Production number and reading the VIN

BAC5.2 · Post by **BAC5.2** » Thu Mar 11, 2004 10:43 pm

I've been trying to figure out what the production number of my 94 is, but I can't find anything underhood or on any of the plates that mentions it.

I was wondering if the last 5 numbers of the VIN had to do with the production number?

Seems reasonable, but I'm not positive.

Any insight?

My car was made in 04/93. The last 5 numbers are 00022. Any clues?

vrg3 · Post by **vrg3** » Thu Mar 11, 2004 10:44 pm

http://www.main.experiencetherave.com:8 ... decode.jpg

BAC5.2 · Post by **BAC5.2** » Thu Mar 11, 2004 10:54 pm

So the VIN has nothing to do with the production number, where can I find the production number?

vrg3 · Post by **vrg3** » Thu Mar 11, 2004 11:08 pm

I think the "sequential number" is the production number, meaning your car was 22nd off the line!

BAC5.2 · Post by **BAC5.2** » Thu Mar 11, 2004 11:17 pm

Woah! I was thinking that, but just wanted to be sure! 22nd off the line eh? Not the last one, but it's pretty damn cool to be one of the first

The reason the "sequential number" confused me was the 610001 nonsense. My number is 600022.

My full VIN is JF1 BC673X RG600022

I think I found my new license plate

vrg3 · Post by **vrg3** » Thu Mar 11, 2004 11:24 pm

Oh, hm. I dunno. Your VIN doesn't seem to fit with that chart. Maybe that chart was published before your car was built. I still think your car was number 22 of its particular series.

BAC5.2 · Post by **BAC5.2** » Thu Mar 11, 2004 11:31 pm

The only thing that doesn't seem to fit is the two stop tags.

I have a hard time believeing that the production number isn't 22 based on the VIN. If the production number is independent of the VIN, then I don't know where you'd find it.

I checked every tag I could find and none of them mentioned the production number.

Post by **DLC** » Fri Mar 12, 2004 12:51 am

If the production number idea holds, mine was the 263rd Touring Wagon made as of 8/92, which sounds plausible. My stop is 2.

I'd like to hear some more sequential number examples.

My code holds up pretty well, it's a "BJ673", meaning it's a wagon, 2.2L, and passive/SRS-equipped. The "check digit" is a 6, and the year is "P", for a 93. "H" matches for full-time 4AT and FHI once again.

Fun stuff, this.

vrg3 · Post by **vrg3** » Fri Mar 12, 2004 12:59 am

I don't think it differentiates between turbos and non-turbos. Your wagon could be the 2,632nd wagon, right?

evolutionmovement · Post by **evolutionmovement** » Fri Mar 12, 2004 1:28 am

Mine's completely confusing, then. The first half of my VIN is accurate - 1990 L wagon, fwd 5MT, Japan, etc. but the vehicle identification section on the end says that it was built in Indiana (SIA - Subaru-Isuzu Auto) after 1994.

JF1BJ632XLB941086

Steve

BAC5.2 · Post by **BAC5.2** » Fri Mar 12, 2004 2:04 am

vrg3 wrote:I don't think it differentiates between turbos and non-turbos. Your wagon could be the 2,632nd wagon, right?

Yea, the model code.

L, LS, or Turbo (dictated by a 3, 5 or 7)

My VIN decodes perfectly.

Save the sequential number.

Japan. Sedan. TURBO (they capitalize). With Passive Restraint and SRS. 1994. Full time 4WD 5MT, Japan. Sequential number doesn't match anything they list (600022). My check digit is X.

I think the Sequential number on that picture is wrong. As you can see, mine is 600022 which matches none of the criteria for what they list.

DLC - The last 2 isn't a stop code I don't think. I think the stop code's aren't printed on the plates. If you look at the VIN on the firewall, you'll see a bracket on either side which are likely to be considered the stop codes. I'm not sure though, if the stop is 2, then I have the 2nd sedan to roll off the line in 94. If the stop isn't a 2, were there really 2,632 Touring Wagons produced in 93?

Edit: My manufacture date validates the possible 22nd car to roll off the line. 04/93 was the start of the MY94 production year, IIRC.

magicmike · Post by **magicmike** » Fri Mar 12, 2004 4:20 am

This has been discussed before.

http://bbs.legacycentral.org/viewtopic. ... hlight=vin

In there someone says that the turbo's and the non-turbos share numbers.

-Mike

THAWA · Post by **THAWA** » Fri Mar 12, 2004 5:36 am

has the 5853'rd legacy made

hurray for me

also does anyone elses vin start with jf2? I dont like being a MPV alone

BAC5.2 · Post by **BAC5.2** » Fri Mar 12, 2004 5:41 am

How is your car a MPV? You have a N/A sedan right?

THAWA · Post by **THAWA** » Fri Mar 12, 2004 5:51 am

correct, my vin is also jf2 ... whic according to that [ic makes it an mpv

BAC5.2 · Post by **BAC5.2** » Fri Mar 12, 2004 6:01 am

Weird. I don't think that picture is to correct. The designation number specifically, and now the beginning numbers.

If your N/A sedan shows up as an MPV, then why doesn't my turbo sedan?

Post by **Legacy777** » Fri Mar 12, 2004 4:11 pm

ok I just found something weird......I was checking the vin from the info the state has for my car and according the vin in their records, my car should be AWD......however I could have swore i checked the VIN with what's in the window and everything checked out......hmmm...will have to double check when i get home.

Matt Monson · Post by **Matt Monson** » Fri Mar 12, 2004 5:18 pm

THAWA wrote:has the 5853'rd legacy made hurray for me

also does anyone elses vin start with jf2? I dont like being a MPV alone

You are not an MPV alone, but my vin doesn't start with jf2. JF means manufacturer and make (Fuji/Subaru). The 2 designates it as a mulitpurpose passenger vehicle, a 1 designates just a passenger vehicle. I am guessing that at some point how they defined that changed, and thus similar cars (NA and Turbo sedans) might get different designations

My vin is:
454 BJ63C4 L6903618 I know it is MPV because it is stamped that under the vin very clearly on the doorjam.

As for the sequential number (last 7 digits) the first two only indicate if it is a wagon or a sedan. The last seven indicate your production number on the line, and as has been mentioned, that number blends turbo and NA cars and doesn't count just one or the other. My car was made in 06/90, BTW...

boostjunkie · Post by **boostjunkie** » Fri Mar 12, 2004 5:23 pm

I've got a fast mpv! jf2 also.

Number 7346.

BAC5.2 · Post by **BAC5.2** » Fri Mar 12, 2004 5:41 pm

So it does blend Turbo and N/A.

Well, there's a good chance I have the first turbo sedan made for 94.

magicmike · Post by **magicmike** » Fri Mar 12, 2004 5:49 pm

I probably have the first turbo auto wagon of 94'

-Mike

Matt Monson · Post by **Matt Monson** » Sat Mar 13, 2004 3:26 am

BAC5.2 wrote:So it does blend Turbo and N/A.

Well, there's a good chance I have the first turbo sedan made for 94.

Actually my logic says you likely have the 22nd turbo sedan of '94. Doesn't it stand to reason that they would do the more limited production vehicle first off the line to get them out of the way? Why on earth would they make 21 na sedans and then switch to the turbos?

BAC5.2 · Post by **BAC5.2** » Sat Mar 13, 2004 7:39 pm

Matt Monson wrote:Doesn't it stand to reason that they would do the more limited production vehicle first off the line to get them out of the way? Why on earth would they make 21 na sedans and then switch to the turbos?

I don't know, I didn't build the cars.

evolutionmovement · Post by **evolutionmovement** » Sat Mar 13, 2004 8:07 pm

It would depend upon their production process. Were the cars built to order or by forecast? If the low production numbers often quoted are correct, I would guess they were built to dealer order. Production would also depend on their assembly line flexibility as some plants would be incapable of the seamless or near seamless transition from one model to another down the same line. Q/A would also be a consideration as well as set up time in an inflexible plant. Most modern auto plants have this flexibility, but I don't know about the Fuji plant that far back, so Matt may be correct. Then again, they may go by monthly forecasts, say, and would build their allotment at, say, the beginning of each month (or end of previous). I would guess its most likely they were built in batches according to some schedule (monthly, quarterly, etc.). If we could get a hold of production dates and sequence numbers, we could probably figure it out, but since getting just basic production quantities are tough enough, I don't think that's going to happen.

Steve

BAC5.2 · Post by **BAC5.2** » Sat Mar 13, 2004 8:23 pm

Then I have the first 94 Turbo Sedan on this board.

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Production number and reading the VIN

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