How much power can i expect from my 16G

[dzx]

Does anyone know about how much power a 16G puts out on the 2.2L engine? I'm about to get mine installed and kinda curious if its gonna make a big difference. Also what is a good boost level to run it at after its broken in?

[legacy92ej22t]

It completely depends on your other mods, could you list them?

You will notice a huge difference at any boost level over 11 psi. The VF11 can't support more then 10-11 psi over 4800 rpm while the 16G pulls 16 psi all the way to redline. Your power will be in a different part of the rpm band though. Instead of all your power being down low, like the VF11, it's up high. It will really start to come on at 3200 rpm and just get better as the RPM's rise. The 16G pushes a lot more CFM at the same psi too. Because of this, the engine will feel more solid with improved throttle response, and even have better throttle response when off boost too.

Lets hear that mod list.

[JasonGrahn]

http://www.turbofast.com.au/tfcalc.html

rtfm.

[dzx]

here is a list of engine mods:
Intake
3" stainless steel catless exhaust
3" Invidia Downpipe
18x8x3 core spearco fmic
diamond coil pack
MSD DIS-2 ignition system
Zex Turbo/Nitrous spark plugs
Ported 16G from deadbolt
walbro 255 fuel pump

Drivetrain upgrades: (if this helps)
Fidanza lightweight flywheel
4.11 2.5 RS transmission
exedy stage 1 clutch

[legacy92ej22t]

Do you have a FCD? Without one you'll have to keep boost below 13 psi (at sea level).

Assuming you do have a FCD, I'd say that you could run 16 psi daily and 18 psi for short runs. You could maybe get away with 18 psi daily but I'd upgrade you FPR. 16 psi on your mods will give you about 280-290 chp, 18 psi will give you 300-310 chp( this is putting a HUGE strain on the the stock injectors though). Anything above that and I think you need bigger injectors and stand alone engine management.

Hope that helps.

[BAC5.2]

Do you have pictures of the FMIC? Install write up? Cost estimate?

[dzx]

For the engine management, im looking at kelley's ecu, might pick one up in the next couple of months. Same with injectors, also i might do an alcohol/water injection system since 91 octane is pretty much all we have around here. I'll look into a RRFPR. I was planning on making the VRG3 FCD when i have time. As for the write up and installation of everything, i havent had it done yet cause im trying to find another vehicle to drive while mine is in the shop to get me to school and work. I'll probably borrow my uncle's old landcruiser or chevy luv pickup. When it's done i'll take pictures tho. Since the 90 degree inlet on the turbo is cast, we decided to just run the piping the other way. As for cost, i dont think you really want to know I have the estimate somewhere, they are gonna go with a new coolant overflow tank, relocate the charcoal canister, move the battery a little bit with longer wires, cut the bumper beam to allow more airflow. What kind of transmission do you have in your car matt? There are some pics of some of the uninstalled items on page two of my cardomain page. I'll put up a pic of the intercooler in a little bit since its in the back seat of my car. http://members.cardomain.com/damienx I would install the turbo myself but the plastic piece that goes to the manifold wont fit i don't think. Anybody have some suggestions for a piece to go from the turbo to the manifold so i can install it myself and save about 250 dollars?

[BAC5.2]

I just want to see if the 18x8x3" IC is going to fit. 3" seems pretty friggin deep.

18" also seems fairly short. Do you have a link to where you bought it from?

[dzx]

I guess the core is 17" it turns out to be 23" with the endtanks. and since my last post was long somebody might have missed what i was asking, does anyone know of something i can use temporarily for the turbo to intake manifold piece so i can install my 16G turbo myself and save the money. $250 is a lot of money for something soo simple. Kinda like a brake job. Go to someplace and have them do it and they rob you blind, do it yourself and its about 40 dollars with free replacements for life if you get them from autozone. Here is where i picked up the intercooler, i doubt its a genuine spearco but it is a bar and plate design. The guy i bought it from bought it a couple weeks before from a guy on ebay named boostcoolers

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... AMEWA%3AIT

[BAC5.2]

Just go to Autozone and look through their radiator hoses, use which ever looks like it would work.

Don't know if it's actually a Spearco or not. Here's a pic of my buddies car (pre-purchase) with a spearco FMIC...

[legacy92ej22t]

and since my last post was long somebody might have missed what i was asking, does anyone know of something i can use temporarily for the turbo to intake manifold piece so i can install my 16G turbo myself and save the money. $250 is a lot of money for something soo simple.

I wouldn't install the 16G until you have an intercooler. If you do/have to then I wouldn't boost over 9 psi (wastegate boost), even after the first 100 miles at 5 psi, until you have an intercooler installed. Then still do 250 miles at 11-12 psi before cranking it up.

If you're going to do it even withouit an IC, then just go to an auto parts store and get creative. You'll need at least 1 pipe reducer because the compressor outlet on the 16G is 1 7/8" OD and IIRC the TB is 2 3/4" OD. Or you could just hack the end off the stock black turbo to TB piece back by the turbo. Then use a piece of heater hose to attach the compressor outlet to it. Just a thought. What you're attempting, 16G install without a intercooler, hasn't ever been done before, AFAIK, so you'll have to fab it yourself and I doubt anyone is going to know a part # for a specific hose to fit your needs or anything unfortunately. I'm sure you can rig it somehow until you get the FMIC plumbed in though.

[vrg3]

It may be possible to reclock the TD05-16G to line up with the stock turbo-to-throttle pipe. mreese did it to the TD04, after all.

I found that a lower radiator hose for a 1992 Jaguar XJ6 without the block heater seemed to fit well over the stock compressor outlet and had a couple of potentially useful bends in it.

[dzx]

thanks for the help, i was only planning on boosting at wastegate pressure anyway until i got the I/C installed. I certainly wasn't planning on turning it up to 16 or 18 psi right away lol. I'll go check out autozone.