
chrisshara wrote:A schematic of the starter circuit would be helpful. I don't have a factory service manual. wish I did though. If anyone knows how I could get one, other than waiting for one to appear on ebay.
You can thank Josh(Legacy777) for this, here is a link to a page where you can d/l the FSM:
http://bbs.legacycentral.org/viewtopic.php?t=14485
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Re: Buzzing clicking from behind cluster when starting
mine is a MT and if I don't have the clutch in all the way it makes that similar sounds. I just try the clutch again down farther and no buzz and car starts
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Re: Buzzing clicking from behind cluster when starting
chrisshara wrote:I don't get the noise when the door is open or closed and no seat belt chime; which isn't a bad thing. It sounds like a relay going nuts. When the relay is going nuts the starter won't engage at all. But, if I cycle they key, it ALWAYS engages the starter on the second or third key cycle and the engine starts no problem. But, it's just annoying and it has been going on for awhile and I figure I better try to sort it before whatever relay is going bananas calls it quits completely. A schematic of the starter circuit would be helpful. I don't have a factory service manual. wish I did though. If anyone knows how I could get one, other than waiting for one to appear on ebay.
So there really isn't any relay behind the instrument cluster, but what there is behind the cluster is the speaker/noise maker for the seat belt and key chime when the driver's door is open. I wonder if that is what's making the noise.
I suspect the starting issue is something unrelated to the sound. Any chance you can take a video of the noise and post it on youtube?
You can see the noise maker in these pictures.
http://main.experiencetherave.com/subar ... combmeter/
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Re: Buzzing clicking from behind cluster when starting
The other thing I thought of was that there may be a ground issue that may be causing the buzzer not to work or sound like it does. Unfortunately, pulling the gauge cluster out to inspect and test things is about the only way you'll be able to troubleshoot further.
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Re: Buzzing clicking from behind cluster when starting
This noise only happens when the ignition switch is in position #3. This sound has something to do with the starter circuit. Can anyone provide a schematic of the starter circuit ?
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Re: Buzzing clicking from behind cluster when starting
chrisshara wrote:This noise only happens when the ignition switch is in position #3. This sound has something to do with the starter circuit. Can anyone provide a schematic of the starter circuit ?
See dankberries' post about where to find factory service diagrams/schematics.
dankberries wrote:chrisshara wrote:A schematic of the starter circuit would be helpful. I don't have a factory service manual. wish I did though. If anyone knows how I could get one, other than waiting for one to appear on ebay.
You can thank Josh(Legacy777) for this, here is a link to a page where you can d/l the FSM:
http://bbs.legacycentral.org/viewtopic.php?t=14485
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