After the accident, ive come to the realization that this sedan is soaking up too much $$$. Just to get it to look good again will cost over $1,000. Ive sourced a '91 LSi Wagon, and I wanna take the EJ22T, 5spd, Exhaust and stuff it into this LSi. That would be my dream wagon.
Ive gotten different story's from "Bolts right in" to "Swap everything from fuel lines to engine harness"
I think Josh just got done with a swap like this, has anyone else done it? What am i faced with as far as engine management? Im mechanicly enclined, but electronicly stupid. Expecially when it comes to MPFI & Turbo Management.
Any insight would be greatly appreciated, thanks
-Brian
Hmm, since your Turbo hood is still in decent condition, you should use it as a mold for a custom hood.
A good shop could fab you a carbon fiber hood, or you could even just lay it in fiberglass yourself.
One of these days, I'll be brave, and make a fiberglass hood, or have my hood cast in Carbon Fiber. Our hoods are SO heavy as it sits, there's a lot of weight to be saved.
And you could paint it to match (I'd DEFINATELY paint a carbon fiber hood. Unless it's black, raw carbon hoods look ugly).
Search back for MK's threads about his EJ22T swap.
It will bolt right in, but you need some things from the 92 in addition to the engine, like:
The sensor and solenoids on the passenger side strut tower.
The crossmember and exhaust components.
The MAF sensor, if the 91 is a 4EAT.
The ECU.
The fuel pump.
That's not an exhaustive list, but it's a start.
You're keeping the entire engine together (heads, manifolds, etc), right? So you'll already have the turbo fuel rails and injectors.
The wiring itself is pretty easy. You do not need to swap the entire turbo harness into the non-turbo car. You actually want to swap the non-turbo engine harness (the harness attached to the intake manifold) onto the turbo engine, and then just add a few wires and switch a couple wires. Look for a thread called "Problems wiring the swap" by MK for the details.
"Just reading vrg3's convoluted, information-packed posts made me feel better all over again." -- subyluvr2212
THanks VRG. I will have my 92 as a parts car, so everything will go across. And Im most definatly keeping my exhaust. Just hope it bolts up the same.
Im not worried about my hood. I want to get a very small scoop to put over the turbo, and retain the chiminey. Other than that, the standard hood will do.
I found the car today i think. Its a '91 LSi wagon with some underbody damage (unseen to the naked eye). Grey and faded paint. Perfect grocery getter
vrg3 wrote:
The wiring itself is pretty easy. You do not need to swap the entire turbo harness into the non-turbo car. You actually want to swap the non-turbo engine harness (the harness attached to the intake manifold) onto the turbo engine, and then just add a few wires and switch a couple wires. Look for a thread called "Problems wiring the swap" by MK for the details.
What you will want to do is get the wires needed for the boost solenoid, pressure sensor, etc (basically the whole sensor cluster from the passenger strut tower) from the turbo harness. It should take you about 3-4 hours to remover the dash, heater and pull the harness out of the chassis and then another 4+ to strip them out of the turbo harness. You only need the main bulkhead harness, not the engine harness that runs down the driver's side fender. As VRG mentioned, you can switch the NA engine harness over to the turbo engine and just plug it in.
The only thing you will need to do to switch ECU's is plug in those wires from the Boost S/pressure S and to switch the cam angle sensor and crank angle sensor wires on the ECU. For some strange reason Subaru reversed the placement of these two wires between the NA and Turbo cars. Otherwise, the wiring is identical.
Can you do me a favour? I found that the 17.5" turbo radiator would not fit in my '90 wagon. Will you measure you '91's chassis and see if the frame sits lower and could accomodate the turbo radiator? You will want to use this radiator if you can as it will cool slightly better than the NA one, and it will already be pulled out when you pull the engines...
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Yeah, if I do the swap i'll definatly be using my radiator. Not only cause its bigger, but I just spent $230 for a brand new radiator not more than 2 weeks ago. So yeah, its going with the conversion.
I think im leaning more toward purchasing a '92 Turbo Wagon, and doing a 5spd swap instead of a whole EJ22T swap. Might be alot easier, and i already found a buyer for my current EJ22T so that will help purchase the Wagon if I can find one.
Thanks for all the info guys... this is much apreciated. Has answered pretty much every question ive had.
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TheSubaruJunkie wrote:Yeah, if I do the swap i'll definatly be using my radiator. Not only cause its bigger, but I just spent $230 for a brand new radiator not more than 2 weeks ago.
-Brian
But will it fit was my question!
1974 Porsche 914 Cam Am Limted Edition AKA the Bumble Bee
1973 Porsche 914 2.0 l -Suby swap pending
1968 Porsche 911t survivor 47k original miles
2000 2.5RS daily driver.
1999 2.5RS w/ 50+ extra whp
Suby Hai!
Jesus man! You don't get it, I want to know so that we can provide this information to future swappers. Is it so hard to go out to your car with a tape measure and spend five minutes for the good of the board members?
1974 Porsche 914 Cam Am Limted Edition AKA the Bumble Bee
1973 Porsche 914 2.0 l -Suby swap pending
1968 Porsche 911t survivor 47k original miles
2000 2.5RS daily driver.
1999 2.5RS w/ 50+ extra whp
Suby Hai!
Damn dude... calm down. if its demensions you want, just goto www.radiators.com and look up a EJ22T radiator. They provide you with the WxHxL in dementions.
I dont have an LSi wagon to compare with. I do have the old radiator of mine in my garage, and if it really means that much to you I can go take measurements.
TheSubaruJunkie wrote:Damn dude... calm down. if its demensions you want, just goto www.radiators.com and look up a EJ22T radiator. They provide you with the WxHxL in dementions.
I dont have an LSi wagon to compare with. I do have the old radiator of mine in my garage, and if it really means that much to you I can go take measurements.
But back to the frikken topic!!!! Thank you.
-Brian
Dude,
I am not pissed, just annoyed that you took three posts to say that you can't take the measurements. Was it so hard to just say that you didn't have the car handy?.Instead you wanted to play the smartass and say "i'll make it fit" I will repeat since you seem really dense: I have both radiators! I have measured both radiators. I was looking for the dimensions of the engine bay. thanks for nothing but a crummy attitude. Generally we try and help each other around here but hey, if you don't want to help out the group, that's your deal. Now I will leave and let you return to your precious little thread...
1974 Porsche 914 Cam Am Limted Edition AKA the Bumble Bee
1973 Porsche 914 2.0 l -Suby swap pending
1968 Porsche 911t survivor 47k original miles
2000 2.5RS daily driver.
1999 2.5RS w/ 50+ extra whp
Suby Hai!
If you paid any attention at all, you would have realized I didnt have the car in my possession. But still, you insist that i go out and measure the engine bay of a car i dont even have. Finally had to get an attitude to get you to understand.
So now that we're on the same level, lets let bygones be bygones and get back to the subject.
I doubt im going to try the conversion. I'd hate to take a good running EJ22T and butcher a good running LSi to try to frankenstein something. I think i'll just sell off my EJ22T as parts, and use the $$$ to get a straight Legacy.
Matt.... dont they have junkyards there? Maybe there's an L there for you to measure. And if I really wanted to be a smartass, i would have been ;P
Jesus man! You don't get it, I want to know so that we can provide this information to future swappers. Is it so hard to go out to your car with a tape measure and spend five minutes for the good of the board members? 
