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Has anyone fitted a front mount intercooler whilst still retaining the factory intake (airbox and all).
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it can be done but the tubes will be very long and lots of curves. my legacy has a front mount intercooler but i took it way out of porportion. but it is the best set up you can do, from the turbo there is only one 90degre elbow. tubes go in the intercooler, tubes go out of the intercooler to the throttle body, where there is a slight 45 or just a bit more so it lines up perfect. its works very very very well but i had to get rid of abs unit and then the battery and washer tank.
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Post by NuwanD »

how did you get rid of the abs unit? make new lines?etc..

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Post by BAC5.2 »

I was wondering the same thing. If possible, I'd like to relocate the ABS unit. That doesn't seem like a possibility, so I think I'll stick with a TMIC or AWIC so I can retain the ABS (since it doesn't seem to be to intrusive).
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Post by vrg3 »

There isn't anything fundamentally difficult about relocating the ABS unit. You just need to get line and fittings to route to where the unit ends up. I don't think you'll find a nice place to mount it though.

As for getting rid of it, I think all you need to do is tee off each of the two inlets to connect them to the two outlets. The fittings are all M10x1.0mm inverted flares, at least on the regular (non-2E) Nippon unit.
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Post by NICO »

its what vrg3 siad but my dad had a 1960 fiat part that fit right in its place its like a T for brake lines and it had the same threds, so it was like a piece of cake. just bend the lines in a nice spot make sure you dont brake them when you bend them or you will run in to problems.
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Post by NuwanD »

good stuff, i was thinking about doing it that way but wasn't sure... i've been waiting to ditch that abs unit since i got the car... never used it and i figure it weighs a good chunk as well

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Post by vrg3 »

Yeah, they're pretty heavy indeed.

When you do the teeing off, be sure to maintain the dual-diagonal independent circuit thing; tee one inlet to the LF and RR outlets, and the other inlet to the RF and LR outlets.
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Post by NuwanD »

yep, good point.... now that i think about it, i could also install a brake bias controller while i'm there... of course that means doing a rear only and front only circuit setup... ideas ideas :D
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Post by BAC5.2 »

Ideally, it would be in the trunk. I don't want to have to deal with the excess fluid or routing of hardlines. So I'll just leave it, lol. It doesn't seem to be intrusive, but I'll leave it until I have to remove it (if I go FMIC, which I probably wont, lol)

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Post by NICO »

the abs system is junk and your right it is heavy, in the winter the light all ways comes on my car stops better with out abs.
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Post by NuwanD »

sorry bout the off topic there.... anyways maybe this pic can help... have no idea whos car it is but there seems to be enough room to keep the stock airbox and abs unit with this piping

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That is rsstiboy's car.
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Post by ciper »

And it doesnt have ABS.
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Post by rsstiboy »

it would be hard to get it past the ABS, it could be done by cutting a hole before the abs and running the piping underneath the unit, just means a few more curves in the piping. who needs ABS anyway! :lol:
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Post by NICO »

haahhah true say
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Post by rsstiboy »

check this one out
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Wahoo! know what I'm doing now
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Post by rsstiboy »

what? :shock: putting a coke bottle in as your overflow tank? :shock:
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Post by NICO »

besides the 7up bottle, but you got to do what you got to do that is a nice clean set up, and might i add mean set up, looks very nice
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where has the maf sensor gone in the above picture also what intake is this, it looks cool and I havn't seen one like this in the uk
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Post by vrg3 »

I think that car is using aftermarket engine management that doesn't use a MAF sensor.
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Post by rsstiboy »

he's using microtech
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Post by omahasubaru »

I'd have to see how the Legacy compares to the Impreza (GC/GF) but if you'd be willing to relocate your battery you 'should' be able to route your inlet and outlet to a FMIC both on the drivers side leaving your stock intake piping.

Just route your post turbo piping under the TB and around to the I/C (keeping it low) then route your post I/C piping on top of that back to the TB.

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Post by MY92 »

omahasubaru wrote:I'd have to see how the Legacy compares to the Impreza (GC/GF) but if you'd be willing to relocate your battery you 'should' be able to route your inlet and outlet to a FMIC both on the drivers side leaving your stock intake piping.

Just route your post turbo piping under the TB and around to the I/C (keeping it low) then route your post I/C piping on top of that back to the TB.

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That is probably the way to do the longest piping.
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